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Old 07-26-2014, 12:49 PM   #1
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New to YJ!!

Hey guys! I am buying a YJ very soon so i thought i'd join. In my search I read several threads and they saved me from making some less than good deals. So thank you!

Now the YJ I should be buying is a 95. What are some mods I should do to it out of the gate? I know i'll bracket mirrors on (its hot as hell here in ga, who would want doors on?!?!). I'll eventually lift it.

Regarding the lift, i was thinking 3in rough country and putting 33's on it. But I've read id have to regear. Thoughts?

Last but not least, would you all recommend I take my jeep to get it lifted or do it myself? I'm decently capable of that kinda stuff.

Thanks!

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MODs it's up to you and its your Jeep. But some easy ones are LEDs behind the instrument panel. Is it a 2.5l or 4.o?

Lift- rough country says it in the name for ride quality-Rough. Search here in the forum for peoples suggestions. And DIY dont pay to get it installed. I prefer to do as much work as I can myself for 2 reasons. 1 saves $ and 2 you know how to do it later if something were to break.
Regear yes it would help. Especially of you have the 2.5l. And if you plan on doing wheeling and doing some offroading then you might want to look into swapping out the rear axle if its still the stock Dana 35.

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Old 07-26-2014, 02:45 PM   #3
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I have the 2.5.

I've read some things about over the axel lifts? opinions?
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Axles I suggest F8.8 its easy ive done it myself in my garage and tons of write ups.

Lifts I do not suggest Rough Country, or Pro Comp. They are rough rides. I havent had experience with Rubicon Express but many others have had great experience from them.
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Old 07-26-2014, 03:10 PM   #5
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I have a 2.5 procomp lift rides smooth s all get out ain't no caddy but ain't bad had a rough country it was rough until it broke
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Old 07-26-2014, 03:27 PM   #6
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I have a 4 inch RC lift it was good for the price it's not to stiff or rough riding ..
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Old 07-26-2014, 08:21 PM   #7
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On a Soa how much lift would that give me?

Should I take off sway bars and track bars?
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Old 07-26-2014, 08:54 PM   #8
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Also what extra stuff would I have to do? Lengthen drive shaft or brake lines?
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:59 PM   #9
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A SOA lift will give 5-6". You'll need new brake lines, high steer, slip yoke eliminator, traction bar, rear drive shaft, I'd do a rear axle too, because the D35 won't take the tires you can fit with a SOA.

Also, the 4 banger won't like lift and tires without a gear swap. 31s-32s are pushing the limits of the 2.5 and stock gears.

Unless you are willing to do a bit of work, I'd keep it small. With a good spring under lift, like Old Man Emu or BDS, and 31s, maybe 33s. You'll keep a good ride and it'll still be good off road and on.
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Old 07-27-2014, 11:46 AM   #10
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So overall if i decided to do a SOA how much would it cost me excluding the new wheels and tires?
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:35 PM   #11
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SYE: $200, driveshaft: around $270-300, high steer: $150-500 depending on what you do, Trac bar: free-whatever materials cost, brake lines: mine were $50 from the parts store, spring perches: lets say $50 on the high end. Shocks for probably $200 for good ones long enough for SOA. Then you might be looking at springs to replace worn out stockers, a new rear end maybe, gears.
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SYE: $200, driveshaft: around $270-300, high steer: $150-500 depending on what you do, Trac bar: free-whatever materials cost, brake lines: mine were $50 from the parts store, spring perches: lets say $50 on the high end. Shocks for probably $200 for good ones long enough for SOA. Then you might be looking at springs to replace worn out stockers, a new rear end maybe, gears.
to sum that up...two to three times the cost of a 2.5" lift kit. That is assuming you do all of the work yourself.
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Old 07-28-2014, 10:30 PM   #13
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Ive decided to not do an SOA. thinking about a 4 inch lift. Thinking a Rubicon Express Standard Kit 4 inches. Thoughts? Are there better lifts to buy?
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I've got an RE 4.5" with RE shocks and quick discos (always disco-ed now) and love it. Nice ride and flexible too. Recommend it.

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Old 07-29-2014, 10:07 AM   #15
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Im thinking ill do the 4 inch. Now should i regear immediately ?
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what ratio would i want to do?


sorry for all the questions...im very new to this haha
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Sometimes it's best to drive it around for a few months and decide what type of mod you want to do first. Everyone wants a lift because they look cool, but you might find that the drivers seat is super uncomfortable and want a new one, or you might find that the PO neglected some maintenance and you want to do that first. You might find that making sure it's semi-reliable before throwing a bunch of extra parts on gives a bit of peace of mind.

I got my YJ a few months ago and I was excited about putting a lift on... turned out I spent the money on new seats, new locking center console, new brakes, a bunch of seals that were leaking, u-joints, normal tune-up parts, and I'm still not done yet. I have to drop the oil pan and transmission pan because they are both leaking.
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Sometimes it's best to drive it around for a few months and decide what type of mod you want to do first. Everyone wants a lift because they look cool, but you might find that the drivers seat is super uncomfortable and want a new one, or you might find that the PO neglected some maintenance and you want to do that first. You might find that making sure it's semi-reliable before throwing a bunch of extra parts on gives a bit of peace of mind.

I got my YJ a few months ago and I was excited about putting a lift on... turned out I spent the money on new seats, new locking center console, new brakes, a bunch of seals that were leaking, u-joints, normal tune-up parts, and I'm still not done yet. I have to drop the oil pan and transmission pan because they are both leaking.
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This is good advice from saberworks.

Also, if 33s is your end goal, you can get there several different ways. I personally like lower lifts, as they have several advantages (smoother ride, easier to get into/out of the Jeep, no SYE needed, etc), but will require other changes.

A 2" or 2.5" Lift Kit + 1" body lift + TJ Flares will fit 33s easily. The rear wheel well is tight on YJs. TJ flares and a little sheetmetal cutting opens it up and looks better too. You could use a 1/2" lift shackle if needed, for a little more lift.

I currently run 35s with a 2.5" lift + 1" body lift + tube fenders.

Before, I had 32s with a 2" lift + 1" body lift + TJ Flares (and I could have fit 33s easily!) I didn't use 5th gear at all, but my 2.5L with 4.10 gears was mostly acceptable with 32s.
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:31 AM   #19
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Saber works, what center console did you put in? I heard a lot don't fit very well
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As a new YJ owner myself I want to also echo what has been said. Drive it for a while. More than likely you have some neglected " catch up " maintenance to do. Get a good manual and change every fluid and do every thing applicable to how many miles you have on your new toy. Lifts and add on's are sexy but they won't get you down the road. There will be time for sexy but make sure it is safe and road worthy for you and your family first.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:05 AM   #21
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I ended up buying this tuffy one: Tuffy Security Products Security Console Series II 6 1/2" Wide Black - 023-01

The fit is good, the quality is good, and I think it looks good. The installation hardware does not work (not enough thread on the bolts) so I had to run to a hardware store to get some that would work.

Regarding the console that was in there when I bought it: I think it was OEM but the entire locking mechanism had been ripped out and the lid was broken at the hinges (but glued back together with some sort of epoxy). It was a brittle, thin plastic.
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I will echo what is being said as well. I did it backwards... I got the jeep, the lift, the tires. Then after I got down the road to Uwharrie I broke a rear shock mount due to rust... Then had to change some old brake lines. Then replaced the distributer, then replaced the serpentine belt, new radiator hoses, new brake pads.... This list goes on. But I wish I have fixed all that before the lift and tires but my eyes told me it needed that more than the other. Then I was stuck in parking lots or on the side of the road a lot due to not handling the small issues first. But hey now that I look back, at least it was a lifted jeep that stuck me on the side of the road. Plus me and jeep bonded over all the broken down moments.
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The jeep is mechanically sound. New hoses, fluids, radiator, thermostat--- almost everything is new. Just need to replace one sensor.

Because of college I have to wait for a lift and it'd be a waste for the tires I have (90% tread left) go to waste.

I buying a center console -- thanks for the recommendation saberworks!!--- but I'd like some spot lights. recommendations?
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This is good advice from saberworks.

Also, if 33s is your end goal, you can get there several different ways. I personally like lower lifts, as they have several advantages (smoother ride, easier to get into/out of the Jeep, no SYE needed, etc), but will require other changes.

A 2" or 2.5" Lift Kit + 1" body lift + TJ Flares will fit 33s easily. The rear wheel well is tight on YJs. TJ flares and a little sheetmetal cutting opens it up and looks better too. You could use a 1/2" lift shackle if needed, for a little more lift.

I currently run 35s with a 2.5" lift + 1" body lift + tube fenders.

Before, I had 32s with a 2" lift + 1" body lift + TJ Flares (and I could have fit 33s easily!) I didn't use 5th gear at all, but my 2.5L with 4.10 gears was mostly acceptable with 32s.

I agree, I'm running a 3" lift with 33's! As smooth as my CJ was with no lift and 31's.

I would ride the jeep around for a couple weeks and fine tune the engine wherever necessary, then start accessorizing that bad boy! There is always something to fix $$$ with a Jeep, but you gotta Love it!!!
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Old 08-05-2014, 10:04 PM   #25
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That some good advice. ill do that. i do want some spot lights... recommendations?
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My '93 with a 3" lift and 33's is the perfect set up man, I have rubicon fender flares on mine too (the PO did all this but I'm happy with it). Now I'm in the same boat as you, trying to find my own MODs to add to it.
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My '93 with a 3" lift and 33's is the perfect set up man, I have rubicon fender flares on mine too (the PO did all this but I'm happy with it). Now I'm in the same boat as you, trying to find my own MODs to add to it.
Is that a 2.5l or 4.0? I've got a 2.5 with a 3" lift. I'm thinking of getting 33s but I'm a little concerned that it'll be underpowered. I had 35s on before and that was way underpowered.
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Is that a 2.5l or 4.0? I've got a 2.5 with a 3" lift. I'm thinking of getting 33s but I'm a little concerned that it'll be underpowered. I had 35s on before and that was way underpowered.
it's 4.0, I'm not sure how a 2.5 would do!
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it's 4.0, I'm not sure how a 2.5 would do!
I'm going to go with 31s. From what I've read that's the biggest a 2.5l will handle well and from pics I've seen it'll still look good on a 3 in lift.
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it's 4.0, I'm not sure how a 2.5 would do!
I'm thinking I'll go with 31s. From what I've read that's the biggest a 2.5l will handle well and from the pics I've seen it'll still look good.

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