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Old 12-17-2013, 08:30 AM   #1
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How long can you survive ?

As a long time Jeeper, I wanted to pass this interesting article along as sometimes we get all involved with what we've added to make our Jeep look and perform better, but overlook what is very important when using our vehicles to explore the areas we so want to access with.
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How prepared are you to survive a few days in the frozen wilderness with only the supplies you have in your vehicle?
A family of 6 discovered that they have what it takes when their Jeep flipped over in the middle of the Seven Troughs mountain range in north-central Nevada last week.



How Long Could You Survive? – LewRockwell.com

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Old 12-17-2013, 08:58 AM   #2
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my jeep is my bug out bag consiting in med kit, 2 ecw bags ,enough food,mre,s (plenty of sun flower seeds ) and snares to get my own meat and the as an outdoor surviorlist skills to keep me indiffenitly if i have to. your own mindset is the best tool u have i will not die,never for a secound think you will die,,,ever,,

my motto,,,,better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it,,

great post!!!

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Old 12-17-2013, 09:10 AM   #3
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Being a Nevada resident and my family and i have enjoyed hundereds of miles of desert back roads and going on the trails for days and seeing nobody....we are prepared for minimum 5 days... death valley is a regular stomping ground for us...

We also carry a SPOT locater so hopefully as long as there are sats in the air we can be found and let people know where we are going and a time we are estimated to be back.

We carry a survival case anytime we go out. The case includes all the essentials for a week in the field, ration bars, signal flare, emergency strobe light, shelter, fire, whistle, first aid kit (army field medic kit) , knife, small firearm, tarp, sunscreen, small hand water purification system, snare wire, etc...

A Good survival food is Survival Tabs http://www.sohlius.com 15 days of food about the size of a military canteen.

We also carry 5 to 10 gallons of water depending on where we are headed for the day or weekend.

Also my Jeep is set up for survival, it has all the essentials needed for a field repair, plug a tire, change a tire, extra belts, hoses, winch, extraction tools, CB, flashlights, tools, fluids, spare gas, spare water containers, hi-lift, ruger take down 22 mounted in a tuffy under seat storage, etc....

But you can never be too prepared...

Let people know where you are going, plan for the worst, and learn about your environment & ways to survive...

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Old 12-17-2013, 11:45 AM   #4
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Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

All the gear won't help if you don't have the presence of mind to keep your wits, adapt, and improvise. That said, all my cars have kits in them - first aid, some basic rations, water, blankets, etc. Go take a bushcraft/survival course - get the kids involved in Scouting... lots of ways to prepare the mind.
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:12 PM   #5
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Best advice is to travel with company. That not being available or desired, I adjust my "kit" to where I will be traveling. In the snow I carry full snowmobile suits and a sub-zero family bag along with fire starters and a colorful tarp as a signal from the air. In the desert it's the same with out the snowmobile suits or heavy bag but more water and reflective cover. A medical kit goes on all trips alnog with tools and some parts. I had to reattach a drive shaft using nuts and bolts from my bumper and bailing wire, it wasn't pretty but got me to the road and good ole AAA.
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:34 PM   #6
Guesses a lot ;)

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It surprises me when I run with guys that dont even fill the gas tank before they go out. Im generally over prepared for most situations and have enough stuff to take care of the group Im wheeling with for at least a few days...lol. Although that shouldnt be my responsibility, I feel better that way.

We are blessed with natural resources in my area. The other side of Oregon is another story but still doable with a little planning and common sense.

I grew up in a old school family of Farmers, loggers and genuine outdoor enthusiast. I didnt even realize I was a "prepper" til last year when I started getting on forums.lol. Its just always been my way of life. We hunt, fish, grow, smoke, can, freeze, butcher and stockpile.

Its crazy to me when I read about people going "camping" and getting lost or breaking down and dying... What the hell kind of camping were they planning on doing?? It aint that tricky to gather sustenance and walk your ass back to civilization or cell service.lol
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:31 PM   #7
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The importance of knowing how to use your gear is just as important as having it. Don't just buy a pre-made 'BOB' or 'emergency bag' and think you're safe. Go through scenarios in your head and practice. That's how to truly be prepared. ;-)
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Old 12-18-2013, 02:28 AM   #8
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"Improvise, adapt, overcome." Mindset and knowledge is your most important survival tool. Never give up, never quit. The only real tools you need beyond that are a sharp knife, some kind of fire starter, a metal container to collect and boil water in, shelter from the elements (everything from the proper clothing to a tarp, or even a tent), and cordage. (Of course, learning how to make shelters from what's available is the best option, then you don't have to carry a shelter.)
These are the basics needed to sustain life, everything else you carry beyond that is luxury. Learn how to use this list of items to their fullest extent and you can survive virtually anywhere. Add food and water to what you're carrying and a survival situation becomes a camping trip! Learn to hunt, trap and fish and you can stay out indefinitely, if you have a water supply.
NOW, given that most of us would probably be in Jeeps to start with, the "luxury" items that can be carried, can get to be quite extensive. Most of the survival gear carried in a Jeep will be readily at hand when needed, and out the way while enjoying the adventure. But none of the most expensive, highly developed, technical gear out there will you do you one bit of good, if you don't know the basics of how to start a fire, find/collect and boil water, build/erect a shelter and signal for help. Practice these abilities, and know how to use the gear you do choose to carry.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:19 AM   #9
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The single most critical issue that has not been mentioned in this discussion is the fact that the driver had been observed "doing wheelies or doughnuts" in the snow and ice. If he had displayed the common sense that should have prevailed when he was out with young children, he most likely would not have gotten in this situation in the first place.

I am the first one to push my YY to the limits, but NEVER with my 9 year old grandson with me (or anyone else whose safety depends on my actions).

This is similar to pilots being praised for putting down safely from a bad situation that their poor judgment got them into in the first place. Look at the cause before praising the outcome.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:41 AM   #10
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The single most critical issue that has not been mentioned in this discussion is the fact that the driver had been observed "doing wheelies or doughnuts" in the snow and ice. If he had displayed the common sense that should have prevailed when he was out with young children, he most likely would not have gotten in this situation in the first place.

I am the first one to push my YY to the limits, but NEVER with my 9 year old grandson with me (or anyone else whose safety depends on my actions).

This is similar to pilots being praised for putting down safely from a bad situation that their poor judgment got them into in the first place. Look at the cause before praising the outcome.
Probably true, but I would venture to guess most rescues happen because the rescuee didn't exhibit some type of common sense, ie going some where unprepared, failing to notify someone of trip , taking undue risks etc.. But, humans do things a lot of time that don't involve common sense, so its good to be prepared. The dad was prepared, so the issue was not compounded. He did a good job which ultimately saved his family.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:37 PM   #11
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Great post!

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