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Old 05-23-2006, 02:04 PM   #1
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Rusted Frame

Has anyone had any experience repairing a rusted frame? I recently noticed that my 94 sahara has rusted through around the right rear shackle. I live in Indiana so the winters bring the rust. I am wanting to cut out the bad spot and fabricate a repair panel. I know that I should go with a different frame, but I was looking for a easy fix. Just wanted to know if any other mid-west jeepers have been through this.

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Old 05-23-2006, 10:40 PM   #2
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Yikes. Sounds like it's time to do a frame swap. There's gonna be alot of rust you can't see, too. It doesn't sound very good. Where all do you have rust you can see on the frame and body?

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Old 05-24-2006, 07:47 AM   #3
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I have rust under the tail gate in the right corner and on the right fender. The frame looks fine except for the spot by the shackle. My drivers's side floor is showing some rust now. I was going to repair the rusted panels this summer. I just noticed the frame about two weeks ago. It will sit until I figure out what to do. I have had my yj for 8 years. Still runs like it did when I got it 60,000 miles ago. I just have to get the rust under control. Still can't bear the thought of letting it go.
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I have rust under the tail gate in the right corner and on the right fender. The frame looks fine except for the spot by the shackle. My drivers's side floor is showing some rust now. I was going to repair the rusted panels this summer. I just noticed the frame about two weeks ago. It will sit until I figure out what to do. I have had my yj for 8 years. Still runs like it did when I got it 60,000 miles ago. I just have to get the rust under control. Still can't bear the thought of letting it go.

haha...i havent had my jeep for too long and my dad is like peer pressuring me to sell it cuz he thinks its a piece of crap and a gas guzzler (which it is, but still) but there is not way im gonna sell that bad boy. I told him i want to keep it for like another 10 years and he laughed at me...so now im keeping it and gonna run his honda accord over next summer
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Old 05-24-2006, 02:19 PM   #5
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if you have a wire welder you can fabricate just about anything if you have the time and energy. having fabricated and installed both frame rails (back seat to back bumper) on a 66 gta fairlane i can say it's alot of work especially if you get into more rot than you thought so check it out well first. i started out thinking i could do just the shakle area also. anyway weld some metal in, coat it with rust neutralizer of your choice, then undercoat it with fiberized roof coating, and drive it. thats a cheap fix.

prefabricated parts are great if you can get them.

as for rust my .02 is once it starts get away from it unless you really are in love with the vehicle. eventually you'll be patching over patches on a vehicle that has alot of your time and money in it. jeep & company make new ones every day.

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Old 05-24-2006, 02:30 PM   #6
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eventually you'll be patching over patches on a vehicle that has alot of your time and money in it. jeep & company make new ones every day.

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How true it is, many times the time and money are hardly worth it. Cheaper to buy another one.
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Old 05-24-2006, 04:10 PM   #7
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If you decide to fix it also, you might try some sort of product like a roofing compound that you can brush on the under carriage to get that rust under control. Kind of like a spray on bedliner under your rig.
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Old 05-25-2006, 08:58 AM   #8
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If you decide to fix it also, you might try some sort of product like a roofing compound that you can brush on the under carriage to get that rust under control. Kind of like a spray on bedliner under your rig.
this is may make professional restorers cringe but scrape the rust scale with whatever tool works best. rust neutrilzer it, then get a gallon of the fiberized roof coating 1blkjp mentioned (about $13.00 for the good stuff), cut it with paint thinner (or gasoline if you want) and brush it on the entire frame. once dry i think it can also be top coated with enamal base paint if i remember correctly.

pretty ugly but cheap. and that stuff sticks and will take a beating better than most "undercoating" products i know of.

by the way not to sound negative but no matter what you do unless the jeep is kept in permanant dry storage, eventually the rust will be back.

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darn. forgot to mention POR15. alot of resto guys use it, or similar products, and swear by it. no experience with it myself but fyi.
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Old 05-26-2006, 01:44 PM   #10
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Thanks for the ideas. I cleaned and coated the frame with a rustoleum paint last weekend. I only sprayed a single coat. Didn't think it would hurt.

I came accross this site

http://www.autorust.com/k_42.html

Anyone had any experience with pre fab replacement frame panels?

FYI, my YJ is not a daily driver anymore. It is paid off and my only problem is the rust. I know I should dump it and get another, but I won't. It has a clean interior, both tops, and I would have driven it anywhere until the frame situation developed. Too much attachment here. I would get jealous if I saw someone else driving it around town. I am going to try and fight the frame rust.

Has anyone put an aftermarket frame on a YJ. I have been weighing options. They are expensive, but it would be a solid foundation for a good build up.
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Old 05-26-2006, 03:19 PM   #11
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One of the guys in our club, completely restored a CJ frame up.
He took the frame to Fort Worth, and had it galvanized dipped for about $50.00. Than he primmed it, and painted it black. It looked better than a brand new frame. I know that things become attached to us, and just didn't know if you wanted to do a complete restore. Kind of testing your loyalty......lol. Anyway, that is one route, and if you want to find a new frame, Quadratec sells every bolt, nut, frame, doo hickey, you could possibly want to replace. Good luck with your restoration, and don't give up. You will really be attached by the time you get all this done.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:14 AM   #12
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yeah I bought some panels when I re-did my floor pans (rusted through) good luck with them matching up...I had to cut/torch/weld/trim/swear/hammer/cry/cut/torch...you get the picture.but your right its worth it and now im done so who cares? So I take it you weld...Why dont you just get some thicker heavier steel and fab your own??? I would also bolt through and weld it.
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I am in the process of having my 91 redone. The idea was new paint, Rhino lining, new top, and then start working on the "inner-workings" Ran into a snag day 1. All the bolts in the Jeep were rusted in! I had to have every darn one of them drilled out and retapped. This "beauty treatment" was was suppose to take a couple of weeks has now pushed into 5 months! But, he comes out with his pretty Rhino lining this week ready to take the dogs to the lake! Good luck with the rust problem and just remain patient!
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I am in the process of having my 91 redone. The idea was new paint, Rhino lining, new top, and then start working on the "inner-workings" Ran into a snag day 1. All the bolts in the Jeep were rusted in! I had to have every darn one of them drilled out and retapped. This "beauty treatment" was was suppose to take a couple of weeks has now pushed into 5 months! But, he comes out with his pretty Rhino lining this week ready to take the dogs to the lake! Good luck with the rust problem and just remain patient!

Keep us updated on your progress. I'd love to see some pics of what you have going, and welcome to WF!!
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Old 06-18-2006, 07:33 AM   #15
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Jeep Underconstruction

This is Mr. Jeep all taken apart before anything was done. Notice the rolling chair for a drivers seat! I am glad I didn't try that! I will post pictures after he comes out of his latest cosmetic surgery. After just the paint people were trying to buy him from me. No WAY!
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Old 06-18-2006, 09:52 AM   #16
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I'm glad to seesomeone bringing new life to a YJ. Good luck!

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