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Old 04-03-2013, 10:46 AM   #4651
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Wat does shell gas have to do with anything? Do they have better mpg formula fuel or something?
No. But just like liquor that is a little more expensive is better with less impurities, same goes for gas. If it's a little more expensive there's (usually) a reason for it.

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Old 04-03-2013, 11:12 AM   #4652
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I've noticed that Jeeps show differences worse than other vehicles. If I don't use Shell gas, I chance loosing as much as 5mpg: I never had that with another vehicle (not that drastic). Take a look at all the factors then work towards mechanical issues. Tires, gearing, fuel, and height are some of the factors involved.

I'm running with a 4" lift, stock gears with a locker, 33x12.5 Mickey Thompson all weather tires, and a set of Warn lockout hubs; in the foothills of GA. With Shell gas, I average 16-17 in the city and have gotten as high as 21 on the highway.

This should be a good key for you to look at. If your running less, then you have mechanical issues. If your running much more, it may explain poor fuel milage; but maybe not 9. My semi truck gets 6, and there are some getting 8. I don't feel any street vehicle should get as bad as a semi truck which pulls 80,000lbs with 6 cylinder's the size of your thigh.
Well I don't know what the gearing is exactly but I have 33x10.50 and a 4 inch lift. It has a jet performance chip in it, but I didn't get the programmer when I bought the jeep so I'm thinking maybe that has something to do with it?

Also, my tires have about 13 lbs of pressure in them because when I used to have higher, It wore my tires terrible. They are brand new BFG A/Ts.

I don't drive excessively fast either. I do coming home from college on the weekend but but I normally try to go no faster than 60. I just have no idea why it's so bad. Does anyone know anything about the jet performance chip or know where I could get a programmer and what the cost would be?

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Old 04-03-2013, 11:13 AM   #4653
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See that's the trick! The three speed is so awful that it actually gets better gas mileage the slower you go.
Ha well dang. That is different hahaha
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:51 AM   #4654
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OK, lets get back to "So you know you drive a TJ When"


1. You look in the store window to see your reflection of your Jeep.

2. Wave at all Jeeps.

3. Wife says she will only ride with you if you wash her side around the door.

4. Only Magizines you get are 4wd parts catalogs.

5. All your family outings start by "Go get in the Jeep".

6. You always say hi to anyone getting out of a jeep.

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Old 04-03-2013, 01:22 PM   #4655
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So u just changed one sensor and got better mpg? I get like 12 on a good day and I can't figure out how to bump it up at all
Yep. The old one was the original with 119000+ miles. Looks like it had never been changed. It was dirty as hell.
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Yep. The old one was the original with 119000+ miles. Looks like it had never been changed. It was dirty as hell.
Sweet! I need to get my mpg better and if that will help then I'll be happy! I'm gonna get a high performance tune up later this week hoping it'll help me out.
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:46 PM   #4657
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Wat does shell gas have to do with anything? Do they have better mpg formula fuel or something?
Most fuel comes from the same refinery. I use to live in MI and almost all fuel came from the Marathon refinery. Yes, name brand fuel came from a off brand refinery. The difference is what each gas company requires to be added to it, or refined out. The process of refining out contaminants or adding additives and cleaners cost more money. Now we understand why the fuel at Chevron is 5 - 10 cents more than the off brand across the street.

I use to be in management for a national corp. Crunching numbers, time management, and problem solving was my job priority. Now I own a small trucking company and my priorities haven't changed.

I did a study on my trucks to find the fuel that was better. The more expensive fuel would get me one mile better for every gallon of fuel. When a single truck run's 150,000 miles a year, burning an average of 21,000 gallons of fuel, one learns about fuel.

I did the same study on gas in my region. Each region is different, but in the south east, Shell was the better fuel: getting as high as 5 mpg better than the worst fuel. In my region, Kroger burns the same fuel as Shell; therefore, I use that also. The key is running several tanks of exactly the same fuel and determining your average: then run a different fuel for several tanks. Do this during the same season (summer vs winter) so that the vehicle is running in the same conditions and no anti-freeze additives have been added at any point. Run the fuels and determine which is better. It's a simple process that takes no more extra work then crunching a few numbers and a determination to save money for future mods
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Well I don't know what the gearing is exactly but I have 33x10.50 and a 4 inch lift. It has a jet performance chip in it, but I didn't get the programmer when I bought the jeep so I'm thinking maybe that has something to do with it?

Also, my tires have about 13 lbs of pressure in them because when I used to have higher, It wore my tires terrible. They are brand new BFG A/Ts.

I don't drive excessively fast either. I do coming home from college on the weekend but but I normally try to go no faster than 60. I just have no idea why it's so bad. Does anyone know anything about the jet performance chip or know where I could get a programmer and what the cost would be?
Your the second person I've talked to with a performance chip and fuel mileage issues. I'd throw that thing out. I come from a family of drag racers and use to have one of my own. As I told my wife the other day, I use to be into speed and going fast... now I'm into "crawling". I'm new to Jeeps but I don't see a reason for performance chips. From the way I see it, they need low end torque, which they already come with.

Do you have 10 inch tires on stock width rims? Your doing right by watching tire wear but 13 seems awfully low: that's soft-wall pressures. You may already know this but if the tire is wearing hard on the inside and not the outside edges = too much air. Wearing on the edges faster than the middle = too little air. Any other kind of wear is not a pressure problem but a mechanical problem from balancing, to shocks, to alignment, to worn parts.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:01 PM   #4659
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You know you drive a TJ (or any Jeep for that matter) when you go to a church function and the people directing parking direct you to park in the field when there are plenty of spots in the concrete parking area.
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Your the second person I've talked to with a performance chip and fuel mileage issues. I'd throw that thing out. I come from a family of drag racers and use to have one of my own. As I told my wife the other day, I use to be into speed and going fast... now I'm into "crawling". I'm new to Jeeps but I don't see a reason for performance chips. From the way I see it, they need low end torque, which they already come with.

Do you have 10 inch tires on stock width rims? Your doing right by watching tire wear but 13 seems awfully low: that's soft-wall pressures. You may already know this but if the tire is wearing hard on the inside and not the outside edges = too much air. Wearing on the edges faster than the middle = too little air. Any other kind of wear is not a pressure problem but a mechanical problem from balancing, to shocks, to alignment, to worn parts.
Yea I have thought about it. I have ever really messed with anything like that though so I don't wanna mess anything up.

As for the tires. They are on the stock 15x8 rim. Before I got new tires they were wearing bad in the middle which caused terrible death wobble. That was with 40lbs of pressure. My girlfriends dad owns a tire shop and he sold me the new tires and I'm pretty sure he said he put 13 lbs in them to see how they wear with lower pressure. I have to go get them rotated this weekend or next so I am going to ask him what he is putting in them.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:11 PM   #4661
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You go wheeling with your buddy who is driving his Chevy and you start up a massively steep hill and your tires are spinning because of the wet grass and inadequate tires for the conditions. You know you drive a TJ when you walk back to his truck and say, "you can give it a try" and he replies, "If you can't do it, I know I can't do it!"
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:15 PM   #4663
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Yea I have thought about it. I have ever really messed with anything like that though so I don't wanna mess anything up.

As for the tires. They are on the stock 15x8 rim. Before I got new tires they were wearing bad in the middle which caused terrible death wobble. That was with 40lbs of pressure. My girlfriends dad owns a tire shop and he sold me the new tires and I'm pretty sure he said he put 13 lbs in them to see how they wear with lower pressure. I have to go get them rotated this weekend or next so I am going to ask him what he is putting in them.
I would be quite surprised if he said 13, her probably said 30.. With 33s I believe most say to use 26-30.
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Yea he was pretty busy that day so he might have just mixed them up. I just texted her to tell her to ask him. How would I go about taking the chip out. Can I just simply unplug it?
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Yea I have thought about it. I have ever really messed with anything like that though so I don't wanna mess anything up.

As for the tires. They are on the stock 15x8 rim. Before I got new tires they were wearing bad in the middle which caused terrible death wobble. That was with 40lbs of pressure. My girlfriends dad owns a tire shop and he sold me the new tires and I'm pretty sure he said he put 13 lbs in them to see how they wear with lower pressure. I have to go get them rotated this weekend or next so I am going to ask him what he is putting in them.
Sound's like you got someone who can give you sound advise on tires and lowering pressure was the right move for the wear your talking about. Lower pressure is also needed for a tire that is wider than the rim was designed for, which you also have. He might have 30 in there: I'm not sure he would take it from 40 to 13.

As far as the death wobble, the tire would only be a trigger but not the cause. The axle needs to be able to get a fraction of free movement to get one going. There are only a few causes and many triggers. The most common cause would be your track bar. Be sure it's in good condition and knuckles tight. Make sure the bolts are torqued correctly on both the track bar and the mounting brackets. When mine started it, I found my mounting bracket worked loose. After the track bar, start looking at your control arms.
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Sound's like you got someone who can give you sound advise on tires and lowering pressure was the right move for the wear your talking about. Lower pressure is also needed for a tire that is wider than the rim was designed for, which you also have. He might have 30 in there: I'm not sure he would take it from 40 to 13.

As far as the death wobble, the tire would only be a trigger but not the cause. The axle needs to be able to get a fraction of free movement to get one going. There are only a few causes and many triggers. The most common cause would be your track bar. Be sure it's in good condition and knuckles tight. Make sure the bolts are torqued correctly on both the track bar and the mounting brackets. When mine started it, I found my mounting bracket worked loose. After the track bar, start looking at your control arms.
Oh no I mean I got the death wobble fixed. I had to have the entire underside replaced on it but that was before I got the new tires. But Hopefully he will remember what he put in them cause I don't have a pressure gauge to check it.. Well at least at college with me
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Yea he was pretty busy that day so he might have just mixed them up. I just texted her to tell her to ask him. How would I go about taking the chip out. Can I just simply unplug it?
I'm old school American muscle, but I believe it's replaced. I think (get other advise) that you have to get your hands on a stock chip. My logic would be to disconnect the battery and swap out the chips. Don't take my word for it, but don't just take it out either.
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I'm old school American muscle, but I believe it's replaced. I think (get other advise) that you have to get your hands on a stock chip. My logic would be to disconnect the battery and swap out the chips. Don't take my word for it, but don't just take it out either.
Ok I'm glad I asked cause I was about to just go unplug it. Haha
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You know you drive a TJ when you are wheeling through a creek and the nose does a sudden dive into the water. You comely put into 4 and wheel out the other side like a summer afternoon stroll in the park.
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She ain't afraid of getting her dress all muddy when she gets in/out? Hah.
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i think that says more about you ol lady then it does your jeep..

means you got a country girl.. good job
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If they did that, this forum would get only half the current post's
Why cause no one would want to drive a Hybird jeep..?
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Why cause no one would want to drive a Hybird jeep..?
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Why cause no one would want to drive a Hybird jeep..?
No, because people wouldn't be able to brag about the horrible fuel mileage they get.
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No, because people wouldn't be able to brag about the horrible fuel mileage they get.
Seems like that's all that's happening on here lately... Lol but I know what you mean. On this next check I'm getting I'm only getting 20 hours. Like I'm going to be able to drive (only to where I really need to get and back) on that check for 2 weeks...
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No, because people wouldn't be able to brag about the horrible fuel mileage they get.
If that was directed at me I'm not trying to brag I'm just trying to figure out how to make it better haha
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