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Old 04-16-2011, 09:20 PM   #1
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A little background info first: 93 YJ 4.0 on 31s not looking to go any bigger tire wise. Everything on Jeep is stock and the track bars are off. I am looking to go with a 2.5 inch sua lift and 1 inch shackle lift. No Body lift and no plans for one. This is a DD with Trail Duties on the weekends. I live in flat country so mud, clay, and water crossings are the norm. Trails are mild at best however the gumbo mud and clay can be a pain. At this point I get where I need to just fine so I am not wanting the lift to overcome an inability.


This is the purposed setup: RC 2.5" lift with nitros, 1" boom shackles, new stabilizer, and sway bar discos.


My thoughts on the setup.... I am doing the 1" shackle to counteract the weight of soon to be adding winch and Bumper ( make sense? ). The discos are going on because I like flex and helps keeps the tires on the ground. The stock leafs are flatter than most of the trails I ride so they need to be replaced. I will not be trying the clear 36s or crawl over a small mountain. Most of the real work will be done in the mud, clay, water, and sand. I want to be as sure footed as I can be. Any advise or opinions welcome. I don't have vibs, rattles, shimmies, and shakes and want to keep it that way.

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sounds good! I ran before the lift for quite a while, best thing is to keep good tires on 'er. No matter what situation, good grip can make a ton of difference. Even without a lift you can push through some crazy deep mud and/or snow. I had snow up higher than the bottom of my doors and pushed right along easy in 4h.

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Old 04-20-2011, 05:43 PM   #3
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Thanks sevenservices for the response

Okay after all the other responses and great advice

Things have changed a little. I am going to go with OME and run rear 5 leaf packs both front and rear as well as their shackles and greasable bushings. Nitros on all corners, nitro steering stabilizer, Daystar greasable bushings for the main eyes and JKS discos. As a side note its cheaper to buy the lift by the piece then in the kit. After talking to an ARB rep ( Great CS ) I was told the everything would work and work well together. Will post a review once I am done. Going with OME has set my project back a couple weeks but i think it will be worth it.
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:58 PM   #4
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just curious and.it would save ya a tone of money, why don't you yj owners just do a spring over kit, the brackets to do this ain't that much and it will give ya a couple inches by itself. Then all ya would need is break lines, shocks, and maybe a tranny drop. You talkin what ? Maybe 500 bucks and a ride as good as stock if not better with the right shocks..

Am I missin something?
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Old 04-20-2011, 05:59 PM   #5
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you know stock springs are supposed to be flat right?
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They are? When it comes to springs I'm used to older trucks and they have always been arched.. even stock
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:10 PM   #7
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Basically it boils down to my suspension needs to be replaced. Going back SUA is just a personal preference. I am more of a LCOG guy then a look how high my ride is. 12" of diff clearance is 12" of diff clearance SOA OR SUA .
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ive heard good things about ome but never ran it personally. if you dont want bigger tires why the lift? there are plenty of other reasons im just curious. im going soa soon. that sounds like the same kind of duty my rig sees, dd with weekend mud duty i want my lift to clear 36s but also to get my jeep up out of the mud and water.
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Basically it boils down to my suspension needs to be replaced. Going back SUA is just a personal preference. I am more of a LCOG guy then a look how high my ride is. 12" of diff clearance is 12" of diff clearance SOA OR SUA .
English please, soa? Sua? Lcog?
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spring over axle, spring under axle, and low center of gravity.
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just curious and.it would save ya a tone of money, why don't you yj owners just do a spring over kit, the brackets to do this ain't that much and it will give ya a couple inches by itself. Then all ya would need is break lines, shocks, and maybe a tranny drop. You talkin what ? Maybe 500 bucks and a ride as good as stock if not better with the right shocks..

Am I missin something?
Cuz when done correctly soa is still around a grand. Going from stock to soa I think nets 5.5ish inches of lift whit could clear 35s and is not so much of an lcog lift. Now I have 4"s total of lift and I am going to do a 1" body lift with mml and tummy tuck and then remove my 1" lift shackles so I have more center clearence same amount of lift and throw on some metalcloak fenders to clear 35s!

I think you have a pretty good plan so far what about a compressor? To air up tires? Airing down can be the difference between winching or not winching!
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Basically it boils down to my suspension needs to be replaced. Going back SUA is just a personal preference. I am more of a LCOG guy then a look how high my ride is. 12" of diff clearance is 12" of diff clearance SOA OR SUA .
Oh and for us "crazy" sua guys have you looked at a u bolt flip kit?
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Oh and for us "crazy" sua guys have you looked at a u bolt flip kit?
Never said you guys were crazy SOA is just not my thing neither is being stock so I want a lift just not one that is as involved or as stressful on other parts. This is just a personal preference. Thanks again for the responses
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In Your case especially if you don't wanna go bigger tires, your best bet may be just a 2in body and call it done.. just a thought is all
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In Your case especially if you don't wanna go bigger tires, your best bet may be just a 2in body and call it done.. just a thought is all
If my suspension was good I wouldn't do anything but since it needs to be replaced I figured I would go ahead and do the OME lift. I also have plans to add a winch bumper so the lift will help it keep it's nose up. Biggest thing is keeping it trail ready and hwy drivable for now anyways.
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If my suspension was good I wouldn't do anything but since it needs to be replaced I figured I would go ahead and do the OME lift. I also have plans to add a winch bumper so the lift will help it keep it's nose up. Biggest thing is keeping it trail ready and hwy drivable for now anyways.
Understandable, I missed the part about your suspension being wore out.
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ome is very nice. your set ups sounds good to me. (not that i know alot, i ride stock)

back when i did lifts on all the jeeps we had, ome was the nicest riding set up we had
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Update lift is on

Okay so it's about 12:30 EST and I am done... Started at about 4:00 and finished about 11:30 so when they say 6-8 hours they mean it. The OME 2.5 lift has a great ride and I can confirm that the rear springs will work on the front for those who want to run a 5 leaf set front and back. I gained about 4 inches total with the lift from stock flat almost frowning springs. I am sure it will settle a little. I will post picks once the sun comes up. Also wanted to say Daystar shackles are great to I am really like the greaseable rock crushers.
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So just to clarify you went with 2.5 in lift springs and 1" shackles? How much did the OME springs run? And do you have any vibrations now?
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congrats mud on the set up. i just put on a 2.5"RC lift and it took me about double that time as i had to sawzall every last stinking perch bolt.....it sucked!!!!!!! you definiately made a good choice with OME.......
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So just to clarify you went with 2.5 in lift springs and 1" shackles? How much did the OME springs run? And do you have any vibrations now?
I decided to go with 0" lift shackles and the leafs ran me 96.99 each @ quadratec . No vibrations fingers crossed

Like I said above I can confirm that the rear heavy OME springs will work front and back. On a side note I did have to shim my rear to improve the drive line angle and give clearance for the rear shocks. The shims were included in the rancho u-bolt hardware.
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Updated with Pictures

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