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Old 07-22-2008, 06:08 PM   #1
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From 2009 on we have a new law here in Germany that says that street-legal fog lights and highbeams must be lower than the hood.



That means that I have to put one pair of my highbeams on the front bumper.
Iīll sell the other pair.
On the new black lightbar i will install 4 smaller Hella Oval Double working lights with 2x 55W H3 in each light.

I want to have two street legal fog lights and two street legal high-beams because I often drive in a wooded area where I need as much light as possible in the night.

I know that will not look good. But is it really that bad?
(btw. all chrome parts except the front bumper will be gone in two weeks)

At the moment it looks like this:



In the future it could look like this:



Whatīs your opinion about the last pic?

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Old 07-22-2008, 06:12 PM   #2
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:17 PM   #3
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Will they allow you to keep them above the hood as long as they have covers while on the road?
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:25 PM   #4
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the two high beams in the center of the front bumper will be connected to he stock high beam switch. they will be activated with teh stock high beams. thatīs street legal.

the 4 working lights on the lightbar will be connected to an extra switch in the dash. they must not be covered. but using them while driving on public roads isnīt allowed.
theyīre called "working lights" and are also used on agricultural vehicles and construction machines. one pair enlightens an area of 400x200 feet.
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I thought you were going to get rid of the front bumper?
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:39 PM   #6
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Whatīs your opinion about the last pic?
You need a new shirt.
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:44 PM   #7
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I thought you were going to get rid of the front bumper?
two weeks ago I broke all my chrome parts except the front bumper.

the rear chrome bumper will be replaced by a Rock Crawler rear bumper,
the chrome sidesteps will be replaced by rocker guards and the chrome light bar will be replaced by a tiltable black lightbar.

when my chrome front bumper will be damaged, iīll also replace it.
but hereīs only sand, mud and gravel. and no rocks.

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two weeks ago I broke all my chrome parts except the front bumper.

the rear chrome bumper will be replaced by a Rock Crawler rear bumper,
the chrome sidesteps will be replaced by rocker guards and the chrome light bar will be replaced by a tiltable black lightbar.

when my chrome front bumper will be damaged, iīll also replace it.
but hereīs only sand, mud and gravel. and no rocks.

And...the chrome grill cover???
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Old 07-22-2008, 07:44 PM   #9
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Why do people run down the highway, with there off road lights on? If people aren't smart enough to know when to turn off the off road lights,,,,,,,guess what? the government steps in, to enlighten the ones using less then their God given potential.
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uh just wondering... could you put solid covers on your fog lights and save you the pain of removing em?

all 4 of my fogs have a solid black cover that doesnt let light through if i turn em on.. so to use em i gotta remove the cover
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Quote from Nico-"Here in Germany we prefer to park on stones"

Here in the US "we" prefer round lights over oval lights
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:13 PM   #12
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And...the chrome grill cover???
the stock grill behind teh chrome grill is bent...

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uh just wondering... could you put solid covers on your fog lights and save you the pain of removing em?
my 2 fog lights on the outer sie of the front bumper are street legal, i donīt have to cover them.

i could wire the 4 round lights on my lightbar that they donīt turn on with the stock high beam switch. that would also be legal. but i want an extra pair of legal high beams.

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Here in the US "we" prefer round lights over oval lights
the lights have to be as small as possible and as bright s possible. these oval double reflector lights are the brightests working lights on the market here in europe and theyīre only 3.5"/5.5" small.





and all that because some new laws from the European Union have to become national laws in all EU countries in 2009.
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Ahh isn't europe wonderful. they know what's best for everybody and have only your best interest in mind...

j/k

I think they'll look fine. as long as you're happy with the way they work, nothing else matters.
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Old 07-23-2008, 05:10 PM   #14
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Would it look better if I paint the lamps in matt black?

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the stock grill behind teh chrome grill is bent...
Oh. Well... Maybe you could paint the cover black or coat it with some rattle can rustproofing or herculiner or somthing. Just saying. I would.
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i just sold my 6 chrome lamps and will buy the same lamps in powder coated matte black (2 fog lights and 2 high beams).

i have to think a bit about the oval working lights. yes. round lamps would look better. but these oval 2x55W H3 lights are the brightest on the market.
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What I want to know is.. who is in the back of the jeep.. that's the real question... and why where they not good enough to be out with you????
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:06 AM   #18
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What I want to know is.. who is in the back of the jeep.. that's the real question... and why where they not good enough to be out with you????
thatīs my mom...
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if you put them on a seperate switch, and (obviously) only use them when theres no oncoming traffic.....how would anyone ever know to give you a ticket?
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:15 AM   #20
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IMO - with all that cash in lights up front, I would invest in some stone guards. I have the Hella 7 1/4" Black Magics with the clear covers... I think it's in keeping with the round headlights of the Jeep.....
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Old 07-24-2008, 11:54 AM   #21
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To bad you're not grandfathered in..

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