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Old 06-27-2011, 12:18 AM   #1
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Zone 3" Lift Installed

Just wanted to say unless you're a god, 6 hours is NOT even close to how long you'll spend installing this lift...

We started around 1:30pm today and called it quits at 12:30am taking about half an hour for a lunch break. We didn't have a pipe wrench handy so we still need to align it and re-center the steering wheel tomorrow.

Install overall went smoothly but we ran into a few nightmares...

1.) Upper shock bolts on the front were a pain in the butt to remove. Tried yanking the shock sideways to snap it off, no luck. So my buddy gets out the cutting torch. The rubber bushings burst into flames and I ended up with a nice hole burned in my air box and air filter that I'll need to repair this week.

2.) Mounting front track bar after lifting it...we bounced the front end multiple times to settle the suspension and it just wouldn't line up. Took 3 of us armed with pry bars and hammers to get it to pop back into place. I opted to drill a new hole 3/4" over from the original location instead of spending the $ on an adjustable front trackbar.

3.) Mounting rear track bar...same issue as front more or less.

My buddy has never dealt with Jeep tires before so he was ready to kill me when I said I wanted these things balanced as good as his machine could do them even though it meant I needed a crapton of wheel weights. The worst one was 125 grams or around 5 oz off...got quite a few weights on that one, but at least I trust that my tires won't be causing death wobble.

We need to align it and adjust the drag link tomorrow...since I didn't do the 1.25" body lift or 1" motor mount lift yet, I went ahead and installed the tcase drop. I think I still may have minor vibes, but not positive yet.

The alignment is toed in too far by 1/8"...the Jeep feels really "darty"...like it wants to dart right and dart left every time you bump the wheel trying to drive straight down the road. This is most likely caused by the toe in being too far, right...? Just wanting to make sure it won't be a problem even after we align it.

Also need to aim the headlights...but I went ahead and just dropped em down plenty so I wouldn't be blinding any other drivers on the road on the drive home tonight.

It was dark when we finished so I have no pics yet...but I'm really loving the way it's turning out. Looks soooo much better. I'll try to get a pic tomorrow once it's daylight.

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Old 06-27-2011, 07:01 AM   #2
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haha me and a friend did my lift this weekend too...

OME 2" lift w/jks discos and jks adj track bars f&r

i think it took us around 7 hrs total... first lift for both of us, but we've worked on lots of different vehicles before

for the shocks we used a small open ended wrench to hold the stud from spinning while we used another wrench to loosen the bolt.

overall, it wasn't too bad, just a lot of work.

feels good man

i still need to take it to a shop to get an alignment

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haha me and a friend did my lift this weekend too...

OME 2" lift w/jks discos and jks adj track bars f&r

i think it took us around 7 hrs total... first lift for both of us, but we've worked on lots of different vehicles before

for the shocks we used a small open ended wrench to hold the stud from spinning while we used another wrench to loosen the bolt.

overall, it wasn't too bad, just a lot of work.

feels good man

i still need to take it to a shop to get an alignment
Do the alignment yourself and it'll feel really good... after doing a lift, the alignment will be cake. lol. Just gotta set the toe-in so the front of the front tires is 1/16-1/8" closer together than the rear. You do this by loosening the adjusters on each end of the tie-rod and then use a pipe wrench to turn the tie-rod until your toe-in is set properly.
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Yep its hilarious how the instructions say 5-6 hours. I spent 8 hours on Saturday and 6 on Sunday. Reattaching the lower control arms and mounting the rear track bar bracket were my biggest pains.
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I want to do a lift, but not sure if I want to do something expensive or just Coil Spacers for now. How much was the lift you put on?
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my complete kit with susp. lift and body lift was like $1350 from dpgoffroad.com
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I was going to go with the Zone 3" so let me know how you like the ride!
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my complete kit with susp. lift and body lift was like $1350 from dpgoffroad.com
Edit: Saw the kit at DPG, I see the difference and yes good kit!

WOW!

I shipped Josh's kit to him for just over $650.00 including a steering stabilizer. Of course shipping will vary but damn! You must have gotten more stuff.

I am sorry you had so much trouble Josh. I know you will like the kit though. I apologize for the Hi-Jack. Have a blessed and prosperous day!

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not sure what's included in the zone lift but the DPG kit comes with OME 2" susp lift, jks adjustable rear sway bar links, jks front discos, and jks f&r adjustable track bar, as well as the JKS 1.25" BL and MML
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Ya they take a lot of work. I installed my first lift alone (3" with adjustable lower control arms) and an SYE in 44 hours of work (not including breaks, trips to tool store, etc). I believe this to be a very conservative number. I would imagine 50 hours is more like it. This was spread over a 2.5 week period.
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Allen,

No problem on the issues...anything I install never goes as planned. Not usually a problem with the product, usually just the typical issues associated with automotive work. lol

I got my drag link adjusted and aligned my toe-in to 1/16"...it tracks straight now and my steering wheel is no longer upside down. Much better. Unfortunately I have something popping underneath in the steering...no idea what it is, but gonna have to trace it down soon. I'm guessing something is worn out and letting me know it's time for replacement...I know I have a U-joint on the axle shaft that's getting really loose so I'm hoping that's it since I'm having it replaced soon. I also have drivetrain vibes out the ass...even with the tcase lowering kit installed (temporarily until the BL/MML gets installed). I originally thought it was my tires...when I hit about 50 mph it feels like I'm driving down railroad tracks and I get a loud howling. Thought it was the tires, but I took it out into our field at work which is fairly smooth grass and hit about 45 and it started doing it...leaving me leaning toward drivetrain vibes. I also noticed leaving a stoplight that as I took off in first gear, my shifter would bounce hard back and forth (side to side) for a few moments. I'm wondering if my transmission mount is worn out/torn from doing the tcase drop?

If all the vibes I'm getting are just from a bad mount or something...I think I'll be really happy once I get everything adjusted. Right now I at least like seeing everyone turn their heads as I go past, but it's not doing well as a daily driver at the moment. lol
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not sure what's included in the zone lift but the DPG kit comes with OME 2" susp lift, jks adjustable rear sway bar links, jks front discos, and jks f&r adjustable track bar, as well as the JKS 1.25" BL and MML
Zone 3" Kit comes with 3" suspension lift, extended sway bar links, trackbar relocation bracket...and I think that's it.

Combo includes the above plus 1.25" body lift (which includes the pucks and new bolts, tcase linkage drop bracket, some kind of bracket for the steering shaft, fan shroud brackets and a couple other little things). Plus I got the steering stabilizer with mine.

The OME lifts are nice for sure... only reason I didn't go with them is I wanted more than 2" of suspension lift and the price. They're not cheap, but if you're looking for a comfortable lift, they're definitely the way to go. I've heard nothing but good things about OME shocks. I see where the money is for that DPG kit though...the trackbars alone are probably $500, lift I think runs around $700, discos another $150...etc...
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Anyone got any ideas on my post before this last one? Definitely need to get this figured out so I can enjoy my new lift...and not tear anything up with vibes...
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Anyone got any ideas on my post before this last one? Definitely need to get this figured out so I can enjoy my new lift...and not tear anything up with vibes...
Sure do... My TJ had vibes after I installed the same 3" Zone lift after I put 33s on it, it was fine with 31s... I just installed a SYE (Rugged Ridge/Adams DS $375 shipped) now the vibes are gone, though mine wasn't as violent as what you've described. I still need to install adjustable upper CAs to right the pinion angle to better match the DS, even though it doesn't vibrate, I think it's best to match the pinion angle to the DS, plus or minus a degree. I think the Zone 3" kit nets closer to 4"s of lift, it did in my case, the t-case drop isn't enough to compensate. Take the rear driveshaft out, put it in 4 hi and see if it vibrates. All Jeeps act differently, mine only vibrated under acceleration. It was mostly noticeable in 2nd gear, I think I could have gotten away with it for some time but having the SYE with a longer DS is great piece of mind, however, I don't want to install one of them ever again LOL! It kicked my butt but it works.
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I'm really hoping it's not an issue requiring an SYE cuz I got a trip coming up in 2 weeks to visit family (where I wanted to show the Jeep off to them...completed...not rent a car and drive over)... most 3" Zone lifts don't usually have crazy vibes like this it seems like, but like you said...all Jeeps act differently, so who knows?

Mine is worst at about 50mph but starts coming on around 40...honestly thought it was road noise from the tires, but when I got it while on grass at 45ish, I figured that could be ruled out. I also get bad vibes upon heavier acceleration from a dead stop and the shifter shakes pretty bad...I'm gonna check the trans mount tomorrow and pray that's it. Is it a good possibility that could be the case...or is it highly unlikely that a broken trans mount would cause those types of symptoms?
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I have the Zone 3inch on my 03 TJ with 1.25 body lift, mml. I did use the transfer drop and mine has no vibes at all so far. I have put well over 1000 miles on it since the lift and no issues yet.
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I have the Zone 3inch on my 03 TJ with 1.25 body lift, mml. I did use the transfer drop and mine has no vibes at all so far. I have put well over 1000 miles on it since the lift and no issues yet.
Did you do the mml AND the tcase drop? Just curious...I was actually considering running both...or at least putting a couple washers in place of the spacers when I install the mml?

I'm hoping if it's just due to the tcase drop not being enough that when I do the mml, it'll solve the problem.
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I'm really hoping it's not an issue requiring an SYE cuz I got a trip coming up in 2 weeks to visit family (where I wanted to show the Jeep off to them...completed...not rent a car and drive over)... most 3" Zone lifts don't usually have crazy vibes like this it seems like, but like you said...all Jeeps act differently, so who knows?

Mine is worst at about 50mph but starts coming on around 40...honestly thought it was road noise from the tires, but when I got it while on grass at 45ish, I figured that could be ruled out. I also get bad vibes upon heavier acceleration from a dead stop and the shifter shakes pretty bad...I'm gonna check the trans mount tomorrow and pray that's it. Is it a good possibility that could be the case...or is it highly unlikely that a broken trans mount would cause those types of symptoms?
Well, a worn out mount could be a cause but I hate to tell you that it's not likely if you didn't have any vibe problems before you lifted it. I know that's not what you wanted to hear...I was also in denial, I blamed the same part, trans mount, surely it's not the angle... Or so I thought. It was. I posted a question not to long ago, "How long will u-joints last with a vibration"... I never got a reliable response. I think you're best bet is the SYE, otherwise, replace the u-joints in the rear DS for the time being, piece of mind for your trip.
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Well, a worn out mount could be a cause but I hate to tell you that it's not likely if you didn't have any vibe problems before you lifted it. I know that's not what you wanted to hear...I was also in denial, I blamed the same part, trans mount, surely it's not the angle... Or so I thought. It was. I posted a question not to long ago, "How long will u-joints last with a vibration"... I never got a reliable response. I think you're best bet is the SYE, otherwise, replace the u-joints in the rear DS for the time being, piece of mind for your trip.
lol...I'll be renting a car if I don't have the vibes fixed before the trip. No way am I gonna drive it with those vibes clear to IL and back (~550 miles)...I don't think even new u-joints would handle that trip well.

I didn't have the vibes before...but when I installed the tcase drop, I was a little rough on getting those spacers in and am wondering if I tore the mount then. I loosened the bolts to the mount...but when I tried to lower the skid, I was tugging on it pretty good before I realized I had the transmission jack underneath it still and it was preventing the skid from coming down any lower (which means I think I was tugging on the rubber of the mount). My shifter never shook side to side violently when taking off like it does now...would a bad driveline angle cause that too? Not arguing with you here...just questioning things so I can eliminate possibilities. I definitely appreciate the advice...and pray you're wrong...for the sake of my wallet.
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lol...I'll be renting a car if I don't have the vibes fixed before the trip. No way am I gonna drive it with those vibes clear to IL and back (~550 miles)...I don't think even new u-joints would handle that trip well.

I didn't have the vibes before...but when I installed the tcase drop, I was a little rough on getting those spacers in and am wondering if I tore the mount then. I loosened the bolts to the mount...but when I tried to lower the skid, I was tugging on it pretty good before I realized I had the transmission jack underneath it still and it was preventing the skid from coming down any lower (which means I think I was tugging on the rubber of the mount). My shifter never shook side to side violently when taking off like it does now...would a bad driveline angle cause that too? Not arguing with you here...just questioning things so I can eliminate possibilities. I definitely appreciate the advice...and pray you're wrong...for the sake of my wallet.
LOL! I know your not arguing with me... I really don't think you damaged the tranny mount, it's a solid piece of rubber and it's actually a very durable part. I wish I was wrong, for your sake, but the driveline angle is most likely causing your problem. I shook my driveshaft's u-joints with everything I had when I noticed the vibes, everything was as tight as could be. The driveshaft is just too short to work with the lift. I wish I could say it's an easy fix but unfortunately, you guessed it... SYE and CV driveshaft is the only way to do so in your case, as it was with me, plus adjustable upper control arms.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news... I really think you need a SYE kit to cure the problem...It allows for a longer driveshaft which eliminates vibrations. It's a bit of a job, I just did my first one this weekend but I'm glad to say it worked out and my vibes are gone!
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Definitely check out that u-joint. Also, throw in the BL and MML then see where you are at. Sounds like something is out of whack. "Most" 3" kits don't cause vibes like you are describing. The universe is just giving you the extra vibration so you can take care of whatever is wrong before your trip. Don't take to long in finding out what it is. Also, unless you did something serious to the drivetrain, I don't think it is a trans mount either. But you never know. Don't go throwing good money out that you could use for the SYE/DS combo.

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Sorry to hijack but how do you check tranny mounts? I'm getting vibes at stock height under acceleration and I can't figure out why
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Sorry to hijack but how do you check tranny mounts? I'm getting vibes at stock height under acceleration and I can't figure out why
Thanks for the replies folks... Jersey, the tranny mount is the 4 13mm (I think) nuts in the center of the tcase skid plate. My plan was to just gently jack the tranny up a little bit and examine the mount from the back of the skid if I could see anything. Otherwise I figured I'd support the tranny and drop the skid and just examine the mount up close.

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I know those pinion cams are used on the 4" lifts to prevent vibes...would those alone without the MML most likely solve all vibes with the 3" lift? I still intend to do the MML but I figure if those almost always solve the problem without then I'd be in great shape with...and it's only a $15 setback..instead of $400-600. lol

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Cool thank you! I'll check that out. Good luck with fixing your vibes!
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FYI i have a mml and the 2" susp. lift on mine and from a quick test drive yesterday I didn't notice any vibes.

i do have death wobble though! gotta get that alignment done
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Did you do the mml AND the tcase drop? Just curious...I was actually considering running both...or at least putting a couple washers in place of the spacers when I install the mml?

I'm hoping if it's just due to the tcase drop not being enough that when I do the mml, it'll solve the problem.
Yes I did the mml and the transfer drop.
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Yes I did the mml and the transfer drop.
Thanks... we're gonna try and do the bl and mml tomorrow evening. Either I'm getting used to the vibes or they're not as bad as I originally thought. I mean they're there...but they seem lighter than I originally was thinking. It probably doesn't help my Jeep is completely stripped down right now (no seats or anything other than driver seat) and the box of old parts from the lift is laying on the floor of the tub so it may be doing a lot of rattling.
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Oh and I forgot to mention...checked tranny mount and it appears to be fine.
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:43 AM   #29
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Hey guys...just wanted to post an update since I know how most of us hate it when we never update folks. lol

Got the Zone 1.25" body lift and JKS motor mount lift done tonight. Body lift was a nightmare due to one of the freaking body mount bolts snapping when I was breaking them all free last night. Figures... I get 10 out of 11 bolts broken free and on the last one...crank crank SNAP! *facepalm*

My buddy hated doing the MML due to one of the bolts having about 1/4" too little clearance to be removed...so he had to remove the entire plate the mount was attached to which took more time. Aside from that and a little cussing...especially when he dropped the mount spacer and it blasted him in the nose...it seemed to go pretty smoothly.

We went ahead and attached the steering carrier bearing or whatever spacer as well...not sure if that's included with the JKS kits or not, but I noticed it made my steering a little stiffer...BUT smoother at the same time...if that makes any sense. I like it.

Anyway...the biggest update...

NO MORE DRIVELINE VIBES!!!!!!!

We got everything back together...fired it up and headed for home. Rides nice and smooth! Thank freaking God! I need to adjust or possibly replace my tcase linkage due to two of the four bolts spinning in the bushings...but other than that, the install wasn't too bad. I'm really stoked to take the Jeep out and test it out a little...definitely wanna see how it runs at highway speeds and do a lil more stop and go driving but so far it seems to drive better than it did stock. I think I'm gonna be super happy with it.

Planning on welding a patch in where my rust hole is in the rear passenger side corner where the rollbar is mounted tomorrow evening...and once that's done, I've already got the interior stripped down and will be bedlining it this weekend (provided we don't push back the rust hole patching). Soooooo close to having it almost completely done!

Oh and I left the tcase drop in place as well...it may not be necessary with the MML but I'm not risking it. Might mess with it later, but I doubt it. I'm not a hardcore wheeler so it sitting a little lower doesn't bother me too much.
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:57 AM   #30
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Very, VERY Cool! Have fun with it now!

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