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Old 08-06-2011, 11:11 PM   #1
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Hey, guys. My first (well, technically second) post here. Just wanted to ask a question...

I'm looking for a YJ / TJ for my girlfriend. She can't drive stick, so it's quite difficult to find her a good Jeep in our price range... I test drove a YJ today. It was in rough shape from what I saw (it started raining right as I got there).

The knob to turn on the windshield wiper was shot, there was a crack in the windshield, the wiring wasn't very pretty under neath.

This, to me, look like a project which I could enjoy, AND a way to save money. (Talk the salesman down).

I took it for a test drive, and I have a few concerns:

#1: It was loud. My experience with riding IN a Jeep is back when I was 8-10 years old. My Dad had a CJ7 with a V8 in it (it was beautiful, and it's actually what I'm going to build my Jeep into once I actually buy one :P), and it wasn't loud. It was a normal drive. Then again, it had no top. This was a soft top.
Odds are, the muffler came off / rusted off.

#2: It seemed like it revved somewhat high, although it's hard to tell as it was deafening loud. From what I could see, driving normal it revved up to about 2.5-3k. It also did not "lock" into gear. In the automatic cars I've driven in, once you're out of park and push down, it locks into Drive unless you pull it back / press the button. However, this might be normal for the Jeeps automatic transmission.

#3: It had "CJ" on the doors. It was clearly not a CJ, as it had the grill of a YJ, however, are the CJ doors and YJ doors swappable? I wasn't a fan of the opening mechanism on the CJ.

I didn't get a chance to get a good look at it, since it started to rain, like I said. I popped the hood, and saw what was probably just dirt on the valve cover. I'm going back tomorrow with my father (who's a mechanic), and I'm also going to check out some other YJ's / TJ's. Hopefully we can get one.

But Iw as just curious if I could get some information on this particular car.

BTW: It was the I4, with "130K" on the odometer, and he wanted 3500. Is that a fair deal? It seems all the automatic Jeeps down here in South Florida are like $3k+ more than their manual brethren.


EDIT:: Before anyone asks, this will be a daily driver, and probably will not go off roading, more than a dirt trail. Mine will be the off roading one.

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Old 08-06-2011, 11:15 PM   #2
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Thats expensive IMO but I guess its okay... I think all the doors are swapable on jeeps with minor changes in the hinges because the just bolt on... could be wrong. loudness is probably rusted muffler or cheap aftermarket glass pack type deal. The auto on mines can slip freeling from D to N but not 1,2, D... so idk which way you mean.

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Old 08-06-2011, 11:19 PM   #3
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Here in Oregon, 3000 for any jeep is a great deal. Don't worry to much about wiring and such because it is rare to find a jeep that hasn't had the wiring and other stuff messed with, and there's almost always going to be broken stuff lol. Most important is to find one rust free, fairly stock and with decently low miles. However, I would hold out for the 6 cylinder if it were me, the 4 is ok but you'll be much happier down the road with the 6 especially if larger tires and such are a plan
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Thats expensive IMO but I guess its okay... I think all the doors are swapable on jeeps with minor changes in the hinges because the just bolt on... could be wrong. loudness is probably rusted muffler or cheap aftermarket glass pack type deal. The auto on mines can slip freeling from D to N but not 1,2, D... so idk which way you mean.
It slipped from D to 1 & 2, I think. But it slipped from Drive into Neutral, most definitely.

If you want expensive, go to craigslist: south florida classifieds for jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events and look for Jeep Wrangler. :P
Most are 9K+ dollars. (Which is what we're probably going to spend)

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Here in Oregon, 3000 for any jeep is a great deal. Don't worry to much about wiring and such because it is rare to find a jeep that hasn't had the wiring and other stuff messed with, and there's almost always going to be broken stuff lol. Most important is to find one rust free, fairly stock and with decently low miles. However, I would hold out for the 6 cylinder if it were me, the 4 is ok but you'll be much happier down the road with the 6 especially if larger tires and such are a plan
Well, I'd plan on rewiring most everything anyway, just to make it clean. My major concern is with the Engine. What are the most common problems with the 2.5?

And as for the I6, I'd love it, but at the moment, she needs a car... and if it's an I4, it's an I4. if it's an I6, it's an I6. Worst case scenario, we go to the junk yard and pick up the I6 drive train from a wrecked Cherokee or something.

at the moment, we're just looking for a reliable car.
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I forgot you are in florida, that is true. I would say not a bad deal then.
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I forgot you are in florida, that is true. I would say not a bad deal then.
Yeah.

I personally don't think they should be that price... but, I've always been a fan of Jeeps, so I guess shelling out some extra cash is worth it.

From what I saw, it didn't have rust, though. I mean, it was dark due to the clouds. Like I said, I'll see it tomorrow (hopefully in the light).
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Look for one with a 6 cylinder auto if she wants to get anywhere. 4 speed autos are killed by even the slightest of inclines.

I let mine go to 3500rpms before I shift BTW, so 3000 is relatively low. These 4 cylinders make their power right around 3000rpms for the topend. I sometimes let mine go to 4000rpm if i'm going on the freeway.
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Also check to make sure the 4wd works. Nothing worse than buying a 4wd vehicle and then having it not work when you REALLY need it. If the 4wd is broken, and you don't need it right away, you could probably knock an easy $1k off the price.
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Look for one with a 6 cylinder auto if she wants to get anywhere. 4 speed autos are killed by even the slightest of inclines.

I let mine go to 3500rpms before I shift BTW, so 3000 is relatively low. These 4 cylinders make their power right around 3000rpms for the topend. I sometimes let mine go to 4000rpm if i'm going on the freeway.
Okay. Good info.

As for 'inclines'... I live in Florida. So, not many inclines.

I am, however, looking for a 6 cylinder. It's whatever comes first.

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Also check to make sure the 4wd works. Nothing worse than buying a 4wd vehicle and then having it not work when you REALLY need it. If the 4wd is broken, and you don't need it right away, you could probably knock an easy $1k off the price.
Yeah. Good thought. We won't need 4wd for a while.



Would it be smart to get a gasket kit and replace all the gaskets once I buy a Jeep? Regardless of the engine.
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Old 08-07-2011, 03:34 PM   #10
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I went to do more shopping today: saw a sunken Sahara, a busted 4 cylinders, and a good I6 that came out to 7.5 after dealer fees, tax and tag.

Not sure if I should do that. I only have 5k cash.
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if a dealer was trying to sell you a 16+ year old jeep for 7.5 k that's insane. don't go to dealers. i used to live in south Florida and i remember what its like but the jeeps just arent worth more than 4-5k in great condition, wait for an 4.0 auto you won't regret it.

try these guys there in tampa but are usually pretty fairly priced and fix the jeeps before they sell the again. call him and see what he has, he had more than what was on the site when i went there years ago. Jeep repair, sales & service for Largo and St Petersburg
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if a dealer was trying to sell you a 16+ year old jeep for 7.5 k that's insane. don't go to dealers. i used to live in south Florida and i remember what its like but the jeeps just arent worth more than 4-5k in great condition, wait for an 4.0 auto you won't regret it.

try these guys there in tampa but are usually pretty fairly priced and fix the jeeps before they sell the again. call him and see what he has, he had more than what was on the site when i went there years ago. Jeep repair, sales & service for Largo and St Petersburg
Yeah. It also had 201k miles on it. :X
I'm going to call him and offer him 6. It ran really well, shifted really nicely... It was 10 years old (2001).

However, those people don't have any cheap ones. I didn't give them a call since I read this late last night, but from their website their cheapest is a stock TJ for $8.5k or something.


I also found what appears to be a nice Jeep 150 miles away from me, thanks to a friendly forum member who recommended looking up North.

It's an '01 Sahara, Auto, with only 33k miles for 6.5k. Which is worth it, IMO. The only issue with it is that it was stolen for some time, and retrieved 10k miles later, and was issued a Rebuilt title.

I haven't been able to check how much extra the insurance is, or if they'll even cover that car.
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I'm in central FL.. $3,500 is fine for a jeep that’s running well and that’s low mileage for its age. Mine had 150k+ it's actually exactly what I paid for mine in '09.
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- In FL you should have no problem finding a rust free vehicle
- YJ as a daily driver can be rough. Keep in mind its Rough ride, bad gas mileage, and not a good highway vehicle.
- On another note I love my YJ as a second vehicle. I enjoy what it can do and when the weather is right topless cruises are the best.
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i thought you were looking for a yj, thats why i was surprised at the price.
tj's are gonna be nearly impossible to find for 5k.
givve the guy in tampa a call he usually doesn't list his yj's on the site.
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i thought you were looking for a yj, thats why i was surprised at the price.
tj's are gonna be nearly impossible to find for 5k.
givve the guy in tampa a call he usually doesn't list his yj's on the site.

Well, I was originally looking for a YJ, until I test drove one and realized I should probably get a TJ. I test drove a TJ, and it drove like a daily driver should. So, I started focusing more on TJ's vs YJ's.

What's the price of a good shape YJ?
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I'm in central FL.. $3,500 is fine for a jeep thatís running well and thatís low mileage for its age. Mine had 150k+ it's actually exactly what I paid for mine in '09.
A few notes.
- In FL you should have no problem finding a rust free vehicle
- YJ as a daily driver can be rough. Keep in mind its Rough ride, bad gas mileage, and not a good highway vehicle.
- On another note I love my YJ as a second vehicle. I enjoy what it can do and when the weather is right topless cruises are the best.



1) All of the Jeeps I've looked at are pretty rusty. Not sure why. One was definitely a sunken car. One I saw, the entire rear end was rusted out.
2) I agree. I didn't realize how rough those leaf springs were until I drove one... Jeez, that was rough. But so much fun!
3)I'm going to either get a YJ or CJ. Preferably CJ, since I like the look better.
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4-5k is the range for a great condition stock yj, 3-4 for good, and anything under you probably shouldn't look for unless you want a project.

yea the yj's are rough but you get used to it, i used to have a 05 LJ before i got my yj and i actually prefer the yj. alot simpler and easy to use. new shocks probably are needed in most cases anyways, mine were still the factory ones.

biggest thing to look for is rust, being in florida helps but it has more to do with care, i'm in the northeast, my yj has been in the northeast since it was new, and its rust free. it all has to do about care.
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Yeah. The clock is ticking, as I need the car next week. (girlfriends starting school and we need 2 cars), but if I can't find a good one, I refuse to buy it and might have to go and buy another car.

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