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Old 12-22-2016, 07:25 PM
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Lift kit sugguestions

Hey guys, I am currently looking into a few lift kits. This has been my first jeep build and will be my first suspension lift. I am looking for a kit between 400-700$ that is around 4 inches. Any sugguestions?
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There is a reason why they are cheap. Their quality is horrendous and ever since my buddy wrecked from their control arms snapping on his TJ I wouldn't buy from them.


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Yes, they are craptastic. The word rough is in the name, and describes the ride.

I have had skyjacker, rough country and now pro-comp.
My pro-comp(2.5") was installed years ago by a previous owner and is the best riding leaf spring lift I have experienced. I recommend it highly.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/e...model/wrangler

I always recommend going with a 2.5" lift over a 4"
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I've had my 4" rough country for 5+ years and served me well, just went through the Rubicon trail with it so for the $ you really can't beat it. If I were you go for their military wrap x series kit for a few more bucks. Be prepared to do a sye in the future too.

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I've had my 4" rough country for 5+ years and served me well, just went through the Rubicon trail with it so for the $ you really can't beat it. If I were you go for their military wrap x series kit for a few more bucks. Be prepared to do a sye in the future too.

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Idk..I have the 4" kit. DREDnot states the RC springs ride like crap...I, on the other hand can't vouch for that as I have no experience with any other. Personally I'm not complaining but might if I found another brand riding much nicer!? Listen to the experience not just me. For a little over $700 bucks that ProComp kit is what he said rides better seems to be the one to get if you are concerned of the ride. The Old Man Emu is around $1000 and nobody seems to doubt their quality.

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How do you plan to use your Jeep? If you want a daily driver with occasional light to moderate off road use then a good ride will be more important than if you are building a vehicle for use in sand or rocks.

What size tires do you plan to run? Tire size goes hand in hand with choosing a lift.
Most jeepers state that anything greater than a 2 1/2" lift will require a slip yoke eliminator and the resultant cost, along with a new driveshaft.

If ride is important to you then I suggest you listen to DREDnot. His technical knowledge is unsurpassed on this forum.

For a few hundred bucks more, you can be assured of the best ride possible with the OME kit.

You will still be riding on WW II technology. Don't expect a TJ ride from a YJ. It just won't happen.

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another +10000000 to stay away from Rough Country.

When I initially lifted my Jeep, I bought their 4.5 "military wrap" spring kit. Right off the bat, the rear driveshaft that was supposed to be a fit for my kit and SYE wasn't even close. Within 18 months the springs were sagging so bad that 33's would rub going around a corner if anyone was sitting in the back. Just last week, one of the stainless braided brake lines blew out, they're less than 3 years old.

All I have left on my Jeep of that kit now are the, SYE kit (which they don't actually make anyway) front lift shackles, and the shocks. The shocks are actually decent.
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How do you plan to use your Jeep? If you want a daily driver with occasional light to moderate off road use then a good ride will be more important than if you are building a vehicle for use in sand or rocks.

What size tires do you plan to run? Tire size goes hand in hand with choosing a lift.
Most jeepers state that anything greater than a 2 1/2" lift will require a slip yoke eliminator and the resultant cost, along with a new driveshaft.

If ride is important to you then I suggest you listen to DREDnot. His technical knowledge is unsurpassed on this forum.

For a few hundred bucks more, you can be assured of the best ride possible with the OME kit.sed

You will still be riding on WW II technology. Don't expect a TJ ride from a YJ. It just won't happen.

Good Luck, L.M.
I'm running 33s right now and don't plan on going any bigger. It will be used as a commuter (no more than 50 miles a week all in the city) but i will also used for moderate off roading (mostly as my hunting vehicle). We have some pretty deep spots at the camp. Seeing how I live in florida I doubt I will do any extreme rock crawling. Another thing that im keeping in mind is that it is a 27 year old vehicle so I do not want to spend half of what the jeep is worth in a suspension system.
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Yes, they are craptastic. The word rough is in the name, and describes the ride.

I have had skyjacker, rough country and now pro-comp.
My pro-comp(2.5") was installed years ago by a previous owner and is the best riding leaf spring lift I have experienced. I recommend it highly.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/e...model/wrangler

I always recommend going with a 2.5" lift over a 4"
How was the sky jacker lift?
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Best riding dual purpose road/off-road worthy lift kit is Old man emu 2.5"

Best off-roading/minor on-road kits: Rubicon express extreme duty 4.5" or BDS 4.5". The rubicon express kit rides a little softer and BDS has the best warranty over anyone period. Both of these kits come complete with stainless steel braided brake lines and everything else needed. Pair these with an SYE, better gears and bigger tires and you'll be very happy. Just very pricey.

Best budget kit brands would be Zone offroad, and maybe skyjacker and procomp as well. Skyjacker shocks are awful!

I'm part of an exclusively YJ jeep club and have driven and experienced almost every lift kit on the market and these are the only I recommend.
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Running 33s on a DD in mostly city driving and some moderate off roading, I'll bet you will be happier dropping down to 31s the next time you buy tires. You will get a little more oomph off the line and perhaps better mileage with city driving. Plus, your clutch may last longer. With the 31s you can get a 2 1/2" lift and save all the dough for a SYE.
You may find someone that wants to trade your 33s for a nice set of 31s.

You seem reluctant to invest the bank into an older toy. You can either give up other hobbies so that you can build your "dream Jeep", or you can build a budget off-roader. Very few of us can have all the toys just the way we want them. A "stage 1" build can be an economical project and quite enjoyable for most circumstances. The real expense starts when you go into single purpose rides like 12 X 35 mud tires and all the rest of what's necessary to make them work.

My choice for January is a new gun or full steel doors for the Jeep. This month the Jeep wins. I don't have to buy ammunition for the doors.

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My choice for January is a new gun or full steel doors for the Jeep. This month the Jeep wins. I don't have to buy ammunition for the doors.

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Funny! December budget for me was spent on presents and two new guns. Maybe the Jeep will get some money throw at it in January haha
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Funny! December budget for me was spent on presents and two new guns. Maybe the Jeep will get some money throw at it in January haha
Me and my dad went 50/50 on this jeep last Christmas on the condition that I would buy all the parts needed to restore it. The past week alone I have thrown down nearly 1500 dollars on it. But what the hell its been a fun build. We got it as a barn rescue and now its finally ready to be driven as a DD.
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Me and my dad went 50/50 on this jeep last Christmas on the condition that I would buy all the parts needed to restore it. The past week alone I have thrown down nearly 1500 dollars on it. But what the hell its been a fun build. We got it as a barn rescue and now its finally ready to be driven as a DD.
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1989 with sbc and 33's I want to go to 35's so that means a sye and 4in lift if I'm reading this right.
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1989 with sbc and 33's I want to go to 35's so that means a sye and 4in lift if I'm reading this right.
4in with 35's means trimming fenders, tube fenders or something else to get clearance for the tires.
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1989 with sbc and 33's I want to go to 35's so that means a sye and 4in lift if I'm reading this right.
another thing to take in to account is that with 35s you put more stress on the dana 35 axle. You shouldn't run into too many problems if you don't wheel it but if you intend on wheeling it and are dead set on 35s plan to do a ford 9 inch swap in the back some time in the future. Right now i fit 33s with a 3 inch body lift that i intent to remove. My leaf springs sag like crazy but i could probably fit 35s if i really wanted. A buddy of mine has a 4 inch lift and runs 35s on his 94 yj. He didnt trim the fenders at all and the only time he rubs is when he's doing a sharp u turn or when he's wheeling
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another thing to take in to account is that with 35s you put more stress on the dana 35 axle. You shouldn't run into too many problems if you don't wheel it but if you intend on wheeling it and are dead set on 35s plan to do a ford 9 inch swap in the back some time in the future. Right now i fit 33s with a 3 inch body lift that i intent to remove. My leaf springs sag like crazy but i could probably fit 35s if i really wanted. A buddy of mine has a 4 inch lift and runs 35s on his 94 yj. He didnt trim the fenders at all and the only time he rubs is when he's doing a sharp u turn or when he's wheeling
I cut out my stock fenders and it did fine, I've been running about 4.5" lift with 35's for 2 years now and it's been fine. You'll definitely need deeper gears, and I go through front ball joints every year, and have broken many front axle shafts/joints and unit bearings with 35's. The dana 35 will blow, and the dana 30 barely runs 35's and with 35's you'll have to do the one piece axle shafts and upgrade to the axle shafts that use 5-760x u joints
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I cut out my stock fenders and it did fine, I've been running about 4.5" lift with 35's for 2 years now and it's been fine. You'll definitely need deeper gears, and I go through front ball joints every year, and have broken many front axle shafts/joints and unit bearings with 35's. The dana 35 will blow, and the dana 30 barely runs 35's and with 35's you'll have to do the one piece axle shafts and upgrade to the axle shafts that use 5-760x u joints
Quite honestly running 35s opens a whole new can of warms and as stated before by mac, with bigger tires you will loose the get up and go off the line. 33s will look great with a 4 inch lift and you won't have to sacrifice all the $$$.
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hope its cool to jump in and ask some stuff but one of my next things to do to my 92 yj 4.0l is to refresh my suspension , it already had a 4in rc lift on it went i bought it and being my first jeep i have no opinion of my own on lifts at the moment . i have 33s on it now and was already thinking maybe a 3.5in (i do like the 4in look tho) , but after relizing that i need to regear the thing and do the sye with the 4in po did none of this but did a locker in the rear tho . im guessing my man question would be , with that pro-comp 2.5in would i be abull to pass on a sye set for the time being and take the 1in tranny drop off ? after buying a complete exhaust system imma have delete somethig off my todo list this year and it seems its gonna have to be my sye set , i realy do not want to have that drop on my tranny putting more stress on the motor mounts (in my opinion). im not a rock crawler but i like mud , snow and like to not slow down when i see speed bumps
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hope its cool to jump in and ask some stuff but one of my next things to do to my 92 yj 4.0l is to refresh my suspension , it already had a 4in rc lift on it went i bought it and being my first jeep i have no opinion of my own on lifts at the moment . i have 33s on it now and was already thinking maybe a 3.5in (i do like the 4in look tho) , but after relizing that i need to regear the thing and do the sye with the 4in po did none of this but did a locker in the rear tho . im guessing my man question would be , with that pro-comp 2.5in would i be abull to pass on a sye set for the time being and take the 1in tranny drop off ? after buying a complete exhaust system imma have delete somethig off my todo list this year and it seems its gonna have to be my sye set , i realy do not want to have that drop on my tranny putting more stress on the motor mounts (in my opinion). im not a rock crawler but i like mud , snow and like to not slow down when i see speed bumps
The sye is one of the best mods you can do for so many reasons, but even a 2.5" lift will require a transfer case drop kit. Some engine/transmission combos dont need the drop kit on 2.5" kits like the 6cyl with auto or the 4cyl may or may not need it. The motor mounts should be fine even with a transfer case drop kit so you're just stressing yourself out over nothing.
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Mine came with 4in procrap first trip to the river broke three Springs in one pack so replaced them with Rubicon express 4in military wrap Springs 33×12.50r15 tires these springs they ride super good I also took off the track arms and put bilstein 5100 shocks on it I've offloaded the heck out of it like the heck out of them
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I've had the same question for a while. I was going to buy a lift kit in the fall, but getting the transmission rebuilt took priority..... I was set on a Skyjacker 2.5" lift, but then I found this for under $600 and free shipping: Pro Comp K3061B 2.5" Lift Kit with ES3000 Shocks for 87-95 Jeep® Wrangler YJ | Quadratec

I've read nothing but great things with the Pro Comp brand!

Early in my research for a lift, I was thinking a 4" lift as well. But since we use our jeep on the sand dunes, 4" would not have been a good choice(too high), plus we have the 2.5L engine. And the cost of the two driveshaft's that would need replacing with a 4" lift, was way more than I want to spend!!!!! Plus extended brake lines, fuel lines, lines that I don't know of.... ha

With the kit above, the only addition parts I need to buy, is a transfer case drop for around $30 and new eye bolts for $25. Once I'm done, I might replace the existing steering stabilizer for $45-$50. And I might even add a 1" body lift when I take the tub off in a few years to restore the tub and frame.

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Ive been running a 4.5" RC Xseries for about 3 years on my YJ. And its never given me a single issue. Even with all the added weight from nose to tail armor Rides awesome flexes well has military wrap springs. The standard rc stuff tarnished the brands reputation but their x series yj lifts are great
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Ive been running a 4.5" RC Xseries for about 3 years on my YJ. And its never given me a single issue. Even with all the added weight from nose to tail armor Rides awesome flexes well has military wrap springs. The standard rc stuff tarnished the brands reputation but their x series yj lifts are great
Still not that fantastic of a lift. A couple of friends have it and unfortunately rough country still cheased out a few things they could have done to make them perform a much better. They still use very cheap bushings and cheap friction reduction pads between leafs. They have decent up travel, it's the down travel where they really fail. They don't use Hendricks style retainers which allow for a bit more down travel

They also have too short overall length springs compared to my BDS or another friends Rubicon Express kit. Me and my friend have an extra 8" of down travel compared to those with the rough country X-series. Figured that out when measuring for bilsteins... The longer overall length also really helps with stability and makes for a much softer ride.

Overall it's a decent kit for the price and works for a lot of people. I just would rather save up for something a lot better for a few hundred more. BTW I've run Pro Comp 4", Rough Country 4" and now the BDS on my YJ so I've made some mistakes I wish I didn't make the first time around.
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i got BDS 4.5 on mine its alittle over your price just a pic for you to see the height have not got to drive it yet

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