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Old 11-26-2012, 03:22 PM   #1
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I've got the body as protected as I think it needs (tube fenders, front and rear big bumpers, rocker guards, reinforced plate, soon to be finished full cage) and am now considering what to do to the underside to protect the most important mechanical parts.

Obviously I have the gas tank skid plate and the t-case/tranny skid plate already. What else should I buy/build/etc?

Consider that the long term goal is to do some rock crawling so I want to be sure anything that could be damaged easily by rocks is protected. Thoughts?

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are the gas tank and transfer case skids the stock ones?
if so, start there. the stock gas tank skid leaves much to be desired, along with the stock transfer case skid. with as built up as the rest of your jeep will be, it would be nice if those two areas were up to par with everything else.
after those, a engine/transmission skid is good. something that spans the distance from the transfer case skid up to protect the oil pan. after that, it might be a good idea to pick up a steering box skid. you may never need one, but they are pretty cheap, and it is just a little bit of added insurance.

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Old 11-27-2012, 05:23 AM   #4
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All of my stuff is stock right now underneath. Good suggestions, all!
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:24 AM   #5
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Got those already. I went with "Solid" brand as they were 1/4" thick and had ridges for stability.

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Old 11-27-2012, 07:50 AM   #6
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Upgrade the undercarriage stock skids. That's my suggestion.
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Upgrade the undercarriage stock skids. That's my suggestion.
Just ordered the Barnes 4x4 1/4" thick "belly up" skid plate for $120.
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Don't forget an oil pan skid plate. Even better to get one that ties into the "belly up" skid. Maybe some u bolt skids too.

Edit: schnutzy beat me to the oil pan/engine skid
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undercover fab works has some nice stuff. check them out line.
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Just ordered the Barnes 4x4 1/4" thick "belly up" skid plate for $120.
let me know what all u had to do for the install
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let me know what all u had to do for the install
Will do! I'll be updating this post with pictures as I do it. From what I got out of Barnes, the bolt holes are already in place on the sides to mount it up. Apparently, you just have to mark and drill wherever your trans and t-case bolt in because there is no existing hole for that.

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Will do! I'll be updating this post with pictures as I do it. From what I got out of Barnes, the bolt holes are already in place on the sides to mount it up. Apparently, you just have to mark and drill wherever your trans and t-case bolt in because there is no existing hole for that.

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Good choice, that's what I run. You can't buy the steel to make it locally for what Barnes sells it for and that thing is pure beef. For those that are wondering, they don't have transmount holes because they want to make it a universal application to include the guys who run something different from a AX-5/15/NP231 setup.
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I just ordered a Barnes skid for my 5.3l TJ build. My tranny is 2" forward from stock and this was most practical option as stock skid had some rough spots. For mount I'm cutting off stock part and going to gusset and weld that to the new one to have recessed spot so no bolts hanging down.
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All of you guys running the Barnes skid, are you using the 2" drop plate? Or the flat?
If using the 2" drop, how much clearance did you gain?
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I got the barnes Flat, because I already had a huge body lift.
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A steering box skid-plate wouldn't hurt, that's the first thing that would get contacted on a steep angle of approach
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A steering box skid-plate wouldn't hurt, that's the first thing that would get contacted on a steep angle of approach
Got one of those too. I think the only thing I'm missing now is the gas tank skid. I have the stock one. Everything else on this list is bought and ready to install.

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I'm running the 2" drop plate. It is an additional inch of clearance over stock. I would have preferred to have run the flat, but my Jeep wouldn't fit in the garage running an additional body lift which is needed to run that particular skid.

Denis, I never bothered with an aftermarket gas tank skid when I previously ran the stock tank before I changed over to an RCI fuel cell. I did pretty heavy rock crawling even on my previous setup and the stock fuel skid held up fine.

I installed one of these a while back for my oil pan skid when they went on clearance last year. Surprisingly they apparently still have them available. Originally said for TJ only, but I did a test fit and it is a direct bolt in for a YJ 4.0/AX-15, so they changed the listing. Cheap protection for $25.

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I don't believe that HD Steering has been listed yet. With the body lift all ready on I would just cut the factory gas tank skid and bring it up as high as you can then reweld it back together. I have had the entire weight of the jeep on the factory skid with only minor denting.
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I don't believe that HD Steering has been listed yet. With the body lift all ready on I would just cut the factory gas tank skid and bring it up as high as you can then reweld it back together. I have had the entire weight of the jeep on the factory skid with only minor denting.
x2 on that...having mine done by a buddy that has a jeep shop locally and he is tucking mine up almost 2 inches with my 1" body lift, and then plating the skid with 1/8 inch plate steel with drain holes. $120
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I'm running the 2" drop plate. It is an additional inch of clearance over stock. I would have preferred to have run the flat, but my Jeep wouldn't fit in the garage running an additional body lift which is needed to run that particular skid.

Denis, I never bothered with an aftermarket gas tank skid when I previously ran the stock tank before I changed over to an RCI fuel cell. I did pretty heavy rock crawling even on my previous setup and the stock fuel skid held up fine.

I installed one of these a while back for my oil pan skid when they went on clearance last year. Surprisingly they apparently still have them available. Originally said for TJ only, but I did a test fit and it is a direct bolt in for a YJ 4.0/AX-15, so they changed the listing. Cheap protection for $25.

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Whats the minimum body lift to run the flat belly skid? I have a 1" lift, and starting to piece together the items I need for a tummy tuck.
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Whats the minimum body lift to run the flat belly skid? I have a 1" lift, and starting to piece together the items I need for a tummy tuck.
I'm investigating a tummy tuck to see if it makes sense for me. I would really like to have a flat skid plate.

Did you ever figure out what you need?
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All of my stuff is stock right now underneath. Good suggestions, all!
https://barnes4wd.com/Jeep-Skid-Plates_c_50.html

Theese are AWESOME!
Im getting the 2" as soon as I have all the pieces for my 5.2 or 4.7L swap (not sure which V8 im going to run yet...)...

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Just ordered the Barnes 4x4 1/4" thick "belly up" skid plate for $120.
OMG, I really should read the WHOLE thread before I post, Good choice!

As far as those asking about this skid, there are a number of comments on the Barnes 4x4 post about this, along with TONS of installed pics...
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/barne...id-plates.html

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Is there an aluminum option?
If so, shipped to 95401
Interested for a 90 YJ 2" drop


Barnes 4wd
I only have steel.
From NC to CA the shipping would be 44.17
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STILL cheaper then buying the raw materials and making it myself here....
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I'm investigating a tummy tuck to see if it makes sense for me. I would really like to have a flat skid plate.

Did you ever figure out what you need?
You dont need a body lift for a flat belly. I have no body lift. And stock floorboards. Just needed to clearance a fww things off the bottom of the tub.
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You dont need a body lift for a flat belly. I have no body lift. And stock floorboards. Just needed to clearance a fww things off the bottom of the tub.
Pics please, I was going with the 2" but would rather have the flat.
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Pics please, I was going with the 2" but would rather have the flat.
I'll get some pics of mine installed tonight. My t-case is *really* close to the body now, with the 3" body lift I have. I used a new poly tranny mount to the t-case to keep it off the plate and that added 2" to the bottom of the tranny and case, but that said I only have may be 1.5" or so of clearance between the t-case and the tub now.

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hows the drive shaft look? did u do a mml?
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hows the drive shaft look? did u do a mml?
Drive shafts aren't in yet. See my other threat about that whole mess. Should have my rear shaft in next week and the front shaft in the week after that. At least with the rear in, I can drive it.

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I'm looking at these barnes skids also, I have a 1" BL and am wondering if thats enough to do the flat? I'm guessing its not bc the Undercover fab 2" one says at least 1" BL recomended. So Im assuming the Barnes 2" one is for a 1" BL also. can anyone confim whos running these confirm this?
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I'll get some pics of mine installed tonight. My t-case is *really* close to the body now, with the 3" body lift I have. I used a new poly tranny mount to the t-case to keep it off the plate and that added 2" to the bottom of the tranny and case, but that said I only have may be 1.5" or so of clearance between the t-case and the tub now.

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3" BL? no thanks, Dude said he did it with NO BL, and STOCK floorboards, i want his pics!

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