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Old 01-07-2017, 09:46 PM   #1
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Anyone running 33s with 4.10 or higher?

I still have stock 3.07 but I've come to the point that I need to regear. I will eventually go to 33s and I wanted some advice on which gears I should go to 4.10 or 4.56. I use mine as a daily driver so I'm looking for something good on the highway but can still do some light trailing. I am using 323rd to get me over steep hills and even then I'm in the slow lane. I just want to keep up with everyome else I guess. I'm also going to do a rear axle swap so the gears, everyone says not to invest in the dana35 so I'm either swapping to a 8.8 or d44 so any pointers on that too would be helpful. Thanks everyone
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Anyone running 33s with 4.10 or higher?

4.10's is a great setup for daily driver. I was in the same boat as you a year ago. It's cheaper to do 4.10 also due to the front donor from a 4 cyl yj. The 'feel' with 33's puts it back very close to stock. Unless you have $$ I would do 4.10's, especially if it's mainly a daily driver. I did a 8.8 swap and junkyard front Dana 30 with 4.10 ratio. The whole front was like $350 over here in California. I had east coast gear do a new rebuilt 8.8....I don't ever plan on 35's.


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4.10's is a great setup for daily driver. I was in the same boat as you a year ago. It's cheaper to do 4.10 also due to the front donor from a 4 cyl yj. The 'feel' with 33's puts it back very close to stock. Unless you have $$ I would do 4.10's, especially if it's mainly a daily driver. I did a 8.8 swap and junkyard front Dana 30 with 4.10 ratio. The whole front was like $350 over here in California. I had east coast gear do a new rebuilt 8.8....I don't ever plan on 35's.

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So how would you say the 4.10 ran on 33s on steep inclines? How much did the 8.8 cost you if you don't mind me asking?
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You can spend as little as $600-700 or up near $3000 depending on your add ons...Mine was $2500+ when all was said and done. ARB locker, NEW gears, all new bearings and brakes, solid diff cover. It does fine up hills, but still drop down to 4th. I definately can use 5th gear now.

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I did the 4.10s on mine and love it. I also had the 3.07s with 33s. Now it's perfect for daily driving.
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I'm running 33's on my '91 YJ and just installed a solid axle and Detroit Trutrack in the front end. My mechanic said I have 4.10 gears and that was standard with the 4 cyl. that year. He said the 4.10 is the sweet spot for a daily driver. I have 3 miles (the short way) of un-improved roads to the highway in and out everyday. This setup is working fine for me except for the windy days. No wind or wind at my back and I can cruse up some hills in 5th. Not so good with a head wind.
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[QUOTE=steves92;28563602]You can spend as little as $600-700 or up near $3000 depending on your add ons...Mine was $2500+ when all was said and done. ARB locker, NEW gears, all new bearings and brakes, solid diff cover. It does fine up hills, but still drop down to 4th. I definately can use 5th gear now.

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So does ECGS send you just a plain axle and you put the add ons later?
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Anyone running 33s with 4.10 or higher?

The axle comes 'bolt in ready'. You don't install anything but the complete axle, they do all the upgrades you want. It really is a sweet deal in that regard. I have no re-gear experience so that was a no brainer for me. Not saying I couldn't do it but it takes time and proper tools and most of all experience! I went with the NEW gear option because they replace all bearings and comes with a 5 yr warranty, I believe. I just dropped the old out and installed the new. No problems what so ever. I'm very happy with it


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You can spend as little as $600-700 or up near $3000 depending on your add ons...Mine was $2500+ when all was said and done. ARB locker, NEW gears, all new bearings and brakes, solid diff cover. It does fine up hills, but still drop down to 4th. I definately can use 5th gear now.

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So does ECGS send you just a plain axle and you put the add ons later?
^^^ beat me to it! lol

No. You order it set up the way you want it and they build it for you.
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Here the link to their YJ 8.8 set-up/order page:
Complete Ford 8.8" Rear Axle Assembly Jeep YJ Ready to Bolt In Axle Swap
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Go to their website and read up on it. They have very informative info and it clarifies everything. There are drop downs for the add ones and you can see the price change as you add on upgrades$$. I recommend the solid diff cover if you do any wheeling, it's thick! You can do used gears to keep the cost down and limited slip if you don't do any crawling. I hear a lot of people like it with a lunchbox locker up front and can go a lot of places


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Go 4.56 that way when you goto 35's your gearing will work well with 35s also. Its only 500 rpm difference cruising speed on hiway and offroad the extra grunt is nice too
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Anyone running 33s with 4.10 or higher?

^^^I knew that was coming!! You will have to buy new gears for the front and labor costs to have them done too. Just Empty Every Pocket haha


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I found some axles on Craigslist last year out of a 4 cylinder yj that had 4.10's in them. I installed a new limited slip in the rear diff and put them in my Jeep when I went to 32's. Whole set up cost me about $500. Glad I did, because it drives great on and off road!
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I liked my Jeep with 4.10 gears and 33s. The 4.0 and 5 speed were very easy to drive on road. Off road you'll probably be wanting a little more gear reduction if you have a manual, but it's still a great combo. On highway, 5th gear at 65-70mph would hold around 2000-2200RPM, small hills no problem. If I hit a good size hill, then I'd usually need 4th gear.

With 35s, 4.10 gets to be a bit of a stretch, I ended up going to 5.13 gears. At 65MPH I hit around 2500-2600 RPM.
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Go 4.56 that way when you goto 35's your gearing will work well with 35s also. Its only 500 rpm difference cruising speed on hiway and offroad the extra grunt is nice too
100% agree with Tom
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4.56 gears for sure that's what I installed on mine you can down the highway like you have your stock size tire
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Has anyone here just regeared their d35? After talking with the 4wheel parts shop and a new axle regeared and new front gears it's costing me close to 7k. What's everyone think of me just keeping the d35 and regear it, I'll still get new bearings and bushings. I am only using my it as a daily driver anyway..
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Anyone running 33s with 4.10 or higher?

That's crazy! Have you taken it to other shops? Might as well buy another jeep with that same ratio and lift/tires? Not sure what ratio you decided to go with but that sounds really overpriced. 8.8 bolt in ready is less than half of that and much stronger. Put the $ into one of those, not a stock rear end. I haven't priced them personally to have existing axles regeared, I upgraded per everyone's recommendations and got a junkyard front with 4.10's. $2700 + $350=$3050 for both ready to bolt in plus my labor to swap. Not sure what all is envolved going to 4.56 and that may be more costly. If it's a daily driver I would keep it simple but stout. Save your $


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That's crazy! Have you taken it to other shops? Might as well buy another jeep with that same ratio and lift/tires? Not sure what ratio you decided to go with but that sounds really overpriced. 8.8 bolt in ready is less than half of that and much stronger. Put the $ into one of those, not a stock rear end. I haven't priced them personally to have existing axles regeared, I upgraded per everyone's recommendations and got a junkyard front with 4.10's. $2700 + $350=$3050 for both ready to bolt in plus my labor to swap. Not sure what all is envolved going to 4.56 and that may be more costly. If it's a daily driver I would keep it simple but stout. Save your $

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Couldn't agree more! 7k sounds like a ripoff unless those axles are gold plated!!!
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I agree but I'm not to familiar with any other off road shops in my area. I asked the guy for an already assembled d44 that comes geared at the ratio I want, 4.10, and an eaton e locker and disc brakes. I told him to just match the front gears with same ratio and updated carrier. The labor for front and rear came around 1k the other is the parts. The axle was about 3k and some change, I estimate a price off ECGS for an 8.8 axle and with shipping it was almost the same price so I figured go with the local store. That's why I wanted to know what you guys thought of just regearing the d35.
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Why not put a lunchbox locker in a donor front Dana 30 and 8.8? Cost under $1000 for the front.


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I have 33's with 4.56 and can cruise 75 mph down the freeway no problem and wheels great too.
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Hey smitty, what rpm are you hitting at 75? I to like the OP are trying to decide on a gear ratio.
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A great resource for finding info on tire size or gear changes is to go to "Grimmjeeper.com/gears. They have a great ratio finder that is very informative. Dave
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I put my gears and ox locker in last year but did the work myself. The shop in town said for me he would do it but never got it priced. Read alot and decided to do it myself. Turned out great far as I can tell it is rite in spec. It took time and patience and some learning but once you figure it all out I'm not scared of it now. Total cost was with two master rebuild kits 4.56 gears for Dana 30 and 35 and a ox for the front axle. And the Guage to set them we already had the press and bearing pulling tool. The total was 1,700 dollars
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I do plan on setting up a 8.8 with a ox and 4.56 gears maybe next year for the rear but that will be next year. This year I'm putting a 0 mile 4.2 together.
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A great resource for finding info on tire size or gear changes is to go to "Grimmjeeper.com/gears. They have a great ratio finder that is very informative. Dave
This is 8 days after yjdave's post, but here's the link:
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I just got some prices for an 8.8 rear, regeared to 4.56, with elocker, regear front to match, parts and labor was about 3200. I think instead I will go the 4.10 route, and do a LSD rear and elocker up front, and save for a rear e-locker down the road. My 4.2 doesnt like to rev really high and I dont plan on going higher than 33s.
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There are 8.8 out there with 4.10 and Limited slip...you want a D42 axel code when your looking at the door tag...the pumpkin will have 2 tags, one will have the gear ratio, the other has an oil spec for the LS.

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