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Old 10-29-2011, 10:06 PM   #1
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i slip in the snow? :(

hey everyone, im new to this jeep lifestyle. im a novice at cars in general. please do not bash on me. :|

alrighty,,,
well a couple weeks agoi recently purchased a 91 jeep wrangler, 4.0L 6 cylinder, manual, 3 inch rough country lift, with 35s.
Supposedly the engine was swapped, and is now running on a 92 xj engine. welll,,, we had recent snowfall and i was sooo pumped to drive it in the snow. i popped it in to 4H and i slip while driving, even at the start of green lights i slipped. i went on a hill and actually got stuck and my tires were slipping, BUT sometimes the traction would feel greattt. could it just be the tires are worn out or is my 4wd system messed up?

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Old 10-29-2011, 10:09 PM   #2
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i also used to drive a JK 2010 jeep unlimited rubicon 4 door, and the 4wd was amazing. but with my yj now, i slip bad. sedans were even passing me

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Old 10-29-2011, 10:21 PM   #3
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What tires do you have? And why did you go from a JK to a YJ, or do you have both?
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Two things come to mind. One is it both front and rear slipping or just the rear? Two what type of tire? Tire might ne wrong type for the conditions, or there over inflated. My wrangler has never seen snow and problay never will so I'm not sure how they act in it.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:29 PM   #5
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i couldnt afford the jk so twas repo'd T.T
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:30 PM   #6
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it slips in the rear, theyre mud tires
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:38 PM   #7
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Check tire pressure if its normal lower it alittle
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:38 PM   #8
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ooh theyre radial belted tires, what would be considered normal psi?
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:38 PM   #9
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Your front diff is probably not locking. I live in Buffalo NY and we get a ton of snow. YJ's are great in snow. If there is over a inch I use 4 hi. Only time I've ever slid around was in 2wd.
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:43 PM   #10
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is it fixable? or what could be wrong with it. dammm im so newb... how do yall learn all this stuff?
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:46 PM   #11
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you know what? it might be that. i remeber the first time i popped it into 4H just to see if it worked, i heard a thud noise and it felt like i ran over something but only in the front. is it an easy fix or replace? im so newb... haha but i frikkin love this car. how do yall learn all these things?
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we take our jeeps out and try to drive over crazier and crazier stuff until something big breaks, and then we figure out how to fix it
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Old 10-29-2011, 10:50 PM   #13
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you know what? it might be that. i remeber the first time i popped it into 4H just to see if it worked, i heard a thud noise and it felt like i ran over something but only in the front. is it an easy fix or replace? im so newb... haha but i frikkin love this car. how do yall learn all these things?
It's a jeep, you gotta learn for the repairs lol. And you also have to remember that even tho it's a 4x4 it's also really light, so sometimes you have to drive it slow and steady
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Good question. I'm running 285 70r17 Goodyear MT/Rs on a JK. I cannot avoid snow..I live..well, way the hell out in the middle of nowhere. Snow doesn't bother me but I used to live in Tx where blackice was a problem..okay...a plague from hell. I had a Land Rover, I flipped over on an inch of ice and I was doing...20? tops? So I have a healthy healthy respect for slippery conditions. The JK's new and I'm shopping, not for snow chains..given the MT/Rs but rather ice grips. Spider trax makes some nice ones but EGADs they are expensive. I found another alternative but the tire wall runners look to be polyurethane which, while it doesn't get below..-25 here, I might still worry about as we're facing 4-5 months of -teens.
This is what I'm looking at, but I wish the studs were metal, and I'm not sure what the wall straps are. Will have to call Monday.

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Old 10-29-2011, 10:50 PM   #15
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haha ive actually been doing that. im so eager to restore the hell out of this thing. as of now i jsut want it to run smooth and be comfortable on the inside. this wrangler gots loads to fix already, im the 3rd owner
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haha ive actually been doing that. im so eager to restore the hell out of this thing. as of now i jsut want it to run smooth and be comfortable on the inside. this wrangler gots loads to fix already, im the 3rd owner
That how I am, bought mine for $300 and the previous owner ran it into the ground got the build thread in my sig.
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It's a jeep, you gotta learn for the repairs lol. And you also have to remember that even tho it's a 4x4 it's also really light, so sometimes you have to drive it slow and steady
the thing is that too tho, even just starting off in 1st or 2nd im already slipping.
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Last year was my first time driving my yj in snow. I have MT tires at 26psi my jeep was sliding all over the place, I lowered my psi to 12. Much better handling, but not as great as a snow rated tire would have been.
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the thing is that too tho, even just starting off in 1st or 2nd im already slipping.
It happens, just gotta go with it sometimes, maybe look for different tires
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Last year was my first time driving my yj in snow. I have MT tires at 26psi my jeep was sliding all over the place, I lowered my psi to 12. Much better handling, but not as great as a snow rated tire would have been.
ya lower pressure does help. I need to finish getting mine fixed, might sell my other car to do it, not sure yet
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:03 PM   #20
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i see isee. ill try that first thing in the am. and one thing is that it slipped all the time. and then even driving at 25 it slips. ill replace the tires asap, and when i do, if it fixes the problem ima check the front diffrential.
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Old 10-29-2011, 11:06 PM   #21
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That how I am, bought mine for $300 and the previous owner ran it into the ground got the build thread in my sig.
thats one fine rig you got man... i feel ripped off 3000 for mines pre modded from the previous owner. he started a project, and now im lost on where he left off. alot of things dont work and i have rust holes on the floor, and i smell and see fumes everynow and then coming from the floor vent haha.
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Before you buy new tires, try lowering the tire pressure and see if that helps. If you're not satisfied, then go for a better tire choice. Hope you get it resolved.
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thats one fine rig you got man... i feel ripped off 3000 for mines pre modded from the previous owner. he started a project, and now im lost on where he left off. alot of things dont work and i have rust holes on the floor, and i smell and see fumes everynow and then coming from the floor vent haha.
Thanks man, I hate trying to deal with other peoples projects, never know what's up it...
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Old 10-30-2011, 01:56 AM   #24
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I have driven in snow for about 16 years and my conclusion to handling in the snow has always been tires, tires, tires. Trust me, a 2wd pick up can handle snow just fine with the right set of tires. If your losing traction just on take off, tire pressure is not your problem, unless your tires are seriously overinflated, or your popping the clutch like its a hot rod. lol But in all seriousness, your going to need a good set of tires. I recommend goodyear wranglers as a versatile tire. I have run them on a 00 F150, 05 liberty and on a tacoma, and never had a grip issue during snow. In Ohio, a few years back, I drove my liberty from Cincinnati to Cleveland during one of the worst snow storms recorded. I cruised at about 60 on the highway, so much snow there wasnt even a lane, just guessed at a path and drove. I watched as people in front of me would spin out and hit the snow drift, while I cruised right on by. Best part was passing all the troopers on the highway, as there was no way they would have ever been able to catch me. LOL Before anyone bashes me for not stopping, I had my 7 month old son in the car and wasn't about to sit on the side of the road helping morons, while I was driving clear across the state and I felt that confident about the traction in the libery with the goodyear wranglers.
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To c if the 4x4 work just put it in 2H and do a little burnout in the snow. Then put it in 4H and roll forward a little bit before trying a little burn out in 4H. Any diffrence? You also might want to go to a narrower tire for winter
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its either your front axle acting up, or you have the wrong tires under it for the conditions...

in my own experience, anything under 5" of snow on the ground and mud tires aren't worth it, anything over 5" of snow and you shouldn't have any problems(more for the tire to dig). when we had that huge snow storm last year(chicago) i was out driving around at 3 am through 2-3 foot snow drifts that went throughout the WHOLE neighborhood(you couldn't tell where the streets were, you had to guess, and thankfully i know my neighborhood very well, it was also comical to me to see the cutout my truck was making in the street...bumper was clearly pushing snow)...i had no issues with 31" superswampers in my bronco, granted its a heavier vehicle than a jeep, i also drove same said vehicle with around the inches i specified and noticed the less snow the worse it got..
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You sound pretty uhhh new to this. I agree, its probably the tires. Might want to network a bit, maybe find a local jeep club and have someone check out your tires.
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the first time i popped it into 4H just to see if it worked, i heard a thud noise and it felt like i ran over something but only in the front.
Let me guess... you were making a somewhat sharp turn when you heard and felt that, right? This is normal. Unless you are on soft ground or in slippery conditions, a sharp turn in 4wd will cause the front axels to bind up. In 4wd your wheels have to turn at the same rotation. A turn forces one to move a farther distance than the other causing the inner wheel to bind up. Never use 4wd on hard surfaces. Continuing this practice will cause damage.
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I kinda skimmed over and didn't see anybody mentioning limited slip ,posi etc I have the same problem when taking off slowly from a light the jeeps are just so light I was thinking about upgrading to limited slip up front and a locker in the rear has any body made this change is it worth the money
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I tend to believe that a good all terrain tire is best for the snow. I run 33 inch falken wild peaks and last night we had the first snow fall of the year. The tires performed excellent, even at around 40mph (which I don't suggest doing). I just wanted to see how far they can go before sliding around curves But I had no problem driving at reasonable speeds and they held traction when going around turns, up hills, and on start offs. They did very well when braking too, as long as you don't lock up the brakes. Most of the night I was driving around on anywhere from 1 to 4 inches of snow.

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