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Old 01-20-2017, 01:57 AM   #1
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Question for those of you who have rolled or laid your yj on the side

So my yj was laid over on its side at around 35 mph or so, both front fenders have alittle bit of damage, enough that the hood dont shut, hood has no damage, passenger front spring broke, rollbar is bent, windshield frame is bent, hardtop shattered in a bunch of pieces, passenger door is bent. I have another hardtop but it wont go on due to the rollbar and windshield frame being bent, the jeep laid on its passenger side pushing the rollbar to the driverside and up a couple inches to. So i have a bunch of parts to rebuild it with but im hoping the body aint tweaked, visibly you can tell if it is or not, im crossing my fingers that the body is still good. So my question to you guys are, do you have any experience with this? Should i be worried about the tub being no good? Typically what all gets damaged in this situation? Im hoping just replacing the rollbar, passenger door, and windshield frame straightens everything out...?
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Old 01-21-2017, 02:19 PM   #2
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Your entire frame could be shot... I'd recommend taking it to a body and frame shop to see if it's straight. If not, see how much they charge to straighten it. The money you pay them would be worth it to see if your Jeep is worth throwing all that money into. If everything is bent, you may be better off making it a trail rig, selling it as a trail rig, or swapping parts over to a new Jeep.

I haven't rolled mine but I've tipped it on its side and just had a mirror bent in, which bent right back out. Make sure your engine oil didn't leak out, coolant is still there, and your entire steering and suspension system is straight. You mentioned a broken spring. I'd be surprised if you didn't mushroom a tie rod or shear a ball joint.

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Old 01-21-2017, 06:11 PM   #3
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It bent the inner c on the passenger side as well, no tierod bar damage, looks to be no frame damage at all, and visually you cant see any tweaks in the tub, all the doors open and shut....
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Could you elaborate on the circumstances of the rollover? Hopefully nobody was hurt, it sounds pretty bad. I'm just trying to get an idea of any impacts on the Jeep, and so on.
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bigtime79, If you post some pics of the Jeep as it sits, we can give you more concise advice.
Try to show where your roll bar attaches to the tub. We'll need a shot square from the back and front, as well as any internal and external body damage.

You say "looks to be no frame damage at all". I am an expert at determining frame damage and I can't see anything but the most noticeable of kinks or mashes. Twist and sway are difficult to see with the naked eye.

YJ Jeep frames are pretty stout when they are rust free. If I were you I would follow MMs advice to have a body shop put a set of frame gauges on it just to be certain. The cost shouldn't be a lot more than a hundred dollars. Most body shops have a flat rate price (2 hours) to do a set up and measure a frame. Many can provide a computer print out. If the frame is damaged, they should call you as soon as the measurements come in with a price to square it.

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Old 01-23-2017, 09:21 PM   #6
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:22 PM   #7
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Old 01-23-2017, 09:37 PM   #9
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Can you guys see these pics?
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You need a full inspection of the suspension and steering system. Tie rods, ball joints, drag link, bearings.

Copied from my post in another thread:
Jack up the Jeep by the axle (not frame). Shake down the wheels. Check tie rods at 9 and 3 (clock positions), ball joints at 6 and 12, then place a big ass pry bar underneath the tire and pry up to see if the ball joints move upwards. Wheel bearing will have play at all clock positions. Keep in mind you may have more than one item bad. And I've even had a ball joint with play left and right at 9 and 3...

We had a Chevy truck in the shop a week ago that sustained an impact just to the wheel. It destroyed the bearing (which then destroyed the brakes), outer and inner tie rods, upper and lower ball joints, and the center link.

Below is an image of the center link. It was all bent up from the impact. Same could happen to your drag kink

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Just by looking at the pics of the wreck and in the tow yard, I wouldn't be too concerned about the frame.

Do as MM suggests, repair the damaged suspension and get a professional alignment. If all proves well, then get a new roll bar and keep on Jeepin. It looks like the roll bar pushed the drivers side panel out a bit. A 2X4 and a heavy hammer should work to roll that area back into a useable fit.

How much is a new or used passenger side fender. The damaged fender may well be repairable but I can't tell how bad it is from the pics.

You should go through and check all your fluids too.

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Huh, just realized I said drag "kink" instead of drag link. I guess "kink" may be acceptable in certain situations!

I'm surprised at how nonchalant Luckymac is about the body damage. It looked bad to me, but I know nothing about body, so it's good to hear advice from a former professional in the field.

x2 on fluids. Especially coolant and oil.
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So for the jeep i have new skyjacker 4" millitary wrap front springs, sye kit, another hp d30 with 4.10 gear and a spartan locker with one piece axle shaft swap from an xj (has the bigger 760x ujoints too), 31 spline disc brake ford 8.8 with 4.11 gear and a spartan locker, smittybuilt front tube fenders, barnes stubby front winch bumper, another hardtop, another rollbar and windshield frame free from a buddy, and an 8.8 install kit, i still need a double cardon driveshaft, shocks, tires and wheels to complete the build.....my plans were to fit the other rollbar and windshield frame to see if my top fits right, and if my drivers side door lines up to the top right.....passenger door is bent up......most of these parts i actually collected before the wreck.....
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So for the jeep i have new skyjacker 4" millitary wrap front springs, sye kit, another hp d30 with 4.10 gear and a spartan locker with one piece axle shaft swap from an xj (has the bigger 760x ujoints too), 31 spline disc brake ford 8.8 with 4.11 gear and a spartan locker, smittybuilt front tube fenders, barnes stubby front winch bumper, another hardtop, another rollbar and windshield frame free from a buddy, and an 8.8 install kit, i still need a double cardon driveshaft, shocks, tires and wheels to complete the build.....my plans were to fit the other rollbar and windshield frame to see if my top fits right, and if my drivers side door lines up to the top right.....passenger door is bent up......most of these parts i actually collected before the wreck.....
I think that your repair logic is headed in the right direction. Once you get the above done or as you are doing it, you will probably have more questions.

You will want to heat the bolts that secure the roll bar to the body before trying to loosen them. Like the windshield frame bolts, the factory uses thread locker on them and in order to loosen them easily, you need to heat them to around 500* to break the thread locker bond. Once you have the roll bar out, take a good look at the four mounting points on the rear wheelwells. If they are distorted at all, post some good pics.

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Be a good time for flat fenders if you ever wanted them. Your on the track..keep on jeepin brother!
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Heres what the front currently looks like, im hoping the frame aint bent
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Dang Bigtime its still on its side!
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Dang Bigtime its still on its side!
Yeah...lol...sorry bout that, i dont know why they went sideways.....i have an auto body shop coming out today to give me a price on straightening out my frame.....

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