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Old 02-28-2012, 04:37 PM   #31
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:53 PM   #32
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I would go with zone 4" Good quality for the price. Not really a fan of bodylifts. With the 4" you get bump stops front and rear and cam plates. Tha directions are great. The springs give you more than 4". After it breaks in It rides getter than stock. All parts are are in bags and numbered which makes things easier.

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Old 02-28-2012, 08:55 PM   #33
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If you want to LEARN, go read some build threads over on JF and Pirate.
x2. This forum is great for a lot of things, but technical information isn't one of them, especially good info on link suspension. There are some vendors on here who will try to sell you on buying some brand X "kit", but you're money will be much better spent by thinking for yourself.
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:18 PM   #34
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It was night and day. The long arms were a hudge improvement. Any one that rides in it notices the difference.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:57 PM   #35
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So many options. So much confusion.

IMO: If you are on a budget the RC or Zone kit are just fine for getting started.

If you beat up or break a component on which ever kit you get; you can easily upgrade it for something stronger/better later on if needed.

None of the lift kits (regardless of brand name or price) offered are perfect for each and every scenario that everyone will drive their Jeep into.

IMO: Start off buying what you can afford and upgrade/change/replace as needed when you and your Jeep grow into more and more off roading situations.

Just because you read it in a magazine or see it posted on a web forum... you can't be certain if it will work for your exact scenario/situation.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:36 PM   #36
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Thanks to all for the info, I was looking at the same two kits. I'm a novice and I'm worried abouty things like needing longer brake lines, wobble etc. so I plan on having a local shop install it professionally.
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Old 04-01-2012, 10:50 PM   #37
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I have a RC 4" lift with the 2.2 shocks and I think its great not having any issues and the money I saved on the lift I spent on a dual steering stabilizer.


FYI I forgot but will be adding extended brake lines you should also with a 4" lift....
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:26 AM   #38
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I agree with this. The springs and shocks are fine but I would not run either control arms. Those bushings are the devil. Rc should be better than the zone. But I have no experience to claim from.
I am looking at the Zone 4" for another one of my TJ's. I really like the 3 inch one on my TJ. Are the control arms with the 4" really that bad? The TJ I'm thinking about putting it on will see probably 90 percent street. It will be used to travel to school and back. How long will they hold up if it's not wheeled alot??

As a matter of fact I'm looking to de-lift one from a 5 or 5.5 RC lift. It's old and the shocks are wore out.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:47 AM   #39
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I'm thinking picking the Zone 4.25" combo lift would definately be the wiser choice. No need for SYE or DC driveshaft.

I am also on a tight budget but run a bit of a Frankenstein lift. Worked out much cheaper but you need some time and patience.
I run a 1.25" body lift with 1" motor mount lift. I have some beefy Zone JK front sway bar links at the rear with 2" Zone Nitro shocks. I have 2" spacers at the rear with 2" BDS XJ coils and 1" spacers upfront - I will be installing some stock JKU shocks upfront within the next couple of days. I don't have to drive that far everyday so I have the opportunity to drive around when I have time and test my setup.
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I'm thinking picking the Zone 4.25" combo lift would definately be the wiser choice. No need for SYE or DC driveshaft.
Just keep in mind that isn't always the case, contrary to what the lift manufacturer would have you believe. There are plenty of people on here that can attest to needing either a t-case drop or SYE after the installation of that lift.
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I install a lot of RC kits, including their 4" kit (installing a 2.5"/1.25" as we speak actually).

I have not had a single complaint about the RC coils or shocks after 20+ RC TJ installs, including two that belong to friends of mine. I don't think quality is an issue there. I'd put the RC 2.0 Nitros against the Zone Nitros any day. Funny thing is they are probably made in the same factory in Mexico.

Coils selected for the proper application and setup will determine most of how any of those kits work out in the end. That is the case with RC and Zone.

I think with those brands/kits, you are comparing apples to apples and I would go with the better set up of the two...and on paper, that is RC.
I wouldn't put RC's nitros against Zone's. I ran zone's nitro shock and it's excellent. It's valved perfectly for our jeeps. I've been following a review on jeepforum about a dude who was given n2.0's from RC to do a honest review. He loved em ....at first....until they went to shit and had to get replacements. It all just reminded me of the crazy replacement spree I had to go on with RC's 2.2's and their damn flex joints. I will not buy nor recommend RC to anyone again. They can sell lots of stuff in one kit for cheap but there's a reason it's cheap.

To the OP, go with Zone or piece together your kit with parts you prefer.
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I'd guess it depends more on the luck of the draw. Neither RC or Zone is top of the line, so I'd expect failure from both. My nitro shocks from Zone were fine until about a year and a half after I installed them. Both back shocks are now completely shot and the ride is horrible as a result. I'm trying to put off buying new shocks until I get a chance to outboard, but if any more shocks die I might have to get some sooner rather than later.
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Just keep in mind that isn't always the case, contrary to what the lift manufacturer would have you believe. There are plenty of people on here that can attest to needing either a t-case drop or SYE after the installation of that lift.
Yea I know what you're saying but I had vibes with oly 2" BB but with the 1" MML the vibes are gone.
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Yea I know what you're saying but I had vibes with oly 2" BB but with the 1" MML the vibes are gone.
Exactly, and with that Zone kit you're now pushing the suspension up another inch to 3" total, and that same MML is still supposed to correct your driveline angles. Many people are able to do a 2" lift without any MML and still have no vibes, thus a MML along with a 3" lift might work. I'd guess that for people who had vibes at 2" like you would need more than just the MML at 3".

Its certainly not a bad thing though; I've seen more than enough failures on the trail because of either the stock drive shaft or the slip yoke on the transfercase. If you wheel at all you'll be doing yourself a favor by getting rid of it.
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Exactly, and with that Zone kit you're now pushing the suspension up another inch to 3" total, and that same MML is still supposed to correct your driveline angles. Many people are able to do a 2" lift without any MML and still have no vibes, thus a MML along with a 3" lift might work. I'd guess that for people who had vibes at 2" like you would need more than just the MML at 3".

Its certainly not a bad thing though; I've seen more than enough failures on the trail because of either the stock drive shaft or the slip yoke on the transfercase. If you wheel at all you'll be doing yourself a favor by getting rid of it.
I plan on doing mine as well but things are pretty expensive around here.
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I just ordered the Zone 3 inch lft from Jeff at rockridge. Did a lot of research and found a lot of people happy with that lift and happy with Jeff, so... i will post pics in a few weeks gotta get some tires and rims now arrrgghh!


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I have experience with the RC 4" lift...and I am sorry I bought it. I barely put 2,000 miles a year on my 03 Rubicon...and had the lift done by friends almost 4 years ago. The bushings in the shocks went first, then we noticed a 'lean' to the right passenger side. Haven't driven it at all since last november-took it out last week and it's leaning probably 1 1/2" to the right now! So I'm going to a local 4x4 shop to see what to replace it with-they asked as soon as I told them it was leaning if my lift was RC! Told me its VERY COMMON because the springs are poor quality.
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I have experience with the RC 4" lift...and I am sorry I bought it. I barely put 2,000 miles a year on my 03 Rubicon...and had the lift done by friends almost 4 years ago. The bushings in the shocks went first, then we noticed a 'lean' to the right passenger side. Haven't driven it at all since last november-took it out last week and it's leaning probably 1 1/2" to the right now! So I'm going to a local 4x4 shop to see what to replace it with-they asked as soon as I told them it was leaning if my lift was RC! Told me its VERY COMMON because the springs are poor quality.
6 years with my RC springs, no issues.

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