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Old 02-12-2012, 06:21 PM   #1
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Xenon flat fender flares

I looking at Xenon flat fender flares to put on my 2004 tj sport. I currently have no lift and 31x1050 r 15 fankon ziex st on Ravin 15x8 wheels with no rubbing issues.
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Xenon 9190 - Xenon 4" Flat Panel Flare Kit in Black for 97-06 Jeep® Wrangler TJ & Unlimited - Quadratec
The question I have is could I go to 32x1150 r 15 with the added clearance of these flares? would I need wheel spacers or new wheels with less backspacing?
or should I just stick with 31x1050 r 15s? no matter what I will be going with a more aggressive all terrain tire. I don't plan on lifting my jeep for a while if at all.

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Old 02-12-2012, 11:10 PM   #3
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2" bb and you'll be good
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Ok I'm really surprised by lack of replies to this thread. I think I'll stay with 31s, now I am looking at black rock desperadoes. I would still like to know how much extra clearance these flares will give me? Like i said above I have no issues with 31s now but those are street tires. When I go to an all terrain tire that might change. Right now my stock wheels have 5.5 inch of back spacing. The black rock wheels have 4 inches of backspacing. I'm not sure if I am ever going to lift my jeep, but the largest tire I can get and still be able to flex a little.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:38 PM   #5
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I've got 6" flat xenon flares in the rear with tube fenders in the front...

currently running 32x11.5's and with my pocket flares they looked great...with the new flat rears and my new tube fronts i'm currently in the mkt for a set of 35's (as well as the other added crap to run them)

I'd definitely recommend you going with 32's
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I've got 6" flat xenon flares in the rear with tube fenders in the front...

currently running 32x11.5's and with my pocket flares they looked great...with the new flat rears and my new tube fronts i'm currently in the mkt for a set of 35's (as well as the other added crap to run them)

I'd definitely recommend you going with 32's
So you are running 32x11.5s on a non lifted jeep with no issues? Sweet do you have a pic of this setup? The black rock wheels I want are a 8.5 inch wide rims with 4 inches of back spacing. With these wheels I could go with 32s without turning radius problems, just not sure about up and down, hence the reason for higher flares.
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Oh, sorry lol, must have read over that part...i've got about 5 inches of lift, tube fenders in front, and flat rear flares...needless to say my 32's look tiny. I'm going to 35's like i mentioned in my post above...

heres how mine currently sits with the 32's



On a stock height TJ...i'd say yes you could throw 32's on there without issue as long as you ran the new wheel with enough backspacing. I could be wrong though and you may hit at full flex, but if you dont do a ton of wheeling, then you'd be fine.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:13 PM   #8
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I've got the 33x12.50x15 Goodyear Duratracs (they actually measure 32x11.50x15) and I've got the Skyjacker 2.25" BBL with Hydro shocks kit. you might be ok if you stayed on the street with the flat fenders with-out a lift. but you'll be wishing you had a lift of some sort when you hit the dirt roads and such. click the pic to enlarge it.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:21 PM   #9
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Here's the difference between the BFG T/A KOs 30x9.50x15 that I had b4, and the duratracs that I have now. that's before the lift kit was installed
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I'll probably stick with 31s for now. I'm not totally against a lifted jeep. I just want to do it right the first time, and since I don't have the money for that I'll just have to wait a while. Wheels and tires first, fender flares second, a good winch third , and finally way down the road a proper Suspension lift, since that leads to even more spending that will be way down the road.
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So you are running 32x11.5s on a non lifted jeep with no issues? Sweet do you have a pic of this setup? The black rock wheels I want are a 8.5 inch wide rims with 4 inches of back spacing. With these wheels I could go with 32s without turning radius problems, just not sure about up and down, hence the reason for higher flares.
with flatties with can run 35's with no lift... you shouldnt though... if you do the flatty flares and 1" BL or a 2" bb youll be good.
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Here's the difference between the BFG T/A KOs 30x9.50x15 that I had b4, and the duratracs that I have now. that's before the lift kit was installed
are those 33''?
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Here's my TJ. Not Xenon flats, instead I cut my stock ones. I'm running 33s with a 2" Budget Boost, but was running the 33s b4 the lift with no rubbing and did mild off roading, so you should be fine with 32s and flat flares!

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Here's my TJ. Not Xenon flats, instead I cut my stock ones. I'm running 33s with a 2" Budget Boost, but was running the 33s b4 the lift with no rubbing and did mild off roading, so you should be fine with 32s and flat flares!

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PO trimmed my rears.... I dont like it... when it rains the rears spray nasty dirty street water and salt all over the sides....
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PO trimmed my rears.... I dont like it... when it rains the rears spray nasty dirty street water and salt all over the sides....
Yea mine do that just cause the tires are so wide. But I don't have to worry about salt. I've thought about buying stock rubi flares and trimming them. I like the look, I took time doing mine then added a nice trim to clean the edges...
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PO trimmed my rears.... I dont like it... when it rains the rears spray nasty dirty street water and salt all over the sides....
You should see mine with tube fenders lol

gonna be even worse with my 35x12.5's!
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I have the Bushwacker Flat Fenders and love them...

Jeep Flat Panel Style Fender Flares for Jeep wrangler TJ & Unlimited TJL by Bushwacker

About the same price too... And they are paintable also.
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are those 33''?
Yes, well.... Goodyear sells them as 33x12.50x15, and on the side wall it's stamped 33x12.50x15, but when I measured them with proper air pressure 26psi, they measured 32x11.50x15, mounted on 15x8" rims.
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If you look at the spec sheet of the tires that you buy you will notice that it tells you the exact size of the tires... my 35's a re actually 34.9" and your 33's will be 32.6or 7 something like that... it's completely normal...
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If you look at the spec sheet of the tires that you buy you will notice that it tells you the exact size of the tires... my 35's a re actually 34.9" and your 33's will be 32.6or 7 something like that... it's completely normal...
The 33x10.5 bfg km2's I'm looking at measure up to 32.8x10.5 I noticed bfg is pretty close to the actual listed size with all their tires
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Don't mean to hijack a thread, but I am on board with the no lift and have a question. I have a '12 Unlimited on order. I know very little about wheels or tires, but was wondering if 285-70-17, w 17x8's would work with no lift?

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Don't mean to hijack a thread, but I am on board with the no lift and have a question. I have a '12 Unlimited on order. I know very little about wheels or tires, but was wondering if 285-70-17, w 17x8's would work with no lift?

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not sure if your gonna get much help in the TJ section. You might get some one who may know but none of us run 17" you should try the JK section and ask around. But like i said someone who knows might chime in.

Not a whole lot of people know metric tire size. the majority of the TJ owners are running 15" wheels and our tires are in inches.
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Just keep in mind flares like these don't really offer much more clearance over stock. They're made more with looks and/or tire coverage in mind. To get something that actually provides more clearance for bigger tires you need a replacement fender, ideally a highline one. Some good reading material:

The TJ & LJ Highline/Flat Fender/Tube Fender Bible - JeepForum.com
Undecided on Tube Fenders, opinions wanted. - JeepForum.com

If you just need more tire coverage, then products like the Xenon flares are a good option.

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