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Old 08-20-2009, 05:30 PM   #1
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Hi, just became a member of the forum, after finally deciding that a Jeep was the car I wanted next. Hopefully I can learn alot while here, but since I do not own one yet, I was hoping someone could give me their opinions on a Jeep I am looking at. It is a 1989 Jeep, asking $6750 (though I am thinking of trading him my car for his, since I could probably only sell mine for $6500.) It has 174,000 miles, is a 6-cyl, 4x4, Manual transmission. Here is his description in the listing:

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I am selling my 1989 Jeep Wrangler. I bought this thing from a friend of the family, his dad towed it behind his RV for almost 15 years. I have done a ton of upgrades to it since I got it bone stock. When I purchased it I had everything gone through since it was going to be, and has been, my daily driver up until my layoff. It ran great when I got it, but once they got into it, they did rebuild the transfer case on it ( I later found out that my friends dad had issues finding neutral on the the t-case, so he just put the tranny in neutral to pull it). The engine has almost all new hoses (water and vacuum). I had them go ahead and upgrade the carburator, which is a common problem on these (idles, runs great). I also had an Optima battery installed. I had planned on keeping this and passing it down to my son, but sometimes life throws you little curves. I started my own business and need something better suited to hauling clients around. Below is a list of cosmetic items I have had done: - Rough Country 3" suspension lift - new front suspension bushings, etc. - 2" body lift - light bar with 4 Hella's wired in - front Euro style push bumper/brush guard with 2 amber (fog) and 2 white (high beam aux) - black out grills on the head, tail and parking lamps - new front seats - add a trunk cover - black rims - grenade can center console w/ pad (correct height to actually use as an arm rest with tons more storage) - 50mm can on rear fender well for additional dry storage - under hood tuffy locking storage - new sound bar with Pioneer speaker - Kenwood AM/FM CD with aux in and out deck - Nice 33's with plenty of tread, but could easily fit 35's if you wanted - newer model family style roll bar It also comes with the stock console, tire carrier, a stock A/C controller/blower unit I purchased and never installed. I have the Hard top, hard doors, hard half doors, bikini top and cover that will all come with it. I would like cash, but would consider trading for a nice european sedan our coupe (BMW, Mercedes). I'm pretty firm on the price, but if you're seriously interested, let's talk. The only picks I have on it are: it could probably use a paint job if the faded paint bothers you, and if you were a serious crawler or want to go to something bigger than a 35", you would probably need to lower the gears (it tops out at about 75 running 2K rpm in 4th now, so it's good).
So, my question is, is this a reasonable price? The pictures look good, so general appearance I am not as concerned with since I will get a chance to look at it first hand anyways. Besides, looks can be fixed, I am more concerned with the mechanics. So, what do ya'll think? Thanks!

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Old 08-20-2009, 05:42 PM   #2
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First bit of advice! It's a Vehicle or a Jeep but never a car. Hehe


Where area are you from? That is a steep price......

You have any pics?

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Old 08-20-2009, 05:52 PM   #3
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if it was a 4.0 it would be way more appealing. he has obviously spent a lot of money on it, but that doesn't mean its worth that money. that is tip top dollar for a yj, a yj at that price should be pristine. it may however be a good deal if you wanna get rid of your car and this works. make sure you don't mind the 2" body lift, i hate the way they look.

so long story short, its a hi price, you may be able to find a 4.0 yj in good shap for half that and spend a few grand on it and make it exactly how you want it. the only downside is that carb, they are non stop problems.

but if you really like this one, and its a way for you to unload your car for something you want, thats pretty cool and doesn't work out all the time. just remember, make sure that its in as good of shape as it sounds. best 100 bux you can spend is taking it to a trusted mechanic and pay for a thorough inspection.
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x2 ... seems to be a steep price to me on a jeep not a car, post some pics if you can.
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:25 PM   #5
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Here are the pictures of the JEEP (lesson learned )from the ad:

















I am definitely leaning towards the trade because my vehicle is so hard to sell (99 Isuzu Vehicross). Trading would just be soo easy. But, I don't want to be getting ripped off. Thanks for the input so far, I really appreciate it!
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Also, even though his asking price is $6750, my vehicle could only pull $6500 on a really good day. Also, I asume a trade would save me money in fees and taxes, which should also be taken into account. So the price may be high, but taking that into account saves me personally about $750 I think. Unless I am greatly mistaken on the taxes, which is possible.

Basically, is $6000 too high also?
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Its a decent looking jeep. Price should be closer to 3500-4500. I would rather get a 1991 or newer with the fuel injection,
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:39 PM   #8
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I would ask to see what is under that carpet as it looks new. Did you take the time to look under it and kick the tires and frame?

Is this a dealer btw?
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I havent been out to look at it yet, was planning to do that on Saturday. We have been communicating via email as of now (it is a private seller). Here is something he said about the engine:

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It's the bullet proof 258 4.2 6cyl, with the Webber carb upgrade.
For what thats worth. Everything else has just been idle chat until I go actually take a look.

I'm taking it that pretty much nothin would make this a good deal though, which is extremely helpful to know. Thanks again!
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ugh, body lift. that may have the peugot trans also, which is a big downer. it could have either the peugot or the ax15 the latter of the two is desired.
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:50 PM   #11
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Very good looking jeep,but over priced
If your trading I am guessing this jeep
will be your daily driver.
If so for 6000 you can get a nice mid mod TJ
or a very nice moded fuel injected YJ

In our state you would not have to pay tax
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:52 PM   #12
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is that a sahara badge? kinda sucks it doesn't have sahara seats, and shouldn't the dash be a different color? and the door panels on the inside are different for sahara to.

oh, and no spare is a downer to.
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He does have the spare and most of the stock parts that he is going to give me, but after all the input from yall, I don't think I will be checking it out. If I am patient enough, something perfect for me is bound to come up, so I shouldn't be jumping on a bad deal.

Thanks a ton everyone!
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He does have the spare and most of the stock parts that he is going to give me, but after all the input from yall, I don't think I will be checking it out. If I am patient enough, something perfect for me is bound to come up, so I shouldn't be jumping on a bad deal.

Thanks a ton everyone!
If you really want a daily driver look for something 97+ but if your heart is set on a YJ then look for a fuel injected one as it will save you some headaches down the line.

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Old 08-21-2009, 12:19 AM   #15
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That's a lot of money for a 89...I have a 92 with new engine, trani, front dif with detroit locker, 4" skyjacker lift, rhino liner throughout, new soft top and many many other items and paid $4500. Just be patient, and you will find one for better price.
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get the vin# and have the dealer check for what tranny it has
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:46 PM   #17
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look it over with a fine tooth comb for god sake.Pull the rug and look.get under it and check the frame.... I have only had my POS for 4 weeks and i allready spent 4 grand trying to straighten it out.. it's a losing proposition..
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remember just its reall a labor of love i'm starting the operation of cancer removal not fun
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Old 08-23-2009, 04:50 AM   #19
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6700? YJ's are around 1500-2500 used, i dont see 5000 in upgrades.

Really? ill put a lift on my jeep (800) some fat tires on American racing rims used (500) a front pushbar (200) some ugly fog and driving lights (30) and sell it for 6700. Ill even deliver it to you. its a 94 with fuel injection and itll do 100 on the highway.
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I agree with what a lot of the other users have said. Its a good looking Jeep with a lot of extras, but the price is high. At least for Minnesota, which is where I'm from. Also, carbureted Wranglers have more vacuum lines than needed. I had a 90' with a 4.2L. I would look for a fuel injected (91' or newer) for closer to $3,000. In a tight economy, you can find them for that price. Not with as many extras, but with fewer miles on them and in as good of shape.

One final thing, in my opinion, Jeeps are hobbies. They can ge used every day, but I have never owned a Jeep I would feel comfortable putting 25,000 miles a year on. My advice to anyone buying a Jeep, is make sure that you don't mind turning wrenches and using a multi-meter. Like I said, they are hobbies and will require work.

Enjoy the Jeep and have fun!
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Heck that is why I bought it! Working on it is the best part! (Sometimes) LOL
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shoot my daily driver jeeps are the most dependable things on the road. every jeep i've owned i'd drive anywhere without a second thought
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shoot my daily driver jeeps are the most dependable things on the road. every jeep i've owned i'd drive anywhere without a second thought
I trust my heep more then anything in our drive way. Al tho my sisters Acura is a reliable beast but it can't get through a blizzard or climb over stuff. =P
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yeah my camaro is as reliable as my jeep but in winter she don't do me much good
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You guys are clearly hard core Jeepers and I love yeah for it, but you're kidding yourselves if you think Jeeps are reliable. Honda Accords are reliable. The Ford 300 in line six cylinder is a reliable engine. Jeeps are anything but reliable. All you guys know it too. If Jeeps were reliable, none of you guys would ever have to turn any wrenches on them. I have never met anyone who didn't have to repair their jeep.

And you're right. Jeeps are fun to work on. They're awesome toys. Thats why I got back into it. Considering what they are capable of, they're the most exciting vehicles to drive. They are not reliable.
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well i dont know about u but i have never owned a vehicle that i have not needed to turn a wrench on ever it just so happens that my yj is preaty reliable now its also in need of rot fix still but it always starts and always get me were i need to be regardless of any weather so whats the ford 300 got that my 4.2 inline six or docs 4.0 not have same idea so why is it any different i guess though everyone has their own opinion
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All it is is personal experiences. The 4.2 is a good engine design, but the one I had always had carburetor and vaccuum leak problems. I think the fuel injected 4.0 is the most reliable engine that Jeep made. I know several people who have gotten plus 200,000 miles on that engine. The only 4.2 that I have owned had a lot of little problems that amounted to more time fixing and less time wheel'n. The only 300 6 that I owned was very reliable. It was in a truck I drove in college. It was parked outside all year at one of the coldest shools in the country and it always started. I got rid of it because is was using oil in the end (close to 300,000 miles). it still started, but needed about a quart every other fill up.

It's all personal experiences. I'd buy another 4.2, just an older one without all the vaccuum lines. I'd definitely buy a 4.0. I love my Jeep and I'll never trade the Jeep life. I just will never call them reliable, because they aren't. Jeep owners who love Jeeps are good at fixing them. It's becuase they are interested in them, and love driving, working on, and playing with them. If they didn't need fixing, you wouldn't be good at working on them. Just an opinion.

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You guys are clearly hard core Jeepers and I love yeah for it, but you're kidding yourselves if you think Jeeps are reliable. Honda Accords are reliable. The Ford 300 in line six cylinder is a reliable engine. Jeeps are anything but reliable. All you guys know it too. If Jeeps were reliable, none of you guys would ever have to turn any wrenches on them. I have never met anyone who didn't have to repair their jeep.
Opinions are like AH's ...everyone has one. But completely disagree with you. My 94 YJ is mechanically sound. Any repairs have been the result of pushing the design limits or taking it places I thought I should try and go. The 4.0 under the hood has been and continues to be a great motor.
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Yeah, like I said, I think the 4.0 is a good motor. I went back and re-read the transcript and I should've said that the Jeeps that I have owned haven't been reliable. Sorry if I offended anybody.
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no we just like giving people crap and u left the door wide open for us to rip on u so no big deal

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