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Old 08-02-2010, 11:46 PM   #1
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Chilton's vs Haynes Manuals?

There's plenty of things that can be corrected and understood with a good manual and a little bit of instruction.

My question is, have you had better experience with a Chilton's manual or a Haynes manual?

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Old 08-03-2010, 08:09 AM   #2
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Chiltons is better in my opinion, but get the Service manual CD's. Much greater detail.

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Old 08-03-2010, 08:18 AM   #3
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I currently on have a Haynes manual, but it has been pretty accurate thus far....I cannot compare the two.

I do have access to the service manual CD's and consult them as well, been looking to get a set of them myself, just havent done so yet.
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Where can you get the CDs? Are they sold somewhere?
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:20 PM   #5
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i have both for my yj and I prefer Chilton because they have a YJ specific book while Haynes covers YJ and TJ and is less detailed imo
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Old 08-03-2010, 07:28 PM   #6
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Neither. Get an Factory Service Manual. I have a Haynes for my Dodge Ram and I am shocked by the lack of information in it. I was burned once by some bad info in a Chilton manual.

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Old 08-03-2010, 09:57 PM   #7
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I respect your advice coyote_94yj, but I can't afford $139.99 for a 1991Wrangler YJ Service Manual right now.
Any other options?
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Ummm yes, check your Private messages inbox.

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coyote you got one for a 93
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How about a book recommendation for someone like me that is totally clueless about my Jeep? Chilton's? Something else? A combination of things?
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Andrea,
The Haynes manuals run about $25-30, they cover the basic stuff....Chiltons manuals are great, a little harder to fiind sometimes, and the YJ Service manual has everything. I would start with the Haynes manual, found at autozone etc., if you have a tougher question try on here!!
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Thanks Chuck. I had a feeling from the posts above that a service manual might be *best* but I might not get that into it, ya know? But I don't like being ignorant either. You say that Chiltons is great but hard to find and recommended the Haynes. Do you recommend Haynes over Chiltons simply due to ease of locating? If Chiltons would be better for me, I don't mind the hunt for it. I'm slow about acquiring anything anyway.
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Chiltons are a little more $$$ than Haynes, I have had really good luck with Haynes, so I would start there. I usually read about whatever I am going to be working on first, then come here and ask the smart folks what to look out for anyways. This forum has helped out bunches!
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First picked up a Haynes because it was the only one available locally. Got the Chilton's because it is specific to the YJ and it is better than the Haynes. Quadratec has them...here's the link. Pretty decent for the $$.

Haynes/Chilton Manuals 40650 - Chilton's Repair Manual for 87-95 Jeep® Wrangler YJ - Quadratec
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Well, if you are really and truly totally clueless then you might want to start with just understanding the basics of an automobile, that is if you really want to learn to do your own work.

There is a book that I had used when I was going through my technical training that I think you might benefit from. It is kind of on the expensive side($77 at Amazon) but well worth it. The book is called Modern Automotive Technology written by James E. Duffy. Combine that with a Factory Service Manual and you should be all set.

EDIT: It also depends on how much you want to do on your jeep. The book might be overkill but still it makes a great reference tool.
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Thanks everyone. I wouldn't say that I necessarily want to do my own work but I would like to just learn and understand some mechanics. Might be a good brain exercise for a while and who knows? Maybe I'll get into it. I wanted to do the same thing years back with my VW but I never did. I didn't love my beetle as much as I love my Jeep

Something like you mentioned, Coyote, might be good. I wondered if a jeep repair manual would really help me just learn or guide me through repairs I don't want to do and still have me clueless, haha. I like to understand what my mechanic is talking about and would dig being able to do some basic things. My Dad said he'll teach me simple things like about spark plugs and such. I would also like being able to read more of the threads on the forum and have some background info so that it's not all a foreign language to me!
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I found this online........free .pdf file of my particular model.....seems to be the factory service manual......


http://www.rol.ac.psiweb.com/jeep/tj_03/TJ_03.pdf



I find what I need......print that page.....and save it to a 3 ring binder. I am slowly building a shop manual.
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The book I recommended is a text book for learning the concepts and applications of things where as the FSM, Chilton and Haynes repair manuals just show you how to do a job.
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Here is a good example of how clueless I am. Coyote, I see your sig. line. I know what 4 spd / auto are. I get the 12" But Chevy 355 and 2.5 L mean NOTHING to me! And I feel like that should just be common knowledge in the car world!
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Modern Automotive Technology written by James E. Duffy
The community college lists it for sale through their bookshop, I may post a wanted for hobby learning flyer at the college!
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Here is a good example of how clueless I am. Coyote, I see your sig. line. I know what 4 spd / auto are. I get the 12" But Chevy 355 and 2.5 L mean NOTHING to me! And I feel like that should just be common knowledge in the car world!
LOL. Sorry I shouldn't laugh. Chevy 355 basically refers to the engine make and size. It is made by Chevy and is 355 cubic inches in size. The 2.5L is the same thing only measured in liters. It is 2.5 liters in size which converts to 153 cubic inches where as the 355 equals 5.8 liters.

But yes, if you plan on doing any sort of maintenance on your vehicles those are things you need to know.
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Oh no, it is pretty funny! I know my YJ has an iron duke, I think I was told it is a 4 cyl but that's like speaking in tongues to me. hehe. And I have the sales flyer from the JK still so I could figure out what it has!
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I have used both books for several different machines. They are both valuable, better than winging it. It's better to go by a check list rather than to end up with bonus parts.
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Well, if you are really and truly totally clueless then you might want to start with just understanding the basics of an automobile...
I originated this post, and I've learned that "Manuals" are great for changing the oil and a tutorial for basic engine maintenance.

If you haven't worked on a engine before; like changing spark plugs and a Distributor Cap - proper oil change directions, etc...

Then buy a Manual. It will be very useful!
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coyote_94yj -

I originated this post, and I've learned that "Manuals" are great for changing the oil and a tutorial for basic engine maintenance.

If you haven't worked on a engine before; like changing spark plugs and a Distributor Cap - proper oil change directions, etc...

Then buy a Manual. It will be very useful!
Yes, you are right. However that is not necessarily what GAFahy is after.
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Thanks everyone. I wouldn't say that I necessarily want to do my own work but I would like to just learn and understand some mechanics. Might be a good brain exercise for a while and who knows? Maybe I'll get into it. I wanted to do the same thing years back with my VW but I never did. I didn't love my beetle as much as I love my Jeep

Something like you mentioned, Coyote, might be good. I wondered if a jeep repair manual would really help me just learn or guide me through repairs I don't want to do and still have me clueless, haha. I like to understand what my mechanic is talking about and would dig being able to do some basic things. My Dad said he'll teach me simple things like about spark plugs and such. I would also like being able to read more of the threads on the forum and have some background info so that it's not all a foreign language to me!
She is more after an understanding of how things work. That you cannot get from a repair manual.

A perfect example is the engine. The manual will tell you how to maintain it and for the most part how to rebuild it, but it won't tell you how it works.
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I found the Chilton's much more accurate.
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It seems to me that the repair manual is as hard to find as an ax5 that will shift into gear when cold. I found this site when searching for Haynes vs. Chiltons when I saw someone on Amazon.com ragging on Chiltons lack of detail. I was hoping anyone on here would have a link to a credible source for getting a copy of the elusive service manual cd for an 89 yj. I can't get it in reverse anymore. I was going to do a sbc/sm465 swap this winter, but a leaky roof on my house an garage killed all of my fun money. So I'm going to try to tear out the trans and figure it out. I appreciate the help in advance.
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I have a chiltons... got it on amazon for like $35. i like it a lot! tons of useful info!
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DOWNLOAD: Jeep Wrangler 1987 1995 Factory Repair Service Manual Fsm

Try this one cost 20 bucks but there is a ton of info
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DOWNLOAD: Jeep Wrangler 1987 1995 Factory Repair Service Manual Fsm

Try this one cost 20 bucks but there is a ton of info

That site looks a little shady... have you used it before?

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