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Old 01-23-2013, 12:58 PM   #1
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Zone lift? Shocks? SYE?

I have a 2005 LJ with a 1.75 inch spacer lift from Zone and like the lift, only problem is it tends to hit hard in the back when i go over bumps. I have a twin sub box back there but it maybe weighs 50 lbs at most. I am going to put a 4 inch lift with 33 inch tires soon to get the right stance im looking for. I have alot of questions.
1. I would like to stay with Zone because I have read many good reviews with this brand, but should I get the 4.25" combo or just the 4" lift?
2. Will I need to get a SYE for either of these lifts? If so which one. (Jeep will be 90% on road, 10% off road)
3. Should i buy a full kit? Or get everything in the kit except the shocks and buy my own? If so which shocks? (If i get full kit i will buy the upgrade to nitro shocks)
4. I am buying a steering stabilizer with the lift, will a new track bar be needed as well?
Sorry for so many questions, please do your best to answer them!!

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Old 01-23-2013, 02:06 PM   #2
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1. I've heard good things about zone, but don't be afraid to step out of the zone so to speak. RK, OME, Clayton, and many other companies make fantastic products.

2. You're going to want a SYE. Novak, JB, Teraflex, I'm sure there's more brands as well.

3. That's really up to you if you want to buy a la carte or an easier full kit.

4. No, you can reuse your trackbar. Although steering upgrades should be high on your list.

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I don't think you will "need" a SYE with a 3" spring lift on a LJ. But the SYE is a good thing to have for other reasons.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:45 AM   #4
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1. I've heard good things about zone, but don't be afraid to step out of the zone so to speak. RK, OME, Clayton, and many other companies make fantastic products.

2. You're going to want a SYE. Novak, JB, Teraflex, I'm sure there's more brands as well.

3. That's really up to you if you want to buy a la carte or an easier full kit.

4. No, you can reuse your trackbar. Although steering upgrades should be high on your list.
Thanks for your helpful advice, im leaning more towards the 4" rather than the combo, not too much on body lifts. SYE is gonna be a little expensive but if its needed its needed. As for the shocks, i think im going to try out the nitro shocks and see how they are, if they arent good ill prolly switch to some bilstein 5100, everyone seems to like those for on/off road use.
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i went with the zone 4" ilo of the combo kit
like it alot
you have to ask yourself WHAT SIZE TIRE DO I WANT TO RUN and go from there, this should be true imho for anyone starting out wanting to alter suspension/body.

if i had more money i would have got all adjustable ca's, but so far i just have upper rears and its fine.
you also have to decide if you are going to use the provided tcase drop and do sye/shaft at a later time or not.
track bar brackets work, but def not ideal.
dont get a drop pitman arm.
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Old 01-25-2013, 11:11 AM   #6
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Just bought my Zone 4" yesterday and having it installed next week hopefully. Sucks though as I just upgraded and bought new Bilstein 5100 shocks that I can't use with the new lift. Hopefully the Zone Nitros are good as I really don't want to drop another $300 into new Bilsteins. Anyone looking for some 2 week old Bilstein 5100 3in lift fronts and 0-2" rears?
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Just bought my Zone 4" yesterday and having it installed next week hopefully. Sucks though as I just upgraded and bought new Bilstein 5100 shocks that I can't use with the new lift. Hopefully the Zone Nitros are good as I really don't want to drop another $300 into new Bilsteins. Anyone looking for some 2 week old Bilstein 5100 3in lift fronts and 0-2" rears?
When its all done post alot of pics and tell me how you like it please!!
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you have to ask yourself WHAT SIZE TIRE DO I WANT TO RUN
First, ask yourself "What do I want to do with this Jeep" Which will give you a general idea what you're looking for in the suspension system you're putting together. Then ask yourself about tire size.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:47 AM   #9
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i went with the zone 4" ilo of the combo kit
like it alot
you have to ask yourself WHAT SIZE TIRE DO I WANT TO RUN and go from there, this should be true imho for anyone starting out wanting to alter suspension/body.

if i had more money i would have got all adjustable ca's, but so far i just have upper rears and its fine.
you also have to decide if you are going to use the provided tcase drop and do sye/shaft at a later time or not.
track bar brackets work, but def not ideal.
dont get a drop pitman arm.
I actually am leaning towards the transfer case drop instead of spending more on a SYE, not in my budget. Let me get this straight, the transfer case drop included eliminates the need for a SYE?
What i am planning to do is the 4" sl kit but with bilstein 5100. If im ok with transfer case drop, i should not need anything else except a steering stabilizer, correct? Jeep is mainly DD, lift is for looks.
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I actually am leaning towards the transfer case drop instead of spending more on a SYE, not in my budget. Let me get this straight, the transfer case drop included eliminates the need for a SYE?
What i am planning to do is the 4" sl kit but with bilstein 5100. If im ok with transfer case drop, i should not need anything else except a steering stabilizer, correct? Jeep is mainly DD, lift is for looks.
Lots of good info in this thread.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/do-i...ft-215426.html

In the end, a 4" SL on a TJ isn't going to NEED a SYE, but it is HIGHLY recommended. Doing a TC drop will negate some of the clearance you gain from the lift and most likely will not eliminate all the drive line vibes.

If you do end up going the SYE route, be prepared to buy adjustable rear upper control arms.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:50 AM   #11
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I am having my lift installed tomorrow and will post before and after pics for ya here.
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I am having my lift installed tomorrow and will post before and after pics for ya here.
What'd that run you?
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Let me get this straight, the transfer case drop included eliminates the need for a SYE?
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What'd that run you?
$530 for the lift and $400 to install Would have loved to do it myself but as it's currently my only car and with little to no tools, time, and place to do it, I was pretty much forced to pay to have it done. Still, if the vibes are somewhat gone I will be happy. That and knowing exactly what is under my Jeep makes it worth while.
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I am having my lift installed tomorrow and will post before and after pics for ya here.
Sounds good!!
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Old 01-31-2013, 06:45 PM   #17
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Had it installed today. I like it a lot as it doesn't roll as much in corners and is considerably higher than what I expected. I will say the vibes I was having prior to having it installed are worse now even with the Tcase drop included in the kit but it's not too terrible. Unless the coils settle much lower I will likely add 35s to it when I get back. The SYE and CV with adj upper control arms are definitely on the radar now which was likely gonna happen regardless. Overall quite happy with it. They were even able to leave my new Bilstein 5100s on the front that I purchased not expecting to give it a 4in lift. Now I only have to sell the rear ones that are for a 0-2in lift that I just got 2 weeks ago and than I can buy the new Bilstein rears... Running the Zone Nitro rears and Bilstein fronts and they feel very good but the ride is stiffer than before but not harsh. I guess my springs were just old and too weak. A before and after pic showing an increased lift in the rear than before.
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Looks great!

What wheels (backspacing?) and tires are you running?
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:18 PM   #19
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Thanks brother! Now all I need is my door surrounds to arrive so I can install my Rampage Frameless so I don't have to freeze my butt off in the mornings with this extended top... Hopefully tomorrow
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No clue. The rims are Cragar 15s and the tires are BFGs 33x12.5. No idea about back spacing but I know the lift info said 3.75 I think. I asked the tech if I needed something else and he said that I was good. No idea what that meant but I guess I'll find out the hard way if the wheels fall off this weekend! Lol. Nothing rubs and I don't do any off roading as of yet.

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