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Old 02-20-2013, 06:31 AM   #1
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Yet another lift question

My stepdad just bought an '02 TJ. He is wanting to run 33's so I told him to go with a 4" lift. He isn't going to be rock crawling and the jeep will mainly see pavement until it hits the hunting club which has for the most part good dirt roads. Not worrying about flexing out to clear obstacles or anything like that. What does the brain trust recommend? Rustys Offroad is maybe 20 minutes away which would be convenient if he got that and had any issues. Thanks for the help guys and gals.

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Old 02-20-2013, 11:07 AM   #2
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Based on what the plans are for using the Jeep as described, the stock Jeep will do and handle everything already stated.

Price plays a big roll as well, as in what you want to spend, you can do a Budget Boost kit for just a few hundred dollars or go the full blown lift kit. As for kits, I would go with the following, Teraflex, Full Traction or Clayton. Rustys has some good stuff, as well.

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Old 02-20-2013, 11:14 AM   #3
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Sounds like you don't need a full 4" lift. 4" lift opens a whole different can of worms that are pretty expensive. A 3" would probably work in your case. Maybe even a 2.5". And I'd recommend OME for a 2.5" lift (usually runs more like a 3"). I'm running 2.5" OME lift on 33's right now and it flexes more than enough for use at the hunting club. Just make sure to bump stop it correctly. 32's would also be very adequate for what you need. I can post a picture of my jeep later if you'd like to see a 3"~2.5" on 33's.
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33's are fit in two common ways on TJ's:

1. 4" suspension lift, with ~2" bumpstop extensions in front and ~2.5" in the rear. Requires a SYE/CV shaft.
2. 2.5" suspension lift, with a 1.25" body lift, with ~1-1.25" bumpstop extensions in front and ~1.25-1.5" in the rear. The 1.25" BL usually accompanies a 1" Motor Mount Lift to offset some of the driveline angles.

Either way you go, figure on some or many of the following components: longer front brake lines, extended sway bar links front and rear, gears, brake and steering upgrades to accommodate larger tires, SYE, CV shaft, bumpstop extensions, new shocks, adjustable track bars, and a rear track bar bracket.

Now, as said, a stock jeep will do everything you described. The most I would suggest is a 1"-1.25" BL, JKS quick discos, some good 31" tires and an oil pan skid.

And FWIW, most will tell you to stay as far away from Rusty's as possible.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:19 AM   #5
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The above is correct. I do plan on putting a 1.25" bl and 1"mml on next time I'm home from school. And I do have extended sway bar links front and rear along with adjustable track bars front and rear (track bars aren't needed for a 2.5" lift I just wanted to replace my 15 year old stock ones). But you could avoid the bl and mml if you don't want one by just doing a 2" bb or 2.5" SL with 32's or 31's. The Jeep will be very capable around the camp with that set up.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:20 AM   #6
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And in my opinion the stock steering and brakes are fine until you go over 33's. Unlimited does like to do a very complete job though and he does have a very nice rig.
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I'm in the same "boat". Won't be doing much offroading and pretty much going for a better look. I run 31's now but sits too low for me. Also want some sort of rocker guard/slider but not sure I want to drill into the tub. Sooooo confused what to do so I don't regret anything. Or.....wait for the sliders, and get 32's or 33's that'll go with a 2.5-3 inch lift.

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Old 02-20-2013, 11:43 AM   #8
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I'm in the same "boat". Won't be doing much offroading and pretty much going for a better look. I run 31's now but sits too low for me. Also want some sort of rocker guard/slider but not sure I want to drill into the tub. Sooooo confused what to do so I don't regret anything. Or.....wait for the sliders, and get 32's or 33's that'll go with a 2.5-3 inch lift.
In you're case, just do a bb and leave the 31's on or stick some 32's under it. If you're looking to do a 2.5" lift with a 1.25" bl and all that other stuff you're looking at about $1,500 to do it right before new tires. And you don't need $1,500 worth of mods to drive around town.
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In you're case, just do a bb and leave the 31's on or stick some 32's under it. If you're looking to do a 2.5" lift with a 1.25" bl and all that other stuff you're looking at about $1,500 to do it right before new tires. And you don't need $1,500 worth of mods to drive around town.
I understand, but I guess I should've mentioned I want to stay away from spacers. Want new shocks and springs for sure, so leaning towards the RC 2.5 lift, just hoping the 31's won't look stupid under it....since they're practically brand new from PO. Thanks
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:56 AM   #10
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31's on a 2.5" lift will look fine. And you can always upgrade later.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:05 PM   #11
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OP if you want to run 33s and dont care about flex just look at some of the clearance creating fender options. They will cost as much as a lift, you can 33s and maintain stock ride quality. Metal Cloak, Poison Spyder, GenRight, tnt customs, rokmen all make quality parts for this purpose. I run the metal cloak arched front fenders and here it is with 33s and zero suspension lift:


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Old 02-20-2013, 12:12 PM   #12
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Thanks for the input guys. This is for my stepdad and its his first jeep. He wants to run 33's and it will mostly be hunting club roads but I will slowly get him onto some trails. He doesn't want to cut anything and doesn't like body lifts.
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So look at the fenders I listed, with metalcloaks nothing has to be cut. I have cut nothing in the pictures above. (other than my grill for blinkers but you don't have to do that they have blinkers that fit in the fenders as well) (also I have a BL in the first pic but that is unrelated to the fenders its for my tummy tuck)
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:22 PM   #14
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Well that leaves you at pretty much doing a 4" lift if he's dead set on 33's. But I'd encourage him to look at some smaller body lifts.
And just FYI if he wants to run a 4" lift you need to do either a tcase drop or sye/dc driveshaft to avoid the driveline vibes. And also you'll need new rear uca's with the sye/dc upgrade.
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I've told him about the sye and few other things he is just stuck on that 4". So throw out a few names you may consider. I've got Rustys at my back door. I've heard a few complaints about them, anyone got complaints with them.
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I've told him about the sye and few other things he is just stuck on that 4". So throw out a few names you may consider. I've got Rustys at my back door. I've heard a few complaints about them, anyone got complaints with them.
You'll hear complaints about every single company on here.
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So throw out a few names you may consider.
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