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Old 03-19-2010, 09:25 PM   #1
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Napa parts = disappointment

So I'm replacing the cooling system on my 'new' 135k 95 YJ 4cyl/5spd.

It's apparent that the previous/original owner did nothing remotely resembling maintenance to this thing other than change the oil, so I'm doing the entire cooling system as PM (the radiator fins basically disintegrated when touched, coolant smelled like...not good things, wouldn't get above 150*, etc...it needed it).

I order everything from Napa with the exception of the radiator (radiatorbarn.com).

The parts are just junk.

"remanufactured" water pump:


Look at the rough edges, and WTF is the "channel" cutouts near my thumb, by the heater pipe flange?? That doesn't look like it would leak a week after you bolt everything back together...

Nice to at least clean the old paint off; really inspires confidence and implies quality:


In comparison, look at the fit/finish on the OEM, 135 thousand mile, neglected/never-changed-coolant water pump:


I'm also returning the crap thermostat (no vent hole, and I'm not drilling one), the lower hose (mushy, and no internal spring) and the upper hose (at least 3" shorter than the OEM one).



Anyone else had a similar experience? For my XJ's I used Jeep parts for the hoses/tstats/etc...where can I get OEM parts online for teh cheep??

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Old 03-19-2010, 10:31 PM   #2
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And here I was going to spend the extra money on some things and get them at Napa.
I just got some ignition parts from Advanced auto parts and got them online. Free shipping if over $75 and right now a $20 rebate. A few days ago they had 10% discount when I ordered.

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Old 03-19-2010, 10:40 PM   #3
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You think that is bad... It's gotten progressively worse. I worked at NAPA for 12 years... Back in the day we had "Rayloc" brand rebuilt parts (alternators, starters, pumps, etc) and they were hit and miss except for the alternators which were ALL junk. Now most of NAPA's rebuilt stuff is A1Cardone. The problem is that there is a lot of parts stores that all carry parts remanufactured by Cardone. Your best bet is new parts with a lifetime warranty.

NAPA usually carries multiple lines of parts... Rebuilt and new. And sometimes, you need to ask because the parts guys sometime just default to remaned parts because they are cheap. And most of the time the parts guys are tired of hearing people gripe about the price. You'd be surprised, the new parts aren't much more expensive. Bottom line, you can by a $60 remaned part 2 times a year or you can spend $100 once and never have to pay for another replacement again.
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Old 03-19-2010, 11:45 PM   #4
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Wait, parts guys get tired of hearing people complain about the price???

When I HAVE to buy OEM parts from the stealership, I ALWAYS go all Fred Sanford on their ass (I'm coming Elizabeth) and generally bitch about the prices they are gouging me on (you puttin' your kid thru college selling me that, are you?)

Now, I walk in and the guy says " you are getting 15% off Larry".

Maybe I'm just lucky...
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Old 03-20-2010, 01:24 AM   #5
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i go to jeepsareus for online oem parts.
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Old 03-20-2010, 12:59 PM   #6
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I get a lot of parts at O'Reilly's, usually they have several prices for parts, I never get the cheaper stuff, its mostly crap
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Old 04-03-2010, 08:24 PM   #7
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New Bosch, lifetime warranty, $4 more:



Napa.
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Old 04-04-2010, 10:46 AM   #8
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Atta boy.

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