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Old 12-13-2013, 02:54 PM   #1
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33 by 12.5 without suspension lift?

Hey fellow YJers! I am wondering if I can fit 33"X12.5" MT Baja MTZ's on my 95 without a suspension lift. How much body lift would I need? Or just cut out the fenders? I've seen recommendations of a 4 inch suspension lift to clear 33's, but I have seen people run them without so much lift. Not sure if they are rubbing fenders every time the wheel or what. I would like to be able to run them with as minimal lift as possible to keep the center of gravity low, but still have clearance to not rub the tires all day long. Anyone's advice on this would be great! Thanks!

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Old 12-13-2013, 04:04 PM   #2
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Cut the fenders and get either an Old man emu lift or rancho lift. Both lifts will give you around 2 in of lift depending on what all you are carrying such as hardtop ect. I would not do a body lift.

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Old 12-13-2013, 04:15 PM   #3
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1" of body lift isn't bad, anything higher and I'd be weary
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:20 PM   #4
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If you stay on the street it doesn't take much but you'll be rubbing over bumps. For off-road you really need about 4"s, you could do 1" body, 1" shackle, and 2" spring, or 2" any way you want, and a whole lot of sheet metal cutting. To stay with the lowest ride you're going to have to cut or get flat fenders and cut, no way around it off-road. I guess you could adjust your bump stops to limit flex, but then why go off-road?
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Right on so 4 inch is pretty much necessary is what I'm gathering for good off roading capability with that tire size. Will I still have to modify the fenders if I do a 4 inch suspension lift?
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Probably not, that should give you plenty of room. You may want to add to your bumpstops if it looks like it will rub, only way to tell is test it's flex when everything is ready and see if there are areas that will rub.
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With my driver side front tire on a 3' retaining wall, this is how my 35's fit with a 4.5 inch lift. The area circled is where i did some trimming even though it was not rubbing yet. Again this is with 35" tires, with 33's I would have plenty of room.

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With my driver side front tire on a 3' retaining wall, this is how my 35's fit with a 4.5 inch lift. The area circled is where i did some trimming even though it was not rubbing yet. Again this is with 35" tires, with 33's I would have plenty of room.
Whoa thos look like some pretty radical fender flares you have there! Thanks to all for the info!
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Anyone have experience with rough country lifts? Great price.. leaves me wondering if it is too good to be true. Also 4" vs 4 1/2" military wrap. Wrapped worth the extra?
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I had an early RC lift and it was crap, some on here swear they have changed, I don't trust RC.
I'd go RE Express, BDS, OME, and if going budget Zone.
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soa. sway bar delete. fender trim. cheap effective.
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Old 12-13-2013, 08:08 PM   #13
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soa. sway bar delete. fender trim. cheap effective.
I've heard going SOA is much more costly because of other modifications that jave to be done to accommodate it. The reason I'm tempted by the Rough Country is it comes with everything and I can do it myself. Includes transfer case drop so I can retain the same driveshafts, extended brakelines, drop pitman arm, extended swaybar links etc etc.
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If you do the rough country get the new military wrap kit. The regular RC 4" lift is garbage.

New fenders, high lining, redoing the rear inner fenders, a little stretch and you can clear 40s with a 1 inch body lift. Its a lot more work that a 4 inch lift though..lol
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If you do the rough country get the new military wrap kit. The regular RC 4" lift is garbage.

New fenders, high lining, redoing the rear inner fenders, a little stretch and you can clear 40s with a 1 inch body lift. Its a lot more work that a 4 inch lift though..lol
Right on I was just reading the difference in the basic and the military wrap. Seems worth the extra $
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I'm running a 2" OME lift with high fenders, have 33's could fit 35's.
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I'm running a 2" OME lift with high fenders, have 33's could fit 35's.
What fenders? I am interested in smittybuilt XRC. Would they work?
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What fenders? I am interested in smittybuilt XRC. Would they work?
You'll want something that opens the wheel wells. More

Like TNT customs or metal cloak
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You'll want something that opens the wheel wells. More

Like TNT customs or metal cloak
Right on thanks
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You'll want something that opens the wheel wells. More

Like TNT customs or metal cloak


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These are the smittybuilt xrc tube fenders I was talking about. I thought these did open them up the way you mean.
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These are the smittybuilt xrc tube fenders I was talking about. I thought these did open them up the way you mean.
I am well aware of them I worked for 4wp for a few years. If a tube fender uses the stock inner fender it does not really open up a wheel well. TNT ,metal cloak, Psc, Genright all make tube fenders that push the inner fenderwell back 5 or so inches thus way more clearance Which will be needed for a big tire with little lift not to mention they are better quality. I'm not trying to argue just providing more info from actual facts.
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Right on I didn't mean to come off argumentative. Thats the info I was looking for. Glad I didnt spend thr money on the xrc then because I thought thats what they did. Thanks again!
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I like the Genright High Fender tube fenders, but I am curious about installation. It does say you can retain the inner fender wells, but what about the hood? Looks like a bunch of hood trimming. Anyone installed these?
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Also at Tom95YJ do you think I could fit the 33's with these fenders all around without a lift then? right now I have boomerang shackles on stock springs. Or maybe with a 1" body lift?
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Also at Tom95YJ do you think I could fit the 33's with these fenders all around without a lift then? right now I have boomerang shackles on stock springs. Or maybe with a 1" body lift?
I know with TNT's fenders they advertise 35's on stock suspension
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Wow ok thanks!
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My 33s hit my fender before full flex and I have a 4in lift. In the pic my tire is against the fender and bending the flare and I have room for more flex but I can't because the tire hits fender.
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My 33s hit my fender before full flex and I have a 4in lift. In the pic my tire is against the fender and bending the flare and I have room for more flex but I can't because the tire hits fender.
Good to know. Did you have to extend your bump stops? Im really I to this high fender idea. I was think I'd have to do a lift and flat fenders, but if I can get away with just these high fenders instead I will!
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Good to know. Did you have to extend your bump stops? Im really I to this high fender idea. I was think I'd have to do a lift and flat fenders, but if I can get away with just these high fenders instead I will!
Stock bump stops. I was thinking about doing flat fenders but I may just lift more.
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@gunz n tractorz I've noticed while researching that most lifts that comes as a "complete kit" come with bump stop extensions. I'm sure you could have some stops fabbed up for you pretty cheap, however you know you can flex that far and then limit it with stops.. if I were you I'd like to keep the flex and up the fenders

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