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Old 12-10-2008, 05:05 AM   #1
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Question Lift questions

So I don't even have insurance on my jeep and I'm already wondering what lift I need, that's right need. Nothing wild, drivable, not a crawler.
I would like to put a stout 31 or 33" tire. My front fenders have rust forming next to the flares...should I ditch em or buy new?
What size lift do I need for this? Best bang for the buck??? Limited budget.
Will my 4.0 pull a 31 or 33"??? (stock gears, not looking to change ratio)
I'm sure this gets asked all the time....but any help is appreciated
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Old 12-10-2008, 07:04 AM   #2
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:15 AM   #3
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just search soa




a soa application is far too advance for what you are lookin for, and i think jpdoc was just kiddin.



anywayz, you will be MUCH happier with 33's, and if ya get 31's, you will wish you hadnt a few weeks later.

to properly clear 33's, get a 3.5" suspension lift.
you wont have to do a sye kit, and its an eeasy install.

you wont have to worry about gears, try a superlift, rubicon express, rough country...

lift, rims, and tires you are lookin around $2000 just to give you an idea. (if you go all new)

if you decide to go with 31's, all you need is a shackle lift front and rear, which means you can keep your stock rims, and with shackels and 31's you are lookin around $750 (if you go all new)
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:57 AM   #4
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i think the best lift for 31 or 33in. tires would be a 4 inch lift. i think you should probly go with 33 in. tires, but that is your call. i would also recomend a rough countrylift. but after my yj was lifted i have some intense vibrations.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:07 AM   #5
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i think the best lift for 31 or 33in. tires would be a 4 inch lift. i think you should probly go with 33 in. tires, but that is your call. i would also recomend a rough countrylift. but after my yj was lifted i have some intense vibrations.
yer vibz are from your rear d/s angle.
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but after my yj was lifted i have some intense vibrations.
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yer vibz are from your rear d/s angle.
Yup Stumps right. You need to lower the t-case a bit or go SYE/CV or something will break soon.
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:01 PM   #7
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i have a 3 1/2 superlift on 33 you do have to cut the rear fender a little bit and take off the flares but it do look good
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Old 12-10-2008, 01:45 PM   #8
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Okay I know I sound funny and slightly tarded but i dont like it without flares sorry to say
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jonw605:
Rubicon Express makes a real nice 2.5" suspension lift kit that may be what you are looking for. 31" tires are no problem with this kit and it won't cost you a fortune in other mods to correct the things that changed. This kit isn't difficult to install. It should come with a front track bar relocation bracket to correct the geometry there. It should also come with 6 small plastic pucks for lowering your transfer case. This will eliminate the vibrations from the change in the rear pinion angle and will save you from breaking something like your U-joint.

It's also good to get shocks matched to the lift you get. You may want to get new bump stops and brake line extensions too, especially if you are going to install front sway bar disconnects (recommended!).

If you get bigger than 31" tires, you may notice that you start dogging on the hills. ReGearing is expensive, but should resolve your problems if you go to 33's or bigger. 31's should stay inside your stock flares and keep you legal in most states where they look for tires sticking out!
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Here's a couple pics of my 93 with the aforementioned Rubicon Express lift and 31's! (Both were at Rausch Creek)


You don't have to have a big lift and big tires to have fun!
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a soa application is far too advance for what you are lookin for, and i think jpdoc was just kiddin.



anywayz, you will be MUCH happier with 33's, and if ya get 31's, you will wish you hadnt a few weeks later.

to properly clear 33's, get a 3.5" suspension lift.
you wont have to do a sye kit, and its an eeasy install.

you wont have to worry about gears, try a superlift, rubicon express, rough country...

lift, rims, and tires you are lookin around $2000 just to give you an idea. (if you go all new)

if you decide to go with 31's, all you need is a shackle lift front and rear, which means you can keep your stock rims, and with shackels and 31's you are lookin around $750 (if you go all new)
actually no i'm serious. if he wants bang for the buck its the best leaf spring suspension there is for yj. if he wants to clear 33's properly its the best bet. 4" is min. on yj to clear them, and in my mind they're still stuffed. they need room if your gonna use it and let it flex. and 4" spring under rides like a tank. kidney buster.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:00 PM   #12
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Heres my wrangler the stuff hangin from my rear end is my factory fuel tank skid.... I cut it all the way off last night
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:20 PM   #13
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Nice 87yjwrangler! You must be in God's country cause you've got snow too
Thanks for the all the help! With my budget I think I'm gonna be leaning toward 31's. I know I know, 33's have their own place, but I just don't think it'll be in the budget. Thanks to chasm I'll probably be leaning toward the rubicon express...
thanks all, I'll keep ya up-to-date
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:36 PM   #14
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Yep no prob, and I HATE SNOW!, its fun to drift in and thats it....
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Nice 87yjwrangler! You must be in God's country cause you've got snow too
Thanks for the all the help! With my budget I think I'm gonna be leaning toward 31's. I know I know, 33's have their own place, but I just don't think it'll be in the budget. Thanks to chasm I'll probably be leaning toward the rubicon express...
thanks all, I'll keep ya up-to-date
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dude, a 2.5 re kit is expensive, almost as much as a 4" lift that will clear 33's

do a search/

go with the 33's and a 4" kit.

you only need shackles for 31's. extremely cheap
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dude, a 2.5 re kit is expensive, almost as much as a 4" lift that will clear 33's
do a search/
go with the 33's and a 4" kit.
you only need shackles for 31's. extremely cheap
Go to Quadratec.com and check out the various lifts. IMO, A full suspension lift kit with shocks for $780 isn't expensive. Yes, the 4" lift is only 40 bucks more. Bottom line: It's your Jeep, build it and wheel it the way you want it!

Call the folks at Quadratec and and ask them questions. Those guys all own Jeeps and know their stuff! I have had nothing but good experiences working with them.

jonw605: Send me a PM or e-mail if I can be of assistance to you with regard to the install or anything else. Just remember, opinions are like a$$holes... we all have them!

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