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Old 06-20-2011, 05:12 AM   #1
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Hardtop / softtop

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first sorry 4 my english , its not my native language but i will give it a try.
When u got the softtop on and want to switch to hardtop, do u have to remove the (list) between the body and softtop or can u leave it ?
Just bought the car so im a newbie.
Reason why i ask is that i will get a new paint on and are concerned about scratching it .
Hope u understand what i mean.

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Old 06-20-2011, 06:41 AM   #2
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(list) what do u mean by this?

Pretty much everything is to be removed
When installing the hard top. U can leave the brackets or the things on the side roll bar (sport bar) and the seal across the front window.

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Dont know the word for it , its the metal plates that u use to fit the softtop to the body back at the car.
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Dont know the word for it , its the metal plates that u use to fit the softtop to the body back at the car.
Two plates on the sides of the tailgate?

These?

If so... No, take them off
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:01 AM   #5
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Havent yet mounted my softtop but when i was unpacking it i found this metal plates which i think will fit on the body all around back and the sides for the softtop to attach aginst the body.
Two on the sides and 2 in the corners and one back.
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Havent yet mounted my softtop but when i was unpacking it i found this metal plates which i think will fit on the body all around back and the sides for the softtop to attach aginst the body.
Two on the sides and 2 in the corners and one back.
Yes, the bottom of the soft top has plastic strips. When mounted the plastic strip presses into those rails your talking about.
I forget how they attach but use the same holes as the hardtop uses. Only drilling you might have to do is those two brackets I pictured. Those are for the back for the tailgate bar (attaches to bottom of window) and the plastic strips to tuck into.

The jeep Tj does not have the rails the slots are built into the body. But both still use the brackets in the back.


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I am a little confused (what else is new) but think we need to know what year your jeep is to be able to help? I don't understand the 'metal plates that go around the back' maybe header bar? can you post any pics?
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Two plates on the sides of the tailgate?

These?

If so... No, take them off
I have an 03 Rubicon, hardtop and softop...and you DO NOT take off those brackets (they hold the 'rail' for the rear window on the soft top).
So definitely, we need to know the year and model of your jeep to tell you what you need to do!
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I am a little confused (what else is new) but think we need to know what year your jeep is to be able to help? I don't understand the 'metal plates that go around the back' maybe header bar? can you post any pics?
He/she has a YJ. They have metal rails for the top to tuck into. The Tj does not. Built into the body
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I have an 03 Rubicon, hardtop and softop...and you DO NOT take off those brackets (they hold the 'rail' for the rear window on the soft top).
So definitely, we need to know the year and model of your jeep to tell you what you need to do!
He confused me at first. I thought he was using is hard top.

He said "switch to hardtop" but he meant the other way around
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This is a YJ forum guys. There a diff set up than the Tj ..... I owned a Yj
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:39 PM   #12
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Can u leave these metal plates on the body when u switch to hardtop or do u have to remove them?

tx for all answer
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:44 PM   #13
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If I were to want to put a hard top back on my YJ (which I don't) I would have all the brackets and stuff to remove so my hard top would fit again. I just made the switch to soft top and I ain't going back.....
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:44 PM   #14
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Gizmo, you need to remove them.
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Yes ^^^^ lol

He's confusing me on off on off ??
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Old 06-20-2011, 01:23 PM   #16
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I thought it was a YJ thread and wanted to make sure before I bailed trying to help- as OP said English was not native language. I had a Yj but only used hard top and bikini top.
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Old 06-20-2011, 02:39 PM   #18
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sorry guys if i confuse u, little hard for me to explain in english.
The reason i ask of this is because if i could leave the metal plates for the softtop when i change to hardtop, and the hardtop still fits it would protect my (soon) painted body.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/14070_9301_07.htm

In one of this pictures u see the metal plates im talking about

Wouldnt it be some kind of protection between hardtop and the body?
anybody follow?
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These?

Those need to come off for the hard top

BUT: there is a seal that protects the body like you want, I think. If Quadratec does not have it check Mopar, maybe the factory does.

If I recall when I owned my Yj... I used weather stripping form Home Depot, and I punched holes in it so the bolts will go through.

I use 4 C clamps of to hold down my top in the winter. I don't like messing with those stupid bolts

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Here u go bud...

This will protect the paint and seal the top.

http://www.quadratec.com/showcases/h..._installation/
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:27 PM   #21
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The only thing you don't have to take off for the YJ is the rail that is screwed into the top of the tailgate. Everything else will be crushed or prevent the top from sealing properly.
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These?

Those need to come off for the hard top

BUT: there is a seal that protects the body like you want, I think. If Quadratec does not have it check Mopar, maybe the factory does.

If I recall when I owned my Yj... I used weather stripping form Home Depot, and I punched holes in it so the bolts will go through.

I use 4 C clamps of to hold down my top in the winter. I don't like messing with those stupid bolts

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Ok tx , thought that the hardtop would fit with those on.....
Have there been any seal original?
ill go with r solution .....
Tailgate? whats that.....got 7 metal plates , maybe its not complete...
Tx for all answers
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The tailgate is the rear door. Usually, there is a rail that is attached to the top of the rear door that the rear window slides into. Some manufacturers may hold it down some other way.
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The tailgate is the rear door. Usually, there is a rail that is attached to the top of the rear door that the rear window slides into. Some manufacturers may hold it down some other way.
Not to confuse the op but doesn't that rail
attach to the window itself and then push into these?

It's the same for the Tj and the Yj
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I've never seen that part on my YJ soft top. I have a rail/track that is screwed into the rear door. and the bottom of the window slides under the lip.

As I said different manufacturers do things differently.
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I've never seen that part on my YJ soft top. I have a rail/track that is screwed into the rear door. and the bottom of the window slides under the lip.

As I said different manufacturers do things differently.
True, I could be wrong. It's been 11 yrs since I owned my Yj. It was a best top though

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