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Old 11-18-2007, 07:50 PM   #1
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Recovery points?

I was told by a member on here I need recovery points, front and rear. I took off the bumperettes, hoping to put on a tube bumper on the rear, but I don't have the said bumper. I was told I need to put those back on incase of rear impact, and I am going to, so that is a rear recovery point. How about front? Is there any reason I couldn't drill holes in the existing bumpers, and mount one of these on both of the bumpers? They say they are rated to 12,000 pounds. The bumper material seems a bit thin, so maybe put some 1/4 inch steel with the same bolt holes on the back side of the bumper for support? Once again, I'm new to this stuff, so sorry if this is a stupid question. Thanks everyone

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Old 11-18-2007, 07:58 PM   #2
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the bumper is mounted to the framne with 4 bolts on the upper side.

you can install some tow hooks like these with some longer bolts on that place:


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As a rule I wouldn't trust anything that wasn't bolted directly to the frame, using no less than grade 8 hardware as a recovrey point. If it is on the bumper itself it should be welded through front and back of a heavy duty steel bumper and not the thin sheet metal stock bumpers. Also, I've seen the tube bumpers twist, bend, and fail when trying to use as recovery points. I would advise against them for anything other than looks. Hope this was helpful info.
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Thanks; that is for the front, right? Or could it be used for the rear, too? You have any pics of how/where is bolts up? Thanks
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As a rule I wouldn't trust anything that wasn't bolted directly to the frame, using no less than grade 8 hardware as a recovrey point. If it is on the bumper itself it should be welded through front and back of a heavy duty steel bumper and not the thin sheet metal stock bumpers. Also, I've seen the tube bumpers twist, bend, and fail when trying to use as recovery points. I would advise against them for anything other than looks. Hope this was helpful info.
So this is basically another reccomendation towards the ProComp tow hooks? Thanks for the help
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:11 PM   #6
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So this is basically another reccomendation towards the ProComp tow hooks? Thanks for the help

Yea...lol. He posted quicker than I did.
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OK cool, thanks Prove. Would I be able to bolt one of these onto the rear, as well. I know the bumperettes are OK recovery points but those tow hooks seem really solid, especially bolting straight to the frame. Thanks guys
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:18 PM   #8
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I have a buddy with a YJ that bolted one to the rear of his and it worked great until he caught it on a rock or two. I would say it's a cheap better than nothing fix for now. Use it 'till it breaks then upgrade.
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i mounted two of these tow hooks at my rear like this:

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i mounted two of these tow hooks at my rear like this:

I don't allow things to 'mount my rear'.
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I don't allow things to 'mount my rear'.
don´t you drive a pink jeep...?
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don´t you drive a pink jeep...?
not yet. maybe I'll paint it. White's easy to cover right?
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i mounted two of these tow hooks at my rear like this:

Seriously though, do those mount points already have nut pockets in the frame? It's cold out and I'm lazy, but I like the way those look.
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Thanks everyone. So nicolas, were those holes already there or did you drill them? You have pics of the front, or is that the front?
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Look under the black plastic JEEP piece between your bumper and grille area. The front tow hooks mount there onto the frame rails.
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one hole was there the other one had to be drilled.
it was a problem to put the nuts on the bolts. a friends son with small hands did it for me...
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Look under the black plastic JEEP piece between your bumper and grille area. The front tow hooks mount there onto the frame rails.
That's where I take out existing bolts, and replace them with the hook and longer bolts? Thanks, sorry for all the questions.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:00 PM   #18
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Yes, that is the spot. This site is for answers to questions and making new friends. Welcome to the Jeep family.
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OK cool. Thanks crafty. Tomorrow is payday, so I'll order 2 of those within the next few days. 15 bucks a pop off summitracing.com doesn't seem like a bad deal at all. *edit* they have just the hook alone for 5 bucks each, I can get all the hardware from work, so I can do that I guess. I shouldn't have too much trouble with getting them mounted. Thanks for all the help
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I took a quick look at the frame rails this morning where I would likely be putting the hooks on, and noticed that I will have to drill through both walls of the frame, and put the washer and nut on the back, right? I thought I might be able to just drill through one side and somehow get a nut on the back but the frame is fully enclosed and theres no way of getting up in there. It won't be a problem to drill all the way through, right?

Anyone else have pics of how they did it? Thanks
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:14 PM   #21
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Drilling all the way through is okay. Make sure you use at least a grade 8 bolt.
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Drilling all the way through is okay. Make sure you use at least a grade 8 bolt.
I strongly disagree!!!
You will tighten the bolts which will squeeze the frame and eventuallly start collapsing it which will make them seem loose, then you will tighten them more which will squeeze the frame more and collapse it more and on and on...
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So what should I do? Will the frame really squish like triple88a says?
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Drill a larger hole and put a sleeve in there to keep the frame from collapsing. Just make sure you use a good size washer on the back.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:05 PM   #25
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OK, sounds simple enough. Thanks yall

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