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Old 01-04-2017, 01:06 PM
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Hard Top on YJ that has OEM Soft Top

I've never had a hard top before, so I have no idea what the differences are in mounting brackets and seals. Is there a difference? Anything in particular that I should pay attention to? I just got a factory hard top today, but I want to see if you guys could give me an idea of what the differences are. It would save me some time and effort when I get off work and start trying to put this thing on my Jeep.

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I got some 2" wide weatherstrip at HD and stuck a double layer to the bottom lip of the top so that it sealed tight against the tub.
My soft doors had rounded corners but still didn't fit correctly in the curve of the hard top. I ended up with fiberglass windows on my half doors.
If you have full steel doors you should have no trouble there.
My hardtop came with a seal (3 piece- one long and two ends) at the windshield frame.
You will have to remove the metal strips that hold the soft top to the tub.

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Matt what year yj do you have. When I seal mine which is A 93, I use a 3/4 in taped backing insulation ( Closed cell) around the tub. and also for where the front of the hard top attaches to the windshield. Mine was originally pop riveted on to seal, but I use screws as per photo. Some have locking mechanisms to latchdown the top. I hope this helps
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I put a HT on mine it was OEM soft top. All above is good advice...once you get the soft top frame off everything should line up. You will have to drill across the top of the windshield, don't forget to remove the soft top lip across the windshield too. I inserted threaded rivets so the holes don't get wallared out over time. Hooking up the harness is a whole different story...takes a different harness than installed in the soft top..I just sourced a harness and double motor washer bottle should have them by EOM...getting the light, wipers, and defrost working should be interesting..lol
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Remember there is a Smart relay near your E Brake peddle that supplies electrical to the rear defogger and rear windshield wiper and the rear dome light. If you have to replace it can be costly. Rock auto wanted almost $125.00 for it I got mine From Jeeperz Creapers for $44.00 shipped. Just check around if you need it
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Thank you for the advice everyone!


Got home from work and pulled of the soft top hardware. HT went on perfectly, but it is just "there" for now. I put in a few of the bolts that was from the ST hardware to keep it from growing legs, but it will need longer bolts once I put in some weather stripping. Plus the dash is out, gotta wait for that before I secure it or I'll end up doing it twice.

The bolts for the front piece of the ST did not want to come out. I'm guessing that the nut inserts broke on almost all them. Oh well.

I'm not too worried about the rear defrost, but the rear wiper would be nice to have. I'm sure I can make something that will work. I've already completely redone the engine and power distribution harnesses using the harness from my donor bronco (it has a 5.0). So this will be a cake walk.
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Assuming you want to occasionally put the soft top back on, or use a bikini top, if you cut out the rib on the front of the hard top for the windshield frame seal, the hard top will fit over the soft top channel. To replace that seal, I used some generic 3/4 foam door/window compressible weather seal from Home Depot/Lowes.

If you really want it off, I'd just drill or grind the screw heads off.
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Matt what year yj do you have. When I seal mine which is A 93, I use a 3/4 in taped backing insulation ( Closed cell) around the tub. and also for where the front of the hard top attaches to the windshield. Mine was originally pop riveted on to seal, but I use screws as per photo. Some have locking mechanisms to latchdown the top. I hope this helps
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My YJ is a 92, same color as yours it seems. Latches would be nice, but I'll probably just use screws to keep it simple. Would have to use tools to switch everything out anyways
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Assuming you want to occasionally put the soft top back on, or use a bikini top, if you cut out the rib on the front of the hard top for the windshield frame seal, the hard top will fit over the soft top channel. To replace that seal, I used some generic 3/4 foam door/window compressible weather seal from Home Depot/Lowes.

If you really want it off, I'd just drill or grind the screw heads off.
I got the screws out, but the nut inserts are toast. My windshield frame has a lot of fatigue cracks. Around those nut inserts, the roll-bar attachment locations, everywhere there is a stress concentration area (holes). I will need to take the frame off and either do a lot of welding or replace it. I'll probably end up putting in my own nut inserts at that point to make it where I can swap over to a rag top
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On another note, I found that TJ soft uppers will work with some modification. I might do this since people want insane amounts of money for their full steel doors. Plus they seem to be hard to find right now. Full doors would be pretty nice to have though...
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Full doors are nice to have. I had to reseal mine because I live in Northern Calif and we get 70 - 80 inches of rain a year. Wasn't too hard of a job to do to reseal the doors. Had a lot of help from different people on here. I have soft doors that go on it in the summer along with a bikini top. On the sides of your top where they bolt on your tub I used 5/16 bolts 1 1/2 inch long with square nuts on the bottom with stainless washers under the heads to help distribute holding pressure to the tub. With the 3/4 inch wide weatherstripping it seal pretty nicely.
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Full doors are nice to have. I had to reseal mine because I live in Northern Calif and we get 70 - 80 inches of rain a year. Wasn't too hard of a job to do to reseal the doors. Had a lot of help from different people on here. I have soft doors that go on it in the summer along with a bikini top. On the sides of your top where they bolt on your tub I used 5/16 bolts 1 1/2 inch long with square nuts on the bottom with stainless washers under the heads to help distribute holding pressure to the tub. With the 3/4 inch wide weatherstripping it seal pretty nicely.
That is a lot of rain sir. We get roughly 3" annually here, and we were at 1.5" for the year just before Christmas. But then we got a lot (1-2") in the past month. Thanks for the info, I hope to get it bolted down this weekend. My eyes are still peeled for some doors
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I thought 70" to 80" of rain a year is a whopping lot. Around Metro Denver we average 14" to 16" a year. At 3" a year I don't know what I would do. Adapt I guess.

We're considered semi-arid. Matt C must be in the desert.
If we got more rain here I would only have to mow more. As it is I have to mow the fields around the house two or three times a year to keep them cut down in case of grass fires.

Mule rider has had a drought these past couple years. I'll bet he's being dumped on now by the Pineapple Express. Two to three feet of snow in the Sierras.

We get the same weather systems a day or two later.
Some of the ski resorts here in Colorado have had six feet of snow since the first of the year. A couple of the ski resorts have had to close for a day because of avalanche worries.

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Yeah, desert southwest. Very arid. Low rust though ha ha. What's this "snow" you speak of?

CA definitely needs the rain, they seem to be in droughts fairly often and this one seems to be the worst yet. When I was in Big Bear a few months back, I saw that the lake there was at its lowest point that I have ever seen. Kinda sad looking actually. I hope they get the rain they need soon.
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Did you use something else hold down the front after cutting of the lip?
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Its not uncommon to get 5-6 inches of rain over night here. We are on the coast and have to deal with salt air and rain, so if its metal it rusts here. That's the reason I had to replace my windshield frame and dash. this is a pic of my driveway and front pasture. Thought I was going to have to give my horses swimming lessons.
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That is a lot of rain, people here wouldn't know what to do if we got anywhere near that much rain ha ha

Got the top on for a fit, still need to put in some seals but getting the Jeep driving again is the priority. The Baja 250 is coming up and I want to take the Jeep to San Felipe to watch the races, and of course do some off-roading while there.
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