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Old 11-09-2012, 04:51 PM   #1
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http://www.quadratec.com/Assets/Installation/1003.pdf

Read these directions and tell me how hard of an "easy job" installing these are going to be.

I don't even have a power drill for starters and isn't it a cardinal sin to drill in the frame of a vehicle?
How does Quadratec expect your average owner to be able to complete this?

What type of shop do you guys recommend I take these side bars to, where I can get a professional to install them? How much should I expect to pay?

Thank you fellow jeep bros.

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Old 11-09-2012, 04:56 PM   #2
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Let me make sure I understand your situation.

You own a Wrangler.
You don't own a drill.
You bought parts without looking at the instructions.

Did I miss something?

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Old 11-09-2012, 05:07 PM   #3
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yea, its fine to drill the frame, just make sure you put a bolt in the hole. and it would be cheaper to buy a drill and some bits.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:07 PM   #4
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It's pretty common for aftermarket parts to need some, coercing, to fit. I clicked on the link you provided, and it says you need a drill right there. Seems to me that you have no room to be upset at either Quadratec or Olympic.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:09 PM   #5
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Try looking for 4 wheel drive shops or jeep shops. If there's a local jeeping club, you can ask them for advice.

I'd have to say that if you don't feel comfortable drilling, you probably shouldn't do it. Because if you screw something up, you might never forgive yourself. It's not worth it.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:11 PM   #6
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Let me make sure I understand your situation.

You own a Wrangler.
You don't own a drill.
You bought parts without looking at the instructions.

Did I miss something?
He's looking for advice not to be made fun of. Some people don't have the proper tools and are still learning, nothing wrong with that.

Maybe take to a friends house that has the proper tools? Hope you find someone to help you out. Wish I could help more. Best of luck.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:37 PM   #7
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Agreed. You should be able to find a friend to help out as the installation is relatively straightforward. However, I would suggest getting a drill on your Christmas list. Lots of fun to be had!
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:50 PM   #8
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Get a drill (new used or loaner) and go for it, most things end up a bit of a PITA the first time. Don't let the bumps in the road stop you from finishing what you set out to do.

I don't know how many hours I put into a front shock change that should have been quick and easy. It took about 1 minute to drill though the top mounting nuts that I spent so much time trying to break loose. Now I know for next time.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:54 PM   #9
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Just kidding. Seriously buy a drill, install it, and buy a box of tissues to wipe away your tears.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:05 PM   #10
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Get a drill (new used or loaner) and go for it, most things end up a bit of a PITA the first time. Don't let the bumps in the road stop you from finishing what you set out to do.
That's the distilled essence of working on vehicles: sometimes the easiest projects become a royal PITA, but in a way it makes the completion of the project that much more rewarding.

To the OP, sounds too me like a great excuse to add to your power tool collection! It won't be the last time you'll use a power drill, I'll bet. Good luck!
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:09 PM   #11
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I understand your problem. I am kinda the same type of person. I do the "easy" mods. Lights, stereo, seat covers, heated seats, bolt on bumpers (where no drilling is required) and different tops.

While I COULD do the drilling and fight with rusty bolts I RARELY do that. I prefer seat time to wrench time. I do change oil and basic preventive maintenance, but the other things I pay for.

I expect to pay on average $75-$100 an hour for shop rate to do most repairs add lifts, change a clutch, fix my exhaust...all things a lot of people on here (the Forum) do every day.

There is a sense of "accomplishment" for those that prefer to do those things, and good for them....I prefer to pay the pros. When I take what I make "per hour", and factor in that I will usually take twice as long as a pro, plus the cost of tools, and the fact that if it is wrong I have to "fix it" again...I will pay someone else Most but not all of the time.

Bottom line you need to make the decision, buy tools or pay a pro? In time you will learn which is best for you. Good Luck. and yes you can drill holes on the Jeep!!
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He's looking for advice not to be made fun of. Some people don't have the proper tools and are still learning, nothing wrong with that.

Maybe take to a friends house that has the proper tools? Hope you find someone to help you out. Wish I could help more. Best of luck.


It could have been said a tad less direct and a little more friendly, but I'd say the point is pretty valid... For anyone looking to do DIY mods, even "bolt ons", a power drill is a pretty basic necessity...

You can get an "el cheapo" 12V rechargable at auto zone for like $20... it isn't worth $5, and I wouldn't actually recommend anyone ever buy one, but it'll drill a few holes, and it's better than nothing. Between that and a $300 dewalt, there's a ton of options for varying needs and budgets
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Where in Florida are you located? I live in tampa near USF and I'll give you a hand if you still need it. Pm me and I'll send you my number.
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Where in Florida are you located? I live in tampa near USF and I'll give you a hand if you still need it. Pm me and I'll send you my number.
That right there is exactly why I'm proud to be in the jeep community. Some random stranger will send you his number and come over to your house just to help you install something on your jeep. WranglerJR83 is awesome.
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that right there is exactly why i'm proud to be in the jeep community. Some random stranger will send you his number and come over to your house just to help you install something on your jeep. Wranglerjr83 is awesome.
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He's looking for advice not to be made fun of. Some people don't have the proper tools and are still learning, nothing wrong with that.
I appreciate you supporting the new member. I may have been a tad harsh but I feel it was justified and I'll explain why so that everyone may learn some useful forum rules.


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An average Jeep owner doesn't own a drill? Man I guess I'm hardcore I have 4 of them.
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yea, its fine to drill the frame, just make sure you put a bolt in the hole. and it would be cheaper to buy a drill and some bits.
I agree with tallz...go buy a drill and some drill bits, it will be cheaper then the labor and...you'll have a drill for your next mod. Also, I would suggest after you drill the holes in the frame just hit the bare metal with some black spray paint to help protect the frame from unwanted rust. Even with little experience I'm sure you can do this and you will be proud that you did it yourself. Invite a friend over, get a six-pack and make a Saturday afternoon out of it. Keep us updated and post us some pics once it's done. Good luck!

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