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Old 02-13-2008, 11:28 PM   #1
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My Ultimate YJ

I'm on a quest to build my untimate Jeep. It will ba a daily driver, as well as a MudSlut. Nothing major.

This is what I already have in mind. Any suggestions?

I'll start with a 92-95 YJ (5-speed trans). I'll pull the engine and swap it with a 318 from a ZJ, pull the trans and swap it with the NV4500.

A 2.5" RubiconExpress lift kit will be in order as well as a transfer case drop, along with a set of Cooper STT tires (32x11.5x15) mounted on American Racing AR-23 or Outlaw II wheels.

A custom dual exhaust from headers with dual Thrush Turbos. High-flow cats

Throttle body spacer

Custom Intake coming through the cowl between the hood and windshield. Its kinda "snorkel-esque", just not as gaudy(sp?)
I'll post drawing and instructions after it's complete.

I'm open to all advice, constructive criticism, etc...

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Good luck on the build.
I have a NV4500 in mine its really long so plan on doing an SYE or an Atlas to shorten up the drivetrain for that rear drive line angle. I would mount that V8 as far forward as allows.

Another suggestion is running bigger axles to back up that V8, if your like me in the mud you hammer down all the time. But I'm sure you have thought of all this already.

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Good luck on the build.
I have a NV4500 in mine its really long so plan on doing an SYE or an Atlas to shorten up the drivetrain for that rear drive line angle. I would mount that V8 as far forward as allows.

Another suggestion is running bigger axles to back up that V8, if your like me in the mud you hammer down all the time. But I'm sure you have thought of all this already.
I do hammer down ALL THE TIME!

I wasn't thinking of axle swaps, I was thinking about gearing. Would I be better of swapping to a dana44 rear or just re-gearing?

If gearing, what gears should I go with?

318ci, NV4500 trans and 32" tires
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do something about the 35 cause it will go BOOM! i suggest the 8.8. cheap and matches lug pattern, plus you can go disc which is nice in the mud.
also I suggest a different tire if playing in the mud, like the 33" TSL LTB $145
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Old 02-14-2008, 06:57 AM   #5
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do something about the 35 cause it will go BOOM! i suggest the 8.8. cheap and matches lug pattern, plus you can go disc which is nice in the mud.
also I suggest a different tire if playing in the mud, like the 33" TSL LTB $145
I was considering that. The 8.8 is from the Exploder right? I had a '96 Exploder that I sold to buy the '87 YJ.

My first choice for tires was actually the TSL, but I need a more pavement-capable rubber. If I was gonna strictly offroad this baby, I'd go with an I6 stroker, SOA and probably 35" TSLs.

This will be my daily driver, as well as a road-tripper. I have a 7hr drive to Canada every May for a pike fishing trip and a vacation to Long Beach Island in June/July to take my little sister down the shore, which is a 3hr drive.

Once I decided against the TSLs, I chose the Goodyear Wrangler MT/Rs, but I was informed by a friend who is restoring an '84 CJ7 that the MT/Rs have a softer rubber and require almost constant rotation because they wear rather poorly on the road. He runs the Cooper STTs, and the tread pattern is pretty much the same as the MT/R, but with better siping, which provides better traction on wet pavement. The STTs also cost less than the MT/Rs.

I'd say that I will probably only see the sloppy stuff about 3 times a month because of a busy work schedule, as I will be joining the Welder's and Pipefitter's Union hopefully by this summer.
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you will def need diff axle(s). the 35 wont hold up to a v-8

if the 318 is a late model (magnum) engine, save your money on the throttle body spacer, it will do nothing at all besides "woosh"

if you're going to the expense of an engine/tranny swap, spring the 250 bucks for a SYE. you're already gonna need a new driveshaft.
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you will def need diff axle(s). the 35 wont hold up to a v-8

if the 318 is a late model (magnum) engine, save your money on the throttle body spacer, it will do nothing at all besides "woosh"

if you're going to the expense of an engine/tranny swap, spring the 250 bucks for a SYE. you're already gonna need a new driveshaft.
Yea, I'm now realizing the importance of an 8.8 axle.

The engine will most likely come from a '92-'95 Grand Cherokee. Throttle body injection. I don't wanna screw around with EFI wiring crap. I don't have the patience nor the experience for it.

What would be the best SYE kit for the NV4500/318ci combo?
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if its TBI, the spacer might help. MPFI it will not on the 318.

im not sure on the best sye or how the stock tcase will hold up.
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couple things...one the 318 will put out some good power, i had a 93 ZJ with the 318 in it a while back and that thing was a beast.

You're deffinitely gonna want to think about swapping for a d44 or an 8.8 rear, especially if your playing in the mud.

The stock t-case (assuming its the 231) will be fine. ZJ's used that same t-case with the 318 on some models like the laredo i believe...i had a limited so i had the full time case so im not entirely sure but i know the laredo's usually came with the 231 case and i know they had the 318 as an option.

Lockers might also be something to think about as well.

Maybe even consider trying to find the 5.9L 360 V8 instead of the 318 That would be sick, but the downside is you have to use premium gas in it
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if its TBI, the spacer might help. MPFI it will not on the 318.

im not sure on the best sye or how the stock tcase will hold up.
Thanks again for the great input. I'll do some research on the SYE later tonight.
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Old 02-15-2008, 12:59 AM   #11
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couple things...one the 318 will put out some good power, i had a 93 ZJ with the 318 in it a while back and that thing was a beast.

You're deffinitely gonna want to think about swapping for a d44 or an 8.8 rear, especially if your playing in the mud.

The stock t-case (assuming its the 231) will be fine. ZJ's used that same t-case with the 318 on some models like the laredo i believe...i had a limited so i had the full time case so im not entirely sure but i know the laredo's usually came with the 231 case and i know they had the 318 as an option.

Lockers might also be something to think about as well.

Maybe even consider trying to find the 5.9L 360 V8 instead of the 318 That would be sick, but the downside is you have to use premium gas in it
I was hoping I could use a Dana44, I can get one from a trashed TJ easily.

Thanks for the transfer case info.

I have run premium fuel in every vehicle I've had, and don't mind paying the higher cost in trade for performance. I've even driven to PA to get fuel that doesn't have ethanol added; and the price in PA is about $0.30 more.

Not many people actually know (I'm sure that you guys do, of course) that fuel with higher octane burns slower, gaining better fuel ecomomy, as well as a cleaner burn.

I was going to buy a '97 Dodge Ram 1500 with the 360ci, bt then I caught the Jeep Bug haha. I can find a 318ci easier than a 360. I know a junkyard owner who has several 318s from ZJs that he's already rebuilt.

I get guys that say, "Oh don't swap a 318. Go with a 350 small block!"

I want to be original; I've never seen a YJ with a 318 under the hood. I'm sure people have done it, but its much more rare. It seems like everyone and their mother swaps in a 350 nowadays. I know that Chevy small blocks are very reliable and are among the easiest to swap in, but I wanna keep my project in the Chrystler family, which is why I'd rather swap in a Dana44 instead of the Exploder 8.8 axle.

I seem to be a bit OCD about these things haha.
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I get guys that say, "Oh don't swap a 318. Go with a 350 small block!"

I want to be original; I've never seen a YJ with a 318 under the hood. I'm sure people have done it, but its much more rare. It seems like everyone and their mother swaps in a 350 nowadays. I know that Chevy small blocks are very reliable and are among the easiest to swap in, but I wanna keep my project in the Chrystler family, which is why I'd rather swap in a Dana44 instead of the Exploder 8.8 axle.


Im completely agree with your idea. I'd probably do the same thing and keep the jeep all mopar if i was you too.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:34 PM   #13
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Im completely agree with your idea. I'd probably do the same thing and keep the jeep all mopar if i was you too.
You are a true Jeeper. Keep it in the same corporation, dammit! LOL
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So many mods planned for the upcoming YJ:
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Massey Ferguason Grey body
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lots more...

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Old 02-15-2008, 11:37 PM   #14
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MOPAR:

Mostly
Old
Parts
And
Rust

haha

CHEVROLET:

Cracked
Heads
Every
Valve
Rusted
Oil
Leaks
Every
Time

FORD

Found
On
Road
Dead

Fucked
On
Race
Day

Fix
Or
Repair
Daily

and backwards!

Driver
Returns
On
Foot

sorry, just a little rant lol
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Why spend all the money on a v8 and nv4500 if your only going to run 32 or 33's??
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Why spend all the money on a v8 and nv4500 if your only going to run 32 or 33's??
That was my thought, as well.
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Cause the thing would haul major ass

But seriously i think he just wants to do something unique with his jeep.

By the way i just looked up the 360 from my local junk yard (which happens to be in my town and specializes in jeep parts, im lucky) and they had a bunch for about 600 bucks, no more than a 318.
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I do want to be unique. I'm only running 32s because it's a daily driver. I can't have a Jeep thats lifted to the sky.
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Why spend all the money on a v8 and nv4500 if your only going to run 32 or 33's??

That was my thought, as well.
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Why spend all the money on a v8 and nv4500 if your only going to run 32 or 33's??
more power would make it easier to keep those wheels spinning in that sticky stuff. and they sound nice
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Sounds like a cool plan. I've never seen a 318 in a YJ before. As for the SYE, I would probabily buy the Advance Adapters one if it was me.
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2 year old thread is 2 years old.
Dana 35 was standard in the Grand Cherokee behind the 318. Haven't blown mine yet...

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