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Old 11-10-2009, 08:23 PM   #1
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What are the pros and cons of a tj shaft swap on passenger side of dana 30? It would cause the front driveshaft to spin all the time. Would I notice any new vibration from this? I guess the pro of this swap is that the cad is removed. How easy is it to get a passenger side shaft? I would have to change seal location. Which means pull the carrier. What year shaft do I need any 97-06. Is it best to just keeping the vacuum disconnect in good repair? Need some advice.

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Old 11-10-2009, 08:39 PM   #2
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For hard offroading I would remove the vacuum dico thing and install a TJ shaft instead. All TJ shafts will fit.

There will be no vibes from the front.

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Old 11-12-2009, 07:44 PM   #3
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I replaced mine earlier this year & have had no problems with it. Your front driveshaft will spin all the time no matter if you keep the cad or switch to TJ shafts. The only difference I noticed is that it doesn't turn as sharp as it did before in 4wd. Other than that; I'm glad to get rid of the POS cad. It is only a weak point in the driveline & is a constant source of aggrivation. I see there are a lot of threads dealing with this problem.
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:47 PM   #4
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xj shafts also work well, and you also gain a larger u joint also.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:39 PM   #5
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You dont have to pull the carrier. You change the outer seal of the CAD housing to one for a Cherokee or TJ. Just mark the Shaft where you think the seal will ride on it and polish it real good. Cause that area on TJ's and Cherokees are still a little rough. But you dont have to put the seal in the carrier housing.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:53 PM   #6
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But in all reality unless you having a issue with the CAD system then it works pretty good. And I never saw a issue with any of it breaking shafts and such. Maybe get rid of the vacuum setup but thats it. U joints are the weak link and you got a 95 so they are as good as it gets stock.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:56 PM   #7
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i haven't done it yet, but it sure seems to me you have to pull the carrier, smooth out the part of the housing where the seal rides in a non disco axle, (on either side of the carrier) and install the seal there. all the front axle seals i've replaced i've pulled the carrier. and once the shafts are out, the carrier unbolts anyways.

i'm under the impression you install the seal where an xj or tj has it now, just outside the pumpkin. is that right?
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You can. But easier to do it the way I said earlier. I have done this on 5 axles so far. I have done it both ways.
The drivers side seal's are the same one for all dana 30's. So no need in messing with that one.

If you do the carrier seal its not a super tight fit. It will come out with just a small tap so Make damn sure you clean the area good and rtv it in,. Cause when you go jamming the axle in and hit it, it will leak. Thats why I like sealing the outer area. Super tight seal and very hard to knock loose.
Also the seal you use if doing the carrier seal is NOT the same as a TJ OR Cherokee. They are too big to fit in hole. The one that everyone uses is a small thin seal.
I got one axle with both seals.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:18 PM   #9
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The cone of the seal goes toward the wheel bearings.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:22 PM   #10
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National Part No: 471763 Is the seal you use for the passenger carrier seal. Advance Auto has them normally in stock. Found out its a transmission seal for a Jeep trans with a 360. But the number is the same on there computer system just got to look it up that way.
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Old 11-14-2009, 07:16 PM   #11
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Swapping the shaft is not hard to do and solves potential problems with that POS vacuum disconnect. If you want to maintain what it does, however... or have trouble finding the replacement axle (like I did)... you could also consider getting the 4X4 Posi-Lok cable actuator. I installed one on my YJ and it works great. No problems and no potential vacuum line issues either. Just a thought

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