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Old 06-08-2006, 03:09 PM   #1
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I have a 3" body lift, and it just doesn't seem like its enough. I've been looking into Rough Country's 4" suspension lift. At what point does a guy need bigger axles and a bigger motor?

If I did somehow get the lift, I would stick on some 37" Iroks, and eventually get a 350. What size axles does a guy need with this setup? No hardcore off-roading, just trails, I want to look like a badass on the road.

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Old 06-08-2006, 03:18 PM   #2
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I think that in order to fit 37" tires you are going to need at least 6" of lift, maybe more. As far as the axles and motor go I am not really sure but there's someone on here that will answer that.

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Old 06-08-2006, 03:25 PM   #3
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If you want to run 37" tires, you will need a 6" suspension lift, and a 2" body lift. You will need at least dana 44's or I would even go with Ford 9" axles. That would be the minimum. As far as your motor is concerned, I have seen guys with 4 bangers run 44" tires. It is all done with gearing. If you have a 6 banger, you will need at least 4.88 gears. If you are running a 4 banger, you will probably need 5.16 gears in you diff. Does that help any?
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:33 PM   #4
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bigger tires

The main reason that most people like to drop in the V8"s is because you can get lower geared transmissions. For instance one of the favorites is the SM 465 transmission because it has a very low first gear. Something like 6.65:1 ratio in first gear. That compensates a lot for the gearing. You can run 42" tires with a V8 with that transmission, with only a 3.8:1 ratio in the transfer case, with only 4.56 gears in the diffs. The V8 will handle that with ease. It all has to do with the final crawl ratio of your set up. Go to Novak's website, under General Knowledge, and you can plug in all of your gear ratio's into a program that will give you your final crawl ratio. It is very entertaining to say the least.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:39 PM   #5
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One more thing, you can do a lot with getting a t-case that is also geared lower in the low side. I got a Stak Monster t-case, from El Paso, Tx, that has 3 different gear ratio's. The lowest is 5.44:1, the intermediate ratio is, 3.65:1, and of course the highest ratio is the standard 1:1. You will need to figure out how low you want to crawl to set it up right. The factory t-case is not very low on the low side. Only the Rubicon comes with a 4:1 ratio in 4 low. It is something like 2.73:1 in any other wrangler.
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Old 06-08-2006, 03:44 PM   #6
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Forgot your other question. If you do drop in a V8, I would recommend putting a Dana-60 up front, and a Dana-70, or equivalent, in the rear.

Nothing a bunch of dead presidents can't handle..........lol

In other words, a lot of money.

And then you will need to worry about hydraulic steering, or at least hydraulic assist. Otherwise, you won't be able to turn those big tires. If you go full hydraulic, you will not be able to get it inspected. There has to be a mechanical hook up to your steering, to be on the road. And by what you have said, you are more interested in being a pavement princess, so the hydraulic assist is what you will want.

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I have a 3" body lift, and it just doesn't seem like its enough. I've been looking into Rough Country's 4" suspension lift. At what point does a guy need bigger axles and a bigger motor?

If I did somehow get the lift, I would stick on some 37" Iroks, and eventually get a 350. What size axles does a guy need with this setup? No hardcore off-roading, just trails, I want to look like a badass on the road.
that would be quite a set up for "just trails"....lots of money and lots of Jeep just to be "badass on the road."

your signature: "Just a teenager with a straight black YJ runnin' 33s."

Sounds like you have a good looking Jeep now.
IMHO, save some money for college, build your Jeep slow and safe ( just the maternal point of view)
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pavement princess is the greatest thing i have ever heard
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pavement princess is the greatest thing i have ever heard
Ouch. =[
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Old 06-09-2006, 04:35 PM   #10
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pavement princess is the greatest thing i have ever heard
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nothing wrong with that...we all want our Jeeps to look good, make a statement & turn heads, whether it's our daily driver or weekend trailer toy.

yj_1988, you stated "it didn't seem high enough"
I had a 3" lift w/33's. Just added a BB and 1" BL...it looks pretty hot. The 33's don't look out of place either. I'm waiting on new drive shafts (Tues delivery). I'll get some pics up soon and see what you think.
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I'm waiting on new drive shafts (Tues delivery). I'll get some pics up soon and see what you think.
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Old 06-09-2006, 11:38 PM   #13
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Jeep parts are so much more practical than flowers, jewelry, etc................lol.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:43 AM   #14
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Too bad it costs a lot more.
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Well, my drunk friend is an idiot and deleted what I had typed, so bare with me. I was reading around the internet, researching different lift kits and stuff. I stumbled across SOA, and a certain kit offering 7.5" of lift, while a few SUA lifts offer 6". Can a veteran explain to me the advantages/disadvantages of the two lifts.
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Old 06-11-2006, 04:17 AM   #16
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This is my 94.
It has about 5.5" of lift and 35s.
How much clearance do you see in the back (Trimed) fender wells...not much is correct. Unless you are planning on taking the Sawzall to your fenders you will need more than 6" of lift to stuff 37's under your YJ.


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