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Old 08-07-2010, 07:19 AM   #1
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Please help!!! new jeep owner in need!!!

So i got 86 miles in the "new" jeep before it wont start . It seems like the problem is very simple but there are some strange symptoms and I would really like to avoid getting it towed offbase (which can be VERY expensive to get it off a military base).

I cant start my 95 YJ, it's right around 100,000 miles and basically when I turn the key absolutely nothing happens. Here are my theories, that morning when I couldnt get the car started my buddy helped me get it going by push starting the car. After we got it going I immediately checked the voltage gauge and the needle was over 14 volts. So it seems the alternator is working. The battery is one month old! I cant see how the battery is bad unless it was bad from the manufacturer and I think I would have had problems from the beginning if it was in fact faulty. I tried getting jumps from two different vehicles (a S10 and a mustang) and the battery would hold a very minimal charge enough to turn on the engine compartment lights and the door buzzer, but when I tried to turn it over it would click once and die and that was it.

I think it may be the voltage regulator (the alternator not being able to feed the battery power properly) or maybe something i did (i've changed the sparkplugs, added a gas cleaner (appropriate for the jeep i checked), added radiator fluid) thats it!

Does anyone have any insight into the problem, I would really appreciate getting this YJ back on the road (if it gives you any incentive I'm a new jeep owner that waves) Thanks in advance guys/gals.

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Start with the cheapest first. How is the condition of your battery cables and connectors? Any amount of corrosion can cause a battery drain. Clean the posts and connectors with a wire brush and make sure that you can not twist of turn them once they are reconnected. Check your grounds. Something is pulling power and draining your battery. Have you added any new electronics, lighting. etc. lately?

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Old 08-07-2010, 07:44 AM   #3
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no I havent however i did just pick up the jeep less than a 100miles ago. The last owner said they reconditioned the heating system last winter but it doesnt look like there are any new electronics, there is a sound system built into the sport bar. I'll take a look at the grounds there, also it just occurred to me to check the fuses which is something in my mad dash to diagnose the problem I forgot to do. Could a bad fuse affect the batteries ability to draw power from an outside source?
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concerning the battery cables and connectors they look like they have some wear but nothing bad. I wonder if the previous owner had a similar problem...
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i wonder if i knocked anything around when i was changing the spark plugs, perhaps I'm shorting something
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I doubt that it is the sound bar. It could be a fuse or a sensor. Try running a direct line from the battery to the starter and see if it works. I'm sure that you will get more imput from some of the YJ guys later.
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Go ahead and pull the battery cables, clean the inside of the cable ends with a bit of rough sandpaper and the posts as well. Then bolt them back on nice and tight.

From what you said about not being able to jump it, that's one of the first things I would suspect.

When you jump it, leave it connected awhile (with the other vehicle running) to get a charge on it
OR if you have someone that can take you to a parts house and have the battery checked, do so.
Sometimes they just fail.

Check things that could have been accidently left on. Like your interior lights.
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thanks for your help, I'm going to try and diagnose the problem today (knock on wood) i can get this resolved. Will keep the thread updated to help those with similar issues later on.
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Go ahead and pull the battery cables, clean the inside of the cable ends with a bit of rough sandpaper and the posts as well. Then bolt them back on nice and tight.

From what you said about not being able to jump it, that's one of the first things I would suspect.

When you jump it, leave it connected awhile (with the other vehicle running) to get a charge on it
OR if you have someone that can take you to a parts house and have the battery checked, do so.
Sometimes they just fail.

Check things that could have been accidently left on. Like your interior lights.
My buddy and I are going to pull the battery and get it checked, I'll also clean the cables.
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While you're at the part house, pick up some anti-corrosion spray. Or you can buy little felt washers that slip over the terminals that are already saturated with it.

OBM started putting that on my vehicles many years ago and I never have had a problem because of corrosion.
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I am not that mechanically inclined, but my first thought (from previous experience on other vehicles I have had) would be in this order: Battery, alternator, STARTER.
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How old is the battery?
What is the voltage generated by the battery, itself?
When it was running was the side of the battery hot?
Does the battery seem "swollen"?
What is ther water/electrolyte level?
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Go ahead and pull the battery cables, clean the inside of the cable ends with a bit of rough sandpaper and the posts as well. Then bolt them back on nice and tight.

From what you said about not being able to jump it, that's one of the first things I would suspect.

When you jump it, leave it connected awhile (with the other vehicle running) to get a charge on it
OR if you have someone that can take you to a parts house and have the battery checked, do so.
Sometimes they just fail.

Check things that could have been accidently left on. Like your interior lights.
kate thank you so much! I did what you suggested (actually i bought a $10 cleaner kit) i cleaned the corrosion out of the cables and battery connectors brought the battery to a carparts shop had them recharge and check it out. Everything looked good on the battery's end. Reconnected the wires and it started right up in one try. Thank you for the quick fix! If you're ever in the Offut Air Force Base or Omaha, NE area let me know I'll buy you a beer. Thanks again! And thanks everyone else for their suggestions.

PS. a note about the cleaner kit, it comes with spray fluids that make cleaning the corrosion easy with the brush also a spray to prevent further corrosion and those pads. for $10 it cant be beat. pick em up at any advance or similar car parts store.
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ill repost in a week if the quick fix is holding, im keeping my fingers crossed
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T If you're ever in the Offut Air Force Base or Omaha, NE area let me know I'll buy you a beer. Thanks again!
I was at Offutt for 6 years, all of it in the 97th. Too bad they closed down "Building R," if you're just getting there, that was Rumors. I'll be out that way sometime in August, although sans Jeep sadly.
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I was at Offutt for 6 years, all of it in the 97th. Too bad they closed down "Building R," if you're just getting there, that was Rumors. I'll be out that way sometime in August, although sans Jeep sadly.
yea rumors is off limits Wing CC banned it after a couple stabbings there
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Offutt.... mmmm.. big Box Lunch! Dropped in more than once for some Go juice. Good luck dude! Have fun w/ the Jeep and thanks!

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yea rumors is off limits Wing CC banned it after a couple stabbings there
Well, after the Wing banned it, it closed down. The 97th pretty much kept that place in business.
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kate thank you so much! I did what you suggested (actually i bought a $10 cleaner kit) i cleaned the corrosion out of the cables and battery connectors brought the battery to a carparts shop had them recharge and check it out. Everything looked good on the battery's end. Reconnected the wires and it started right up in one try. Thank you for the quick fix! If you're ever in the Offut Air Force Base or Omaha, NE area let me know I'll buy you a beer. Thanks again! And thanks everyone else for their suggestions.
Well, credit where credit is due, JDsDream thunk of it first

BUT

I'm not so humble that I wouldn't take you up on that beer if I had the chance!
Glad you got her going!
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Well, credit where credit is due, JDsDream thunk of it first

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I'm not so humble that I wouldn't take you up on that beer if I had the chance!
Glad you got her going!
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