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Old 12-03-2008, 07:26 AM   #1
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got new lift have Q's

just got my 4 rough country lift. and since this is just going to be a trail rig. i thought i would leave the bump stops and track bars off. what are your thoughts on this is it a bad idea. i thought more flex would be better.
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Bump stops you will be OK as long as you do not have rubbing issues with your fenders. Track bars are a vital part of your suspension, you cannot remove them. If you are referring to your Sway bars you will probably be OK if its a trail only rig, but even then most people leave the rear bar connected. If you do any road/street or higher speed off-road driving you will miss the sway bars.
Are you sure...remember he has leaf springs.

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Old 12-03-2008, 10:43 AM   #3
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Are you sure...remember he has leaf springs.
Oops............. ignore my post. I didn't even notice It was a YJ thread.

I deleted it so as not to confuse.
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Are you sure...remember he has leaf springs.
LOL.. You don't have to be a d!ck about it. LOL


You should be just fine without the bumpstops and tracbars and swaybars. I do use sway bars because I like how it handles on my jeep (12in lift) but I have disconnects for the trail.

Without the bumpstops theres a chance the tire will make contact with the fenders and possibly cause sheet metal damage. Especially on the front.
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I was waiting for your response.

Not being a diOk just a reminder I almost did the same thing 4point did.

But yeah if the OP drive on pavement quite a bit I'd leave the front swaybar on for handling reasons, Tracbars are not needed nor' is the rear swaybar as coyote mentioned.

I'd also probally leave the bumpstops on. If it's like most of the YJ's I've seen. It will help you keep your front fenders. Plus the bumps will fall off over time anyway.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:25 AM   #6
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I was waiting for your response.

Not being a diOk just a reminder I almost did the same thing 4point did.

But yeah if the OP drive on pavement quite a bit I'd leave the front swaybar on for handling reasons, Tracbars are not needed nor' is the rear swaybar as coyote mentioned.

I'd also probally leave the bumpstops on. If it's like most of the YJ's I've seen. It will help you keep your front fenders. Plus the bumps will fall off over time anyway.
I only had to remove 2 bump stops as the other 2 had already fallen off.

To the best of my knowledge YJ's don't have rear swaybars just tracbars. I'm sure that's what you meant.
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You should be just fine without the bumpstops and tracbars and swaybars. I do use sway bars because I like how it handles on my jeep (12in lift) but I have disconnects for the trail.
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I only had to remove 2 bump stops as the other 2 had already fallen off.

To the best of my knowledge YJ's don't have rear swaybars just tracbars. I'm sure that's what you meant.
I've never seen a YJ with a rear swaybar but I was going off your comment. Notice the "S" on the end of the red word.

Geez what a d$*k
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Get technical why don't ya.. OK Swaybar <---SINGULAR)
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Get technical why don't ya.. OK Swaybar <---SINGULAR)
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:10 PM   #10
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back to helpin this dude out...

just disconnect the front swaybar and you will notice a considerable difference offroad, and wont effect your onroad as much as you would think it would
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I noticed a fair amount of lean when driving with the swaybar disco'ed That was before AND after various sizes of lift. Some people aren't bothered by it and others are. Just depends. I'm one that doesn't like the lean.
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Old 12-03-2008, 01:50 PM   #12
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That rough country won't flex enough to hit anything anyway,you do not need the stops.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:55 PM   #13
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ok thanks. i got rid of the sway bar the first day i had it. could not tell it was gone. i do like my fenders. so i may run bump stops. i will try it with and with out the track bars. if it's scarry than i'll put them back on.

That rough country won't flex enough to hit anything anyway,you do not need the stops.

you mabey right. but i have little money so for 475.00 let it be rough.
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If you want to save money do a spring over. About half the $$ you spent. That's if your factory springs were still good.
There is nothing wrong with rough country probably best out there, for bang for buck.
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If you want to save money do a spring over. About half the $$ you spent. That's if your factory springs were still good.
There is nothing wrong with rough country probably best out there, for bang for buck.
not true.
the amount of parts needed to do a spring over "right" is costly, not to mention ya gotta be able to weld or its a labor nightmare.

rough country is bottom of the barrel dude.

ran 2 RC lifts b4, RE and skyjacker put it to shame.
lifted 5 tj/yj too, not to mention 1/2 ton trucks,

RC is ok, cheap price, cheap quality
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spring perches,shocks,brake lines. t/c lowering. you do not count your labor. not that expensive. I have done many.
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spring perches,shocks,brake lines. t/c lowering. you do not count your labor. not that expensive. I have done many.
you need a SAFE steering set up, and the tc lowering aint gunna cut it dude.
you need an sye kit and cv d/s.

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good come back brah...

on my 5th lifted wrangler, 2 of which were soa conversions.
i may be a newbie to the site, but not for jeep tech.
but thanks for tryin ta bash me.

i was merely letting the OP know that getting himself into an soa conversion is not so cut and dry.

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Dude if your hackin off your old bump stops. let me know if you want to sell them I need some mine are gone
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good come back brah...

on my 5th lifted wrangler, 2 of which were soa conversions.
i may be a newbie to the site, but not for jeep tech.
but thanks for tryin ta bash me.

i was merely letting the OP know that getting himself into an soa conversion is not so cut and dry.

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Heads up for both of you. Bashing is highly looked down upon on this forum. Disagreements are fine, But keep it civil.
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I'll step in to back up Distorted on this since I have the fancy badge. Civility and newbie friendly is one of the things we pride ourselves on here at WF. We only set up the ring in OT, and even there we require gloves
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track bars are a waste of time.....i dont even run any on my tj.....get them off your yj
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track bars are a waste of time.....i dont even run any on my tj.....get them off your yj
For offroad use? Or on road use? Please elaborate. Without triangulated 3 or 4 link it's still safe to run down the highway safely at 65mph without trackbars on a TJ ?

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ive got double triangulated front and three link wishbone rear with hydro steering(takes any wobble that would happen out of it).......i wouldnt say safe but i do it......its all custom made by me and is not that bad of a ride.....i dont do it often so im just making a lil joke but i think trackbars on yjs are a waste of time if all of your bolts are tight on your springs and your bushings are good
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ive got double triangulated front and three link wishbone rear with hydro steering(takes any wobble that would happen out of it).......i wouldnt say safe but i do it......its all custom made by me and is not that bad of a ride.....i dont do it often so im just making a lil joke but i think trackbars on yjs are a waste of time if all of your bolts are tight on your springs and your bushings are good
Thanks for clairifing. Didn't want the TJ guys thinking it's safe to run without trac bars down the highway.

But yes on a YJ they are pretty pointless on or off road.
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yeah a regular tj with no track bars looks funny......the wheels dont steer......the body just moves back and forth.......first time i saw it was after dropping off of upper 2 at tellico and my buddy ripped his off that crappy axle mount that we all have/had....he couldnt figure out why he couldnt steer
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Ditch the bars front and rear and you will be fine. My bumpstops have been long gone, the one that didn't fall apart I help the rest of the way. I will admit the old RC kits had major spring issues (going flat) but they have redone their springs and they are much better. Got access to a RTI ramp or a major flex spot? Test your clearance for the bumpstops if you can. It is better to get the drop than to flop. Hope I helped.
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