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Old 11-08-2010, 06:50 PM   #1
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New guy with first jeep/suggestions?

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Just got my first jeep and intend to make it my mountain/hunting vehicle. It's a '90 jeep wrangler islander with just over 100k. Runs strong and clean and has some extras. It has the hard top new tires with the v6 engine. I live to hunt and go farther than the other guy and explore remote areas.

I have basic mechanical skills but access to some buddies who are pretty good. Just looking for suggestions or ideas for making it a Bada%$ mountain truck. If you have ideas send them my way and if you had pics that would be awesome. Thanks.

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Old 11-08-2010, 06:54 PM   #2
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lift, tires, lockers, heavier axles, etc.

and you have an inline 6 cylinder.

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how much lift? Can you flip the axles so the springs ride on top? If that's a stupid question just remember I'm the village idiot mechanic. Turning to the pros.
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lift, tires, lockers, heavier axles, etc.

and you have an inline 6 cylinder.
yea v6 doesnt equal I6 (inline 6), seems like nitpicking but believe me it makes all the difference.

Your're gonna want to do a once over before you start modding and adding. I would start by changing all fluids (rear and front differential fluids, oil, transmission fluid, transfer case fluid), next I would check your battery cables for corrosion and replace and clean as necessary, I would replace your spark plugs, rotor and distribution cap, I would visually inspect every visible inch of your frame for any rot/rust, check and make sure your 4 wheel drive is actually working (if you put it into 4HI and attempt to drive in a tight circle on a paved surface the jeep will jump around and the steering wheel will fight you, if it drives normally then you may have a vacuum problem with your 4x4 which happens to be a common issue with YJs)
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how much lift? Can you flip the axles so the springs ride on top? If that's a stupid question just remember I'm the village idiot mechanic. Turning to the pros.
Yes its called spring over axle, SOA for short and it requires some minor welding but is a common mod that many on this forum swear by. I hear you can get 5.5 inches out of that kind of lift.
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you can do a SOA lift. It's cheaper but you have to find a good welder to weld the new brackets on top of the axles. Rough country sells them.

4 inches is about as high as you can go before having to upgrade other stuff. Driveshafts, sye, etc.
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also do yourself a favor and pick up a chiltons or haynes manual for the jeep and a toolkit, if you want to hit the trail believe me you are going to need em
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yea v6 doesnt equal I6 (inline 6), seems like nitpicking but believe me it makes all the difference.

Your're gonna want to do a once over before you start modding and adding. I would start by changing all fluids (rear and front differential fluids, oil, transmission fluid, transfer case fluid), next I would check your battery cables for corrosion and replace and clean as necessary, I would replace your spark plugs, rotor and distribution cap, I would visually inspect every visible inch of your frame for any rot/rust, check and make sure your 4 wheel drive is actually working (if you put it into 4HI and attempt to drive in a tight circle on a paved surface the jeep will jump around and the steering wheel will fight you, if it drives normally then you may have a vacuum problem with your 4x4 which happens to be a common issue with YJs)
x2 on the maintenance.
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you can do a SOA lift. It's cheaper but you have to find a good welder to weld the new brackets on top of the axles. Rough country sells them.

4 inches is about as high as you can go before having to upgrade other stuff. Driveshafts, sye, etc.
and to piggyback on RSC17 ive heard people needing slip yoke eliminator(SYE) kits after 3 inches of lift, food for thought
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K i'm on the right track so far. I changed plugs oil and air filter today (mainly to be sure I pass emissions). Rear and Front differentials along with other fluids this weekend. So far haven't found the rust anywhere yet.
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K i'm on the right track so far. I changed plugs oil and air filter today (mainly to be sure I pass emissions). Rear and Front differentials along with other fluids this weekend. So far haven't found the rust anywhere yet.
I forgot to mention replace spark plug cables as well
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What axles do you suggest? Also is the SOA lift a decent way to go or is it faking the funk and asking for trouble later on?
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What axles do you suggest? Also is the SOA lift a decent way to go or is it faking the funk and asking for trouble later on?
Oh no, SOA is for sure the way to go however it requires that you have a knowledge of welding and an understanding of the axles and suspension systems of a YJ.

As an alternative you can install a lift kit and get the same results, which in my opinion is the easier route.

Either way you are going to want to upgrade the axles AND the differential gear ratios. You can go as big as a Ford 9inch or 8.8 axle out of an Ford explorer or get a super 35 axle kit. Either way, the stock dana35 is good for stock tires but anything larger it starts to get weak very fast.
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Thanks a lot. You have no idea how many forums I've been on where you can't get answers cuz the guys are trying to hard to be cool. Thanks a ton for the info I think i've got some projects to last me a little while. Do you have a lift kit you'd recommend?
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Are we talking about a body or suspension lift?
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The above link is to a thread full of suspension lift reviews.
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A gun rack.
Jeep Wrangler Gun Racks - JCWhitney

I've seen a lot of guys mod their own. I know I've seen it done on these forums, but it was awhile ago.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:50 AM   #19
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The gun rack is a must and was thinking of the cabelas model that bolts to the floor board and is angle adjustable.
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i have the RE XD 4.5" LIFT,..1/4" currie boomerang shackles front and rear! wheel spacers 32mm (spidertrax) makes wheelbase wider as ive got higher centre of balance is important! removed swaybar and front and rear trackbars, not needed and give u about 30% better ride and flex! all sitting on 33" muds...here in the UK we dont have access to the axles as easy as u yanks so i strenghtened the D35 with some chromoly axle shafts from crown (quadratec $330!) and a powertrax no-slip locker ($420) shes unstoppable! never had any issues in 3 yrs....
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Im in the same boat brother, I hunt like crazy from dec to feb. I live in east tn where its hilly as all hell. I use a 95 YJ cause you cant get a truck in as tight of places as a jeep or get turned around. I dont have alot of lift 2 1/4" is all. I dont need much for where i go. I dont know what kind of hunting you do but i duck hunt every day i can and one piece i have got to get is one of those rack do hickeys that goes in your receiver. I would strap my decoy bag to it but you could also strap deer stands or turkey blinds or whatever. That and some way to secure you guns would be good. I take my back seat out for hunting season. A hard top would be better also. Its a pain in the butt getting things in and out of the back with that plastic window. The plastic window sux. If you have a console in it it wont be long before you tare it out. Its better to lay you guns between the seats than fool with that dang back window. But they need to be in a case or they will get beat up pretty bad when off road.
I would do a complete fluid change. differentials, oil, transfer, tranny. You never can tell what the guy before you changed or didnt. If you change your tranny fluid dont put what the owners manual says, its wrong. Put redline MTL or 30 weight motor oil, I have been running sae 30 rotella lately. Gonna put MTL in it in about 20000 miles. It shifts much better now than when i had 75 90 differential fluid in it.
Good luck with the mods you do to make it more huntable.
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If you have a hard top, I'd mount some roof rack rails, and get a roof rack. When I've gone hunting with my jeep (generally take the ram 1500,) it's always been a hassle bringing a deer back home. I usually bring a giant plastic sheet and wrap it up. With a roof rack, it would make it a lot easier to strap a deer up there.

Other option is a hitch mounted rack, but I've always hated those. They are always in the way.

Thinking about it, I've also hung it over the spare...but that's fairly annoying too.
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Two free things you can do and also two very great improvements is the nutter by pass and the frt diff vacuum bypass.

here are the links to do them .

feel free to call me if you have any questions.

This is a Picture Guide to Nutter Bypass - JeepForum.com


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Old 11-09-2010, 09:30 PM   #24
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Thanks guys keep them coming. I hunt a lot for elk and mulies but try to travel a little light in the gear department but we've be talking about changing tactics. We've been thinking of going a little more remote and hauling a wall tent for comfort. Thats where I think the roof racks would come in. Also they'd serve for taking elk quarters out. Have you guys had any problems with the racks that go in the hitch dragging in rougher country?
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K for the idiot what does the nutter bypass and frt diff vac bypass do for ya? Right Now I'm having to put a new catalytic converter in to pass emissions. Hating that since I'd like to spend the money elsewhere but what can you do when the GORE types worry about the air??
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K for the idiot what does the nutter bypass and frt diff vac bypass do for ya? Right Now I'm having to put a new catalytic converter in to pass emissions. Hating that since I'd like to spend the money elsewhere but what can you do when the GORE types worry about the air??
Check if there is a high flow system. This might give you more power. I'm very new also, and I could be wrong, but it's worth a look.
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:34 PM   #27
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check this out too:

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check this out too:

Ford 8.8 Axle in YJ
That's a great write up ya found there. Just put it in my bookmarks.

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