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Old 02-27-2014, 01:59 PM   #1
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Zone 4" Suspension

For starters; this is my first post. Been reading the forum for a month now, soaking it all in. Picked up my first Jeep about 2 months ago, an '03 Rubicon.

I want to run 33's, and do it with suspension, not body lift. Have never been a fan of body lifts. I also don't want to spend $1500-2500. I have seen a few kits I like and I know enough to stay away from RC.

I have tried searching this lift, but it seems everyone recommends the Zone 4.25 combo lift, what about their 4" Suspension lift?

It looks like a good value, $529. And comes with 4 lower control arms, albeit non adjustable.

Has anyone tried this? Or am I missing something. Any input is appreciated.

As for use, this is a weekend, top down family hauler that will see some trails and hunting camp use when I can sneak away. I'm not taking it to Moab but don't want to kill performance over an extra $100-200 for a better lift.

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Old 02-27-2014, 02:24 PM   #2
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When you go with a 4"+ suspension lift its strongly suggested to go with a slip yoke eliminator, cv shaft, and you'll need upper adjustable rear control arms to adjust your pinion angle so you dont get vibes.

If you dont do the sye and whatnot, you'll need to drop the tcase a bit...i dont see the point to lift the suspension just to drop the belly.

With the 4.25" kit you can go with the supplied bl and mml to not have to drop the tcase but still have the clearance.

Plus, the 4.25" kit looks great with 33's

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Since it's a Rubicon I don't think I have to do a SYE but have heard conflicting info about the driveshaft. My local 4 Wheel Parts said up to 4" I would be fine with factory shaft, but others have said replace.

I don't know if it being a Rubicon matters in that regard. And just FYI I'm not using 4 Wheel to install anything, just like to browse, lol.

I do like the pics I've seen of the 4.25. I've just had body lifts on trucks before and never been a fan of the gap.

Would I need upper adjustables all the way around, or just on the rear. If I remember right the front is already a CV shaft.

Thanks for your info!
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I've got a 1.25" body lift on mine...its not too noticeable of a gap in my opinion.

Heres a pic for reference:


The front is fine, but i do vote that you'll need a longer shaft for the rear even with the rubicon but as mentioned you wont need the sye. Tom Woods or Adams would get my vote. Someone more knowledgeable about rubi's will most likely chime in though, since i could of course be mistaken. As for control arms, just the upper rear's would need to be adjustable.

I personally have upper adjustable front and rears and fixed lowers front and rear.
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Even with the Rubi, you would need the double cardan drive shaft at 4", plus the adjustable arms, and an angled rear track bar bracket. The other parts that would be beneficial with that lift would be an adjustable front track bar, so you don't have to relocate the stock bar to a weaker mounting point (This would apply to the combo lift as well). If you don't do the dc drive shaft, expect a transfer case drop of about an inch and a half.

IMHO, I think the combo lift is a better choice as it keeps your steering geometry that much closer to stock. The 1.25" gap from the body lift is barely noticeable (especially if you just hit your inner fenders with a little flat black spray paint). Good luck in whatever you choose.
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That's a good looking setup, and you're right, the gap is not noticeable.

I'm all for keeping the steering geometry as close to stock as possible. I've been reading the posts/horror stories about all the time and $$ spent correcting steering issues.

I'm still considering all options, it's a bit overwhelming trying to decide, I definitely don't want to lift it and then have to keep throwing money at it to make it right.

Are you running the Zone shocks? If so the Hydro or Nitro? How do you like them.

What about the pinion cam kit they show as an option, recommended? Or is it one of those "every Jeep is different" kind of things?

How about the disco's, does this lift give you enough clearance or is it pointless to disconnect?

Sorry for so many ??'s at once, just looking at the combo lift on Zone and wondering which components I would need.
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As water mentioned...i sprayed my inner fenders with a little flat black paint to keep it looking nice. Also did it to the rear and front so you really dont notice the gap i've got due to the 1.25" body lift. I mainly have my body lift in order to complete my tummy tuck in the nearish future.

I'm currently running zone nitro shocks but when i have some money to blow i'll be going with a set of bilstein 5100's.

I'm not familiar with the pinion cam kit so i really cant comment on that.

I've got discos but if i was to do it over i'd go with a currie antirock system.
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I lifted my 04 Rubicon with a 4" currie short arm kit and the antirock torsion system on the front. I could not be happier. I replaced the rear drive shaft with a CV jointed shaft. Stock shaft was binding causing to much vibration for my liking.

Only thing with the currie kit is be sure you get the correct springs for the rear. They make two different springs for the rear.

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What about the pinion cam kit they show as an option, recommended? Or is it one of those "every Jeep is different" kind of things?

How about the disco's, does this lift give you enough clearance or is it pointless to disconnect?
You won't need the cam kit, and for the $60, if you plan on wheeling at all, the disco's would be a good upgrade. Later, if you decide you want to upgrade to the anti-rock, you could probably get a good portion of that $60 back on CL. Here's a couple of pics of my son's Jeep with the 4.25 combo lift. The trail pic is with the discos disconnected.
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I don't have the zone shocks so I'm not speaking from experience, but everyone always says the standard shocks give you a better ride unless you're packing a lot of weight onto the jeep and then you might want the nitro shocks.
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That's a lot of helpful info, I appreciate it. I read through the install instructions on the Zone site, seems like a good weekend project.

Water Dog, your sons Jeep looks nice, a good amount of flex from the looks of it.
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That's a lot of helpful info, I appreciate it. I read through the install instructions on the Zone site, seems like a good weekend project.

Water Dog, your sons Jeep looks nice, a good amount of flex from the looks of it.
He's very happy with his Zone lift. For the $'s, it's a really pretty well thought out and decent quality lift. the only thing that would be really nice to add is an adjustable front track bar. If you decide to do that, take a look at Metalcloak...best bang for the buck.

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So next weekend jeep fest comes to oahu. I had decided on a RK lift but I keep seeing the zone lift and still haven't fully committee. Question tho for you that have the zone. Say down the line I wanna upgrade as I go such as adjustable control arms is it do able
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Say down the line I wanna upgrade as I go such as adjustable control arms is it do able
Yes
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So can I do same things with a zone say vs a rock krawler
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So can I do same things with a zone say vs a rock krawler
Yes . I started 2 years ago (current jeep) with a 4" zone kit . I have in them 2 years tried different springs , shocks , control arms , trac bars , going to try fox shocks and savvy springs this spring . The CA's and TB's are staying MC wins hands down for me . My profile is how the jeep sits now .
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I currently run the Zone 4.25 for about 4 years now. Never had a problem except when I needed a newer and long steering stabilizer. Without it, you may feel like your sliding on ice. That was my problem, so I got a new one . I love my Zone, like the OP said, I did a lot of researching. I was looking at the SkyJacker sport lift. Same price, but horrible quality. Glad. I went with Zone. I'll keep my setup and just add on to have it more aggressive looking and still functional. Btw, I as well have 33's.
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zonage.

Like a few of the people that have already posted, I also have some hands on experience with zone lifts.
Brother in law put the 4.5" on his Cherokee with the regular shocks, and then I put the same lift on my 99' Cherokee but I did go ahead and spring for the nitro shocks.well worth the extra $$. Trust me, its noticeable!
Anyway, then a good friend of mine put the 4" on his tj and also got the nitro shocks.
Great lifts, and they do ride BETTER then stock.
I will be putting the 4" on my tj very soon also.

And btw, you are correct your rubi already has the good shaft. The zone kit comes with everything to address drive line angles, you won't need to buy anything else.
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I placed my order for the Zone 4.25 kit with Nitro shocks and quick disconnects yesterday from Alan at AOR. Will be here Monday, will post pics during the process. Pretty excited about getting this build started.....now to pick out tires!!
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Congrats. Its a nice setup for a really decent price. I've enjoyed mine for 2.5 years now.

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I have been running mine for close to 8 months and love it for the money spent.
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Congrats. Its a nice setup for a really decent price. I've enjoyed mine for 2.5 years now. '03 Rubicon with 4.25" Zone lift
What size tires are those? That's a nice looking Rubi!
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Any of y'all get any sag as y'all started adding weight
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Which disconnects is everyone using with the Zone kit? When I bought my Rubi, it had a Zone 3" lift still in the box with it, I'm buying everything needed to make it a 4.25" from Alan.

Also, it came with the Nitro shocks and stabilizer. How is the ride on the highway? I ask as my Rubi is my DD.

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Which disconnects is everyone using with the Zone kit? When I bought my Rubi, it had a Zone 3" lift still in the box with it, I'm buying everything needed to make it a 4.25" from Alan. Also, it came with the Nitro shocks and stabilizer. How is the ride on the highway? I ask as my Rubi is my DD. Thanks!
I ordered the zone disconnects, and I am also using the Nitro shocks. Hopefully within the next week or two I will be able to comment on ride quality.
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Any of y'all get any sag as y'all started adding weight
Not sure as I haven't added any additional weight. But it shouldn't be that much of an issue, though I most likely will upgrade my front shocks if need be as I'll be adding a GenRight front and rear bumper. I can let you know once I add my gas tank skid plate
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What size tires are those? That's a nice looking Rubi!
33x12.5R15 BFG MT's

I am running Currie Anti Rock in the front.
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Ride is better then stock
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MML and Body lift installed this weekend. Going to do the suspension next Saturday. I have about 7 hours in it so far. A second person would have been very helpful!
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I also have the zone lift on 33's.

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