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Old 04-06-2013, 05:39 PM   #1
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Any interest in tactical panels for Jeep YJ? Need some help/suggestions.

I am one of the management staff at BDS Tactical Gear in Oceanside, CA. We manufacture tactical gear for military, government agency and private persons to include chest rigs, plate carriers, medical bags, slings, holsters and belts.
As the owner of a Jeep YJ and someone who was not the least bit pleased with the tactical panels available (Smittybuilt GEAR seat covers) I took measurements of my YJ and am having a set made for my YJ. I am having drivers side and passanger side door panels (the lower section with measurement of 16x6 with 3 rows of PALS (MOLLE) and grommets at all corners and down the center. These will be attached by removing the door panel and bolting them to the door panel.
I am having a dash panel made that will run the length of the dash and be 42x4 inches with two rows of PALS (MOLLE) and attach via either industrial hook/loop (Velcro) or through gromets using some sort of screw (not so sure about that idea).
I am having an 8x6 panel made for the front of my TUFFY center console.
I am also having a 48x32 inch panel that will be attached to the front roll bars and be attached similar in style to the Best Top bikini top. I may actually simply attach this panel to the Best Top bikini top that I already have. I am not entirely sure yet if this will be a standalone piece or need to be used with a bikini top.
I considered panels for the back of the seats, but do not want to use straps to attach them as Smittybuilt did. If someone can determine a better way to attach them to the seat covers short of removing the factory seat covers and sewing them on, then I would be open to the idea.
If you look at my post count you will see I am not just here to make this post. I am not offering anything for sale, either personally or as a representative of the company I work for. I am simply trying to find out if there is a need/desire for items like this before I put any more effort in to this. I know that I will use them, and Im interested to see what others think.

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okay I don't mean to be ignorant.. but i'm a little confused as what your saying? is the PALS molle stuff bullet proof stuff? what is it purpose going to be? not trying to be difficult i'm just curious.

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okay I don't mean to be ignorant.. but i'm a little confused as what your saying? is the PALS molle stuff bullet proof stuff? what is it purpose going to be? not trying to be difficult i'm just curious.
Here you go, I will make it easy for you... Basically I am making these panels so that tactical pouches, holsters, etc. can be attached to the vehicle in a secure manner.

The Pouch Attachment Ladder System (PALS) Tactical Gear System was created by Natick Industries which focuses on Engineering, Development , and Research for the US Army. PALS is an series of heavy duty nylon webbing that can be used to secure smaller items to larger backpack or tactical vest systems. Originally designed to be used in conjunction with MOLLE backpack systems, it is now compatible with a wide variety of both military and civilian products. The system was first introduced in conjunction with the MOLLE fielding in 2001. Because of the popularity of P.A.L.S. in the US military, the British Army, as well as other armed forces around the globe, has begun adapting the system for their own uses.
PALS webbing can be used to secure a variety of objects such as knife sheaths, weapons holsters, ammunition pouches, and radio pockets. The standard PALS grid is comprised of 1″ wide strips of nylon webbing run horizontally, secured to the backing material every 1.5″, and laid 1″ apart. Backing material can be integrated into a variety of items including backpacks and vests.
Since the system is fairly universal, just about any storage item can be modified to be able to attach to it. Also, since there are such a large selection of choices in PALS accessories, the items are available in commercial markets to allow military personnel to completely customize their packs and storage capabilities to suit their exact needs and preferences. Since the Pouch Attachment Ladder System is just a simple webbing based unit, a large selection of items can be used to attach storage pouches and accessories to it. Straps, buckles, clips, and buttons are all types of attachment methods that can be utilized with PALS. The key to a successful method of attaching items to PALS is that the connection be secure as well as easily accessible when detachment is needed.
As with many other products originally designed for milItary use, PALS units, storage pouches, and attachment accessories have gained in popularity among the civilian population and are commonly used by hikers, fishermen, hunters, campers, and other individuals desiring a customizable storage system that is affordable and easy to use.
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I'd be interested in seeing some photos of the final product
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:32 PM   #5
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I would definitely be interested in these things. Im a tac gear nut. I planned on ordering the smittybilt seat covers within the next week or so. Are they not that nice?
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i think the door panels would be nice
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I think it's a neat idea. I would definitely want to see some finished photos... Even though they will probably make those illegal in Maryland next...
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:34 PM   #9
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I would like to see, but don't let Phil see
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Old 04-07-2013, 09:35 PM   #10
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I would also like to see the final product.
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Definitely interested.
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Seems like a cool idea, assuming they were water proof (or at least weather resistant) and had straps in the right places to hold a sufficient amount of gear. Please post more pictures as you get these done. Any idea what the price point will be?
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i think the door panels would be nice
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Well apparently the Product and Development Director is all over this as he mentioned to me today that he found this thread while doing a regular google search for our company name.
I showed him the drawings and concept art and he is interested and is going to work with production to get these made in at least a prototype.
Because of the interest I will get the pics posted as soon as we have this done.
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Post pics when your done dude
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thx man. IMO, the door panels would be the most usable. they dont cover any already used spaces like the dash, and is a natural place to want to store / grab something. be it a phone, light, gun, etc etc etc.
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Here is some Jeep YJ /BDS Tactical eye candy. This is a BDS Tactical Enhanced Combat Trauma Bag attached to the roll bar via 2" side release buckle and the belt. I also have it set up so that a cable can be run through it and around the roll bar to deter theft if I need to leave it in the Jeep when I run in somewhere.
I use it as a full trauma/BOB option since there is 2385 cubic inches of internal storage. I have an additional hydration carrier on the back of the bag, but the hydration bladder can also be inside the bag. Here are the pics:



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Makes me jealous, I cant wait to get my Med Bag back! Although I wouldnt leave it in my jeep like that, it could get stolen WAY too easily!
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I'm also interested, being a military guy I have a lot of gear that would interchange. I know my old man would be interested too. He goes out hunting in the High Desert (Ca) a lot. He'd love to be able to secure all his gear. One of his biggest complaints. He works in L.A. area.


If you need someone to test out how they hold up in The dessert environment I am sure he'd volunteer. Having Both his sons on active duty in the military, I am sure he'd get a kick out of it.


Here he is out scouting for future hunting areas on the "back roads."
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I would be very interested. Hope to see some pictures. I've been looking for a good way to hold a rifle as well.
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Can't wait to see how this one turns out!!!
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I would be very interested. Hope to see some pictures. I've been looking for a good way to hold a rifle as well.
Interesting you mention that... Today I was making a design for a roll bar mounted panel that would accommodate a rifle. It would require the user to obtain two 48" pieces of 1/2 inch rigid pipe/tube/rod of some sort to insert in a sleeve on each side of the panel to add rigidity to the panel. Riffle mounting would be done via PALLS straps that could be placed where ever necessary to mount any number of different rifles.
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Very Interested in all 3 Molle projects. I have 3 friends also very interested in the door skins and a roll bar mounted roof Pals system for hard top owners
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Interesting you mention that... Today I was making a design for a roll bar mounted panel that would accommodate a rifle. It would require the user to obtain two 48" pieces of 1/2 inch rigid pipe/tube/rod of some sort to insert in a sleeve on each side of the panel to add rigidity to the panel. Riffle mounting would be done via PALLS straps that could be placed where ever necessary to mount any number of different rifles.
I am excited about this. I'm planning on joining the marines when I turn 20 and hopefully will be moving down to Oceanside. I don't want to be rude in asking your company's name. I 100% understand but am exteremely interested in your ideas/items ect.

As to your question before if this idea would catch the interest of people, I think it's safe to say, YES! HELL YES!

Keep up the excellent work.
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I posted these pics in another thread on Friday. The first panel I have done is an accessory panel for the Tuffy overhead compartment. It has 8 rows of PALS with 8 sections in each row. I have a triple 5.56 mag pouch and a Super Admin Pouch attached currently. Plenty of room for a knife and radio still.
Should have the door panels done this week if all goes well...
The name of the company is BDS Tactical Gear...

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Interested in this!!! What about a Tailgate option?
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Interested in this!!! What about a Tailgate option?
That and more options for rear roll bars. Maybe something along the lines of each side of the rear seat. Something like MOLLE arm rest(s). Just an idea to throw out there.

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