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Old 05-01-2012, 07:04 PM   #1
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Noob needs help determining value on 89 YJ

Hi gang,

new member ad first post here. I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a 89 YJ, manual, 4wd, 4.2, 175,000 miles. I have been looking at craigslist, ebay, classifieds and the prices are all over the pace.

It currently wont pass smog, soft top is missing, no rear seat, no radio, needs carpet and seat covers at a minimum. It drives pretty well, occasionally pops out of gear and overall is in good physical shape. Minimal rust, straight body, bikini top and half doors with sliding glass windows.

I'm having a jeep specialist do a pre-purchase inspection done next week to see what's good and whats bad.

I'm really only looking for a baseline idea of what it's worth. It's the original owner and according to him, the engine and trans have always been well taken care or. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Forgot to mention, it's bone stock.

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I paid 3k for a 88 w/4.2, ac, hardtop, full doors, auto, 2.5" lift, 33" tires, no back seat. Needs a paint job but otherwise it's in good shape with only surface rust. After a carb rebuild and some vac line work it runs great. Hope that helps

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I'm a bad example, but I paid $300 for an 89 4.2l auto with 155k, hardtop, full doors, a/c (though i dont believe it works), aftermarket wheels with real good tread 31's. Other than some surface rust and some rot at the rear frame its in pretty good shape.
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I'm a bad example, but I paid $300 for an 89 4.2l auto with 155k, hardtop, full doors, a/c (though i dont believe it works), aftermarket wheels with real good tread 31's. Other than some surface rust and some rot at the rear frame its in pretty good shape.
Sweet! I'll offer $300! That was a HUGE help!

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Thanks that makes me feel good about my purchase.
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It all goes on what they bring in your area, down in Louisiana it's about $2,000 to $3,000, if it had A/C power steering and auto trans hard top, half doors, w/hard half door tops, and a good soft top, receiver hitch, and No Rust, 100,000 miles, about $4,000. it's just what ever it will bring where you are, shop around and see what they sell for. Good luck!
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:35 PM   #7
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Haha, I told you I'm a bad example. It all depends on your area and how much the seller knows about the value of their jeep. From what you described it sounds pretty good. I wouldn't bother with the carpet, just rip it out if its still in there. As far as seats, covers are fine but IMO the yj seats are just uncomfortable. A pair of Chevy cavalier or Pontiac sunfire 2dr seats will bolt right in and are much more comfortable. They can be had for @ $50 at a local junkyard. Depending on where you're located not having a top can be a big deal.

You said you're having someone who knows jeeps come with you so they should know what to look for and can advise you. Good luck
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Run from this car seriously, doesn't pass smog!?!? Its carbureted, right. You live in CA. Tell them if they give you $2k you will take it off there hands. You will still lose. Are you going to tube buggy this thing, or make it street legal? And it needs a tranny it sounds like. Does that have the AX15 or the Puegot tranny? My 95 w/2.5L goes for around $5K in CO.
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Run from this car seriously, doesn't pass smog!?!? Its carbureted, right. You live in CA. Tell them if they give you $2k you will take it off there hands. You will still lose. Are you going to tube buggy this thing, or make it street legal? And it needs a tranny it sounds like. Does that have the AX15 or the Puegot tranny? My 95 w/2.5L goes for around $5K in CO.
Oh man... Not what I wanted to hear.

My intent is to make it street legal. The owner says it's not a big deal and there's a "hole or leak in one of the smog parts". Dont know about the trans, but will definitely specify it be checked in the PPI. How do I tell which one it has? Yes, it is carbureted.

Sounds like the couple hundred bucks the PPI will cost me may be the best money I've spent in a while...
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Sorry to be so blunt, dude, . carb's have no future in the modern world. CA has the strictest smog test in the country. no repair is cheap. If the body and frame where perfect, maybe a good candidate for a drivetrain swap. But if you are looking for a daily, I would save up a little more and get something fuel injected. I dont know the first year, but if it has a 4.0L its EFI. Much easier to deal with. Good you caught the popping out of gear thing.
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Sorry to be so blunt, dude, . carb's have no future in the modern world. CA has the strictest smog test in the country. no repair is cheap. If the body and frame where perfect, maybe a good candidate for a drivetrain swap. But if you are looking for a daily, I would save up a little more and get something fuel injected. I dont know the first year, but if it has a 4.0L its EFI. Much easier to deal with. Good you caught the popping out of gear thing.
It's cool, I have no problem with blunt... I have a bigger problem with being broke with a money hole in my driveway.
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A month ago I paid $4k for my 94 with a 2.5/5speed. Bone stock, paint was a little rough with the fronts of both finders slightly damaged. Has 96k miles and the only thing wrong mechanical is a weak slave cylinder and an exhaust leak.

That's really cheap for my area.
IMO you should check prices in your area to see what others go for and compare.
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Thanks that makes me feel good about my purchase
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Thanks that makes me feel good about my purchase
What purchase would that be?
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Being in CA and if you have to pass smog, I would pass. With that said if I really wanted it I would go no more than 500 max. 300 would be better.
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Oh man... Not what I wanted to hear.

My intent is to make it street legal. The owner says it's not a big deal and there's a "hole or leak in one of the smog parts". Dont know about the trans, but will definitely specify it be checked in the PPI. How do I tell which one it has? Yes, it is carbureted.

Sounds like the couple hundred bucks the PPI will cost me may be the best money I've spent in a while...
I agree with YJ325i, there is no way I'd consider a 4.2 with a carb in CA or any other state that does emissions inspections. I'm going to be a bit more blunt than he was.... you don't sound like a car guy, at least not one that works on his own stuff. You need to to be looking for the most well maintained Jeep you can afford. Buying a clean Jeep is so much cheaper than fixing one up.

Anytime a seller tells me something is a simple fix, I want to sock them in the face, but usually I just ask them, if its so simple, why didn't you just get it fixed??? Anytime someone says simple fix, figure $1000, because it if was under $500, it would have been fixed before sale. The fact that it won't pass emission and the transmission is popping out of gear is an easy $2k to make right, if you are doing the work yourself. Paying a shop...in CA.....

Now factor in the missing parts.....

Run.... don't even take this to get an inspection...
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with it having the 4.2 and the ba10 tranny and both needing work you are looking at a min of 2500.00 to get it road worthy. I wouldn't put a dime into trying to fix the stock emissions system. howel FI is the way to go but it costs about 1,300 for the CA. legal kit. The ba 10 also isn't worth fixing so you are looking at swapping to a newer transmission like the AX15. then, with the high miles you are looking at a new motor before to long.
I have an 87 with the 4.2 that I luv but with you living in CA. I"d pass or be prepared to spend alot of money, what you have is a major project jeep.
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I agree with YJ325i, there is no way I'd consider a 4.2 with a carb in CA or any other state that does emissions inspections. I'm going to be a bit more blunt than he was.... you don't sound like a car guy, at least not one that works on his own stuff. You need to to be looking for the most well maintained Jeep you can afford. Buying a clean Jeep is so much cheaper than fixing one up.

Anytime a seller tells me something is a simple fix, I want to sock them in the face, but usually I just ask them, if its so simple, why didn't you just get it fixed??? Anytime someone says simple fix, figure $1000, because it if was under $500, it would have been fixed before sale. The fact that it won't pass emission and the transmission is popping out of gear is an easy $2k to make right, if you are doing the work yourself. Paying a shop...in CA.....

Now factor in the missing parts.....

Run.... don't even take this to get an inspection...
Thanks for the feedback. I've actually done a reasonable amount of work on several cars but am in no way a trained mechanic. if the smog issue is simple, I can handle that, and the rest. If not, I'm not gonna bother unless I can pick it up for super cheap, cheap and convert to FI. My intent really WAS to have a project jeep me and my sons could work on that would eventually be theirs in a couple years when they reach driving age. You know, the whole pride of ownership / sweat equity thing...
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Thanks for the feedback. I've actually done a reasonable amount of work on several cars but am in no way a trained mechanic. if the smog issue is simple, I can handle that, and the rest. If not, I'm not gonna bother unless I can pick it up for super cheap, cheap and convert to FI. My intent really WAS to have a project jeep me and my sons could work on that would eventually be theirs in a couple years when they reach driving age. You know, the whole pride of ownership / sweat equity thing...
I hear you on the sweat equity thing, though it never really works out that way. I wish I could say I learned my lesson on that one! Grab one of the newer 2.5's with MPI or a 4.0. Fantastic motors with great (not fussy) engine management systems. Super simple compared to the carbed nightmare the 4.2 is.
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I paid 3,000 for mine. It has 160,000 miles 4 inch lift 6 cylinder with automatic transmission, A/C no rust, maybe a couple of dings.
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I hear you on the sweat equity thing, though it never really works out that way. I wish I could say I learned my lesson on that one! Grab one of the newer 2.5's with MPI or a 4.0. Fantastic motors with great (not fussy) engine management systems. Super simple compared to the carbed nightmare the 4.2 is.
What year is the sweet spot on the 2.5? My concern is the 2.5 will be anemic, although I have never driven one. If anyone has driven both, can you comment on this? Thanks in advance.
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I might be wrong, but...if it is an 89, gives you 2 years to work on it a little bit before it becomes classic and then you don't have to worry about emissions testing, so I would say if you wanted a project jeep to mess around with, go for it, wait 2 years then get the classic car tags so you don't have to worry about emissions testing. Other than that, no, run away fast.
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What year is the sweet spot on the 2.5? My concern is the 2.5 will be anemic, although I have never driven one. If anyone has driven both, can you comment on this? Thanks in advance.
As long as you don't put huge tires on it and try to go fast on a freeway, the 2.5 is great. I think anything 1991+ has MPI.
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I might be wrong, but...if it is an 89, gives you 2 years to work on it a little bit before it becomes classic and then you don't have to worry about emissions testing, so I would say if you wanted a project jeep to mess around with, go for it, wait 2 years then get the classic car tags so you don't have to worry about emissions testing. Other than that, no, run away fast.
in Cali it's a year cutoff, not an age cutoff... so unfortunately that's not an option. Per CA DMV.... (I this state sometimes)

Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:
  • Hybrid
  • Gasoline powered 1975 year model or older
  • Diesel powered manufactured prior to 1998 or with a Gross Vehicle Weight rating (GVWR) of more than 14,000 lbs
  • Electric
  • Natural gas powered with a GVWR rating of more than 14,000 lbs.
  • Motorcycle
  • Trailer
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yup, look for a fuel injected one instead or be prepared for lots of money to need to go towards it
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yup, look for a fuel injected one instead or be prepared for lots of money to need to go towards it
If I could pick it up for $2k and spend $1.5k on FI, would that make sense? I've ready that converting the 4.2 to FI yields great driveability, power and a decent mileage increase.
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I agree with YJ325i, there is no way I'd consider a 4.2 with a carb in CA or any other state that does emissions inspections. I'm going to be a bit more blunt than he was.... you don't sound like a car guy, at least not one that works on his own stuff. You need to to be looking for the most well maintained Jeep you can afford. Buying a clean Jeep is so much cheaper than fixing one up.

Anytime a seller tells me something is a simple fix, I want to sock them in the face, but usually I just ask them, if its so simple, why didn't you just get it fixed??? Anytime someone says simple fix, figure $1000, because it if was under $500, it would have been fixed before sale. The fact that it won't pass emission and the transmission is popping out of gear is an easy $2k to make right, if you are doing the work yourself. Paying a shop...in CA.....

Now factor in the missing parts.....

Run.... don't even take this to get an inspection...


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