I am brand new to the forum and am planning on getting my first Jeep very soon. My price range is around 4000 and for that money I figured I could get my hands on a decent YJ.
A little background info. I'm a college student up in Boston but my roots have always been in a small rural town with plenty of trails. I've fallen in love with Jeeps and it is no longer a question of if I should get a Jeep it is which one to get.
I need the Jeep to do a few things for me. It will be mostly a road runner however I would like to take it off road at times. Also I need it to tow my fishing boat around, but I assume this won't be a problem. I would like it to be deadly reliable and last for many years to come.
I have my eye on a 1994 Wrangler Sahara with 150000 miles. It has Inline 6 with a 5 speed. He is asking 3000 but I plan on talking him down a little. My question is is it worth it and if so will it fit my needs? I have owned a Volkswagen for a few years now which are the most unreliable cars in the world and hope that this Jeep will be a little less of a head ache. I would appreciated and thoughts or comments.
If anyone has bothered to read this far thank you and if you do think this is a good buy for me please get me looking in the right direction for a lift kit and tires.
Good choice with the 6 cylinder, & I'm sure it's worth the $3000 depending on the body and the past upkeep. As far as dependable you have to remember that jeep has been shiten&gettin since you were crawling, it's an old man and things wear out and need to be fixed every so often on any vehicle that age. But ya if it looks decent & runs good I say do it!! Let us know
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Rust, check for rust everywhere, frame around suspension components floor pans, check all fluids for discoloration, milky color and the seller better have a really good explanation. Make sure tranny and tcase shift smoothly. Other then those items plan on having to tinker abit. But at 150k she's just getting broke in.
Awesome thanks for the advice. He says there is not rust to speak of but Im more concerned with the frame. Being a New England Jeep I'm praying the frame is i good condition. And I am prepared to work on it often I just don't want any major failures if you know what I mean.
Yes it has hard doors and hard top. As for the price, I'm sure a CA Jeep is in much better condition than a New England one however I do think its a great deal. There is no rot on the floors which is a good sign however I have yet to go on a road test. So far the advice I have received has been great. Thanks guys and keep the comments coming.
X2 on what subzero said. I traded my acura integra gsr (worth $4800) for mine and it's a only a 2.5 4 cyl. but it's super clean and only has 110,000 mi. and had been garaged it's whole life. If mine did have the 4.0 it probly would have sold for $6,000 here in ca.
1990 YJ, 2.5 AX-5, 4.5" spring/shackle lift, 31" BFG Mud terrains, flowmaster muffler, stock 4.10 gears, factory hardtop, home made sway bar disco's, home made trunk/storage shelf
" I got my girl, my dogs, and my JEEP, life is good."
The only thing that scares me is the mileage. I was raised to believe that all cars died at the magic 100k, and owning a VW reinforced my belief. This could just be because the winters here are car killers. I've never seen so much salt and chemicals in the winter up here. But in any case, if the frame proves to be rust free and the powertrain is running strong I will not hesitate to buy it.
How many miles before I need to do a major repair. I can't afford an engine/tranny rebuild any time soon but I expect regular maintenance. I plan on taking the slow approach and as each part needs replacing, I'll upgrade it.
Climb under and check the frame. The tub I bought this fall for my '94 rebuild with my daughters was basically rust free, but the frame had split in half so the owner was parting it out. Check the crossmembers (reach up with your hand), the mounts for the springs/shackles, and around the steering box. Pull the dip stick and check for clean oil. Put it in 4 wheel drive and do some slow speed circles in a parking lot. It will hop a little, but you can listen for any bad "snap/crackle/pops." Take your time and don't rush into a purchase. As others have said, she's as old as you (or close) and if its been taken care of you should be fine, but you don't want to get into a project unless you have the time/funds to handle it (doubtfull if you are in school). Bring an OBJECTIVE friend when you test drive and don't be afraid to ask to have a mechanic put it on a lift and check it out. It might be worth the hour of shop time rate. Good luck and keep us posted.
If 100,000 is the magic number for auto-death, I'm up a creek. Most of my vehicles are already over that when I get them. Check the frame for rust... absolutely. But here is the best advice you will get. I've seen it more often that not. You are in college and looking for a dependable daily driver. You need to make a conscious decision right now, that the only way you may accomplish this, is to MAKE it dependable. Buy tools. Buy books. Stay in contact with people that can give you feedback and help you. Learn about your vehicle and it's mechanical limits. And then, turn it into something you want. Good luck.
Cars nowadays are built to last over 100k, it's how well you keep them up. When I was working in a shop in Tucson AZ we had a taxi come in w/a blown head gasket. The taxi was an early 90 Ford aero star w/ 400k on the origional motor and trans. The cabby had it since new running it to and from Mexico for 18 years.
Thanks for all the advice so far. I appreciate how much usable advice I've received in such a short time. I am not broke since I do work full time and my parents have blessed me by paying for my undergrad years however, I would like to save as much money as I can. I come from a family of mechanics and engineers that have never brought their vehicles to a shop and nor do I plan on bringing mine to one. I plan to leech off of their experience/tools and in the process learn alot about my Jeep. I am sure this forum will prove to be a great source of information in the future and as I have already found out, it is full of very helpful members.
Wow I find that surprising in a Jeep forum. In the VW forums of my past almost every member didn't own a tool box to their name but I guess I just assumed that all Jeep owners were tinkerers like myself. Anyways from the advice so far, the general consensus is to buy it right away pending on if it isn't a POS.
As a side note . . . a guy did offer me his 87 Wrangler with 110000 miles. It was a I6 5 speed as well for 3000. I just figured the better equipped and relatively newer Sahara was the better buy but I'd like to hear everyones input.
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There are all types I am sure, from the guys that have the snapon truck parked outside the shop to the guy that has the 10n1 screwdriver, sidecutters, bailing wire, and ducttape in the glove box(guilty). Having access to tools is almost as good as owning them.
Good job on passing the 87, they have the pukegut 5 speed.
I have magically gotten 203,000 out of my Peugot 5 speed mated to a 4.2 so far, but I don't 4-wheel much with it as it my daily driver, though I do drive it like a race care and slide my turns. I have been told that when it gets bad I am best off to replace the transmission rather than fix it.
I'd stick with fuel injected yj's with 4.0's and manuals. Everything else is a bonus. If that Sahara isn't rusted out, I'd go for it myself. A solid 4.0 94 YJ around here would go for more than he's asking EASILY.
Ya just check for rust. If it has Bosch plugs in it take out and run dealer spec which I beleive are champion copper ones. 150000 miles is alot so check for the infamous oil leak. If it is leaking from between the tranny and motor it would be that or slave cylinder. Good luck
Just south of Boston, here. So far, my 90 YJ has gotten me through 3 wonderful winters. And she's a hurtin' unit right now... 1) Frame has cancer on one side - upper shock mount's gone on the other. 2) The exhaust is wicked bad - rear main seal. Yet she is still way more dependable than my husband's 'this decade' Hyundai. (Some day I will repay her with a smooth new suspension )
If you know how to work duct tape and zip ties, you can keep a Jeep running. Good luck and keep us updated.