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Old 07-22-2014, 02:01 PM   #31
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Yeah now you got him hooked feed that curious spirit!

My son and I had and still are having a blast with our jeep.

Not to mention he is right you will find leaks once you clean it up.

I like the flat black plasti dip I am thinking of doing the rims on my rig all of my accents are flat black and look really good.

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You may want to do a little test. While i like flat Black. I did my rims in Satin Black (rustoleum) and like the results a bit better. Just an FYI

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Just to keep everyone up to date I think I found the problem. The clutch pressure plate is cracked and missing several throw out levers. The clutch disk is missing springs which fell out when I took it apart. Slave cylinder is trashed and the throw out bearing has more play than a deck of cards and the throw out lever is deformed.

The other surprise I found when I got home from work was my son decided to clean the engine and transmission and go ahead and prime the engine compartment today while I was at work. I couldn't hardly stop laughing when he asked if we could run by the store because he needed a new tooth brush. Knuckle Head used his to scrub the grime out of the nooks and crannies.
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At least it's a pretty easy repair. Beats having to tear the engine down.
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Well at least HOTROD learned something, and you are using this experience as a bonding moment. I guess I purchased my Jeep for the same reason. Glad it wasnt the engine!
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Well at least HOTROD learned something, and you are using this experience as a bonding moment. I guess I purchased my Jeep for the same reason. Glad it wasnt the engine!
HOTROD is learning and dad is having fun with him. Now just need to get all the parts, put it back together. Glad it isn't the motor too. I appreciate all of everyone's input and suggestions.
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The other surprise I found when I got home from work was my son decided to clean the engine and transmission and go ahead and prime the engine compartment today while I was at work. I couldn't hardly stop laughing when he asked if we could run by the store because he needed a new tooth brush. Knuckle Head used his to scrub the grime out of the nooks and crannies.
Good initiative on his part!
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Good initiative on his part!
Absolutely...one of those electric tooth brushes would work really well in hard to reach areas.
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He just needs to sing a nice military Jodi while he is working!

Something like " Up in the morning with the rising sun
We at gonna run run run till the day is done!


Hooyah!


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He just needs to sing a nice military Jodi while he is working! Something like " Up in the morning with the rising sun We at gonna run run run till the day is done! Hooyah! Chief
He is following in Dad's foot steps he's leaving for Paris Island June 2015 after he Graduates from high school. The recruiter is already working with him.
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Outstanding another war Hero in the making!

Just a friendly reminder when in a crowd if you here the phrase from your DI of "Hey you"

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TURN AROUND!

Unless you like push ups!



Hahhhhhaaaa



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We stayed up last night till way in the morning. Here is the current update. Engine bay plasti dip (went with black satin). New clutch, master cylinder slave cylinder throw out bearing, throw out lever and pressure plate installed. New rear main seal installed. New oil pan installed. While everything was apart we went ahead and welded the catalytic converter and put on a new muffler with tail pipe. Then hot rod pointed out that the fuel line at the filter looked funny. Sure enough early signs of dry rot so new lines and filter is the adventure for tonight. Along with putting the engine and trans back in and hopefully start putting The the front clip back together.

The other awesome moment was when he asked last night if we can find him an old Jeep to fix up for his first car. I guess this means the adventure begins to find a worthy piece to drag home and start restoring.
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Her is the current status update. The engine bay has been Plasti-Dip. We went with Satin Black. After staying up to the wee hours of morning. The clutch master cylinder, slave cylinder, throw out lever, throw out bearing, pressure plate and clutch disk have been installed. Replaced the rear main seal. New oil pan with gasket. Went ahead and replaced the muffler and tail pipe and took off the old clamps and welded everything together. Then HOTROD pointed out the fuel lines at the filter looked "funny". No they were not funny, just stating to dry rot. So for tonight. Replace fuel filter and rubber fuel lines. Put the engine and transmission back. Reconnect everything and hopefully start putting the front clip back on.

The other thing HOTROD asked last night, is if we can find an old Jeep to fix up for his first car. I guess that means the search for a 4.0 needing TLC begins.
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This has been a great read. Thanks for keeping it going!
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Her is the current status update. The engine bay has been Plasti-Dip. We went with Satin Black. After staying up to the wee hours of morning. The clutch master cylinder, slave cylinder, throw out lever, throw out bearing, pressure plate and clutch disk have been installed. Replaced the rear main seal. New oil pan with gasket. Went ahead and replaced the muffler and tail pipe and took off the old clamps and welded everything together. Then HOTROD pointed out the fuel lines at the filter looked "funny". No they were not funny, just stating to dry rot. So for tonight. Replace fuel filter and rubber fuel lines. Put the engine and transmission back. Reconnect everything and hopefully start putting the front clip back on.

The other thing HOTROD asked last night, is if we can find an old Jeep to fix up for his first car. I guess that means the search for a 4.0 needing TLC begins.

LOL... sounds like Hotrod has a fever :: JEEP FEVER! Thats a good thing!
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Finally after pulling an all nighter, we finished getting everything back together about 3 hours ago. HOTROD did great running the tap and die set over every nut and bolt to make sure all is the threads were good and no corrosion for reassembly. New fuel filter and new lines were installed. Skid plate freshly painted and put back in place. Engine and transmission slid in. All lines reconnected and fresh brand new fluids. While putting everything back together we did run into a few snags the plastic vent pipe to the air cleaner broke, thank goodness I had some old heater hose laying in the corner which was the correct diameter. Many of the vacuum lines rubber connections were dry rotted. Again those which I could switch with heater hose and old fuel line that fit the connections were replaced. Kept the hard plastic lines and just used small sections of hose to replace the boots. After everything was done the Jeep fired right up. At first it was blowing a little smoke through the exhaust (not traditional blue, more white). It did dissipate and does not appear to be doing it after it warmed up. I think it is from oils in the new muffler.

Hot Rod also surprised me with a SkyJacker add a leaf kit for front and rear and 4 Rancho RS-5000 shocks. This will be another days adventure and we take it apart and replace the brakes. The reason for the surprise is he found a 93 with a 4.0l about an hour away he wants me to go look at. According to the information the seller told HOTROD is that it as all original about 280K miles. 5-speed but has not ran for about 4 years, but before he parked it the Jeep ran great. At least it is the correct era, right motor, and a 5-speed. If the money is right maybe HOTROD will have his first car.
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Great Job! Hotrods maybe new Jeep sounds like a good project Jeep If you can get it at a good price.
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Just got back. The Jeep HOTROD found is definitely a project. Both floor pans are rusted out. No panic. Interior is really rough. Top trashed. Found a squirrels nest on the distributor. Needless to say Rocky was not happy when I pulled is home out of the engine bay. 2 spark plugs were missing and the a mouse turned the throttle body into a his home. The skid plate is missing and it looks like some one took a sawzall to the exhaust and patched it back together with a radiator hose. I literally laughed at the guy when he said in all seriousness 3k. His reasoning was he put new tires on it before he parked it and had it aligned and new brakes. Really he thinks the cracking deflated tires are worth anything. So the search continues.
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Just got back. The Jeep HOTROD found is definitely a project. Both floor pans are rusted out. No panic. Interior is really rough. Top trashed. Found a squirrels nest on the distributor. Needless to say Rocky was not happy when I pulled is home out of the engine bay. 2 spark plugs were missing and the a mouse turned the throttle body into a his home. The skid plate is missing and it looks like some one took a sawzall to the exhaust and patched it back together with a radiator hose. I literally laughed at the guy when he said in all seriousness 3k. His reasoning was he put new tires on it before he parked it and had it aligned and new brakes. Really he thinks the cracking deflated tires are worth anything. So the search continues.
Gee, I wonder how it "ran great" with two missing spark plugs. You'd probably have to replace all the wiring with that much rodent activity under the hood. Well the search will be a good experience for HOTROD too, it's great that you two are able to spend so much time together, and at his age, it's amazing that he wants to spend time with you!
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No kidding. How in the hell can a guy advertise that it "ran great when he parked it" when you find it in that condition? I hate liars.
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The thing I have found especially in the DC area is most people selling Jeeps think they are worth a fortune and usually are not in the condition they claim to be. I have seen many of them "tricked out" modified with cheap cosmetic mods just for the look. Prime example is one of my neighbors has a '06 4 inch lift, 33's, snorkel kit, and tons of accessories all in their happy 4cyl. I took it for a drive and at about 40 the wobble began. Around 50 it was dangerous. Putting on the brakes just caused it dive and swerve. I am not saying all just the majority. You hear all type of crap from sellers like all jeeps leak oil. Really? That tick coming from the header is normal and Jeeps are to sound like a Diesel engine? Jeeps just wobble and pull hard when you brake. That smoke from the exhaust is normal. The good thing is if you look at every vehicle as buyer beware and feel that the seller is trying to pull as fast one. Look over the Jeep as what do I have to fix and eliminate options eventually after putting in the time you find one that is worth the investment needed to bring it back.
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HOTROD found another Jeep and drug me out to take a look at it. There it sat in all of its glory. A 93 YJ with a 4.0L, 5-speed. This one started, coughed and sputtered as the bluish gray smoke came out of the exhaust. Which did not surprise me with close to 300k showing on the odometer. Gauges on the dash were reading that it had oil pressure (about 30 at idle). The seller revealed that it uses about a quart of oil every 1k miles. Along with the explanation of its a Jeep they all leak a little and burn some oil. When I asked if I could drive it with out hesitation he gave the go ahead. The clutch pedal had tons of play. However, all 5 gears could be found with a little grinding for reverse. Brakes were soft and screechy. Upon return to his drive way HOTROD and I climbed underneath. Frame was solid floor boards rusted through, rear pumpkin leaking. The interior was clean. Top was faded and definitely showing its age. Yes a perfect project Jeep needing to be restored and the engine stand looks pretty lonely empty right now. His asking price is a little higher than what I prefer we have made him a counter and are awaiting to here back. Now the tough decision. If the seller accepts our offer the Jeep will need to be fully restored and the only way to do it right will be an off frame. Possibly looking at 8 to 12 months of tons of work. Currently I am contemplating of passing my dream Jeep onto to HOTROD and taking the restoration Jeep on for my own. I could build 1 heck of a Jeep and with giving my dream to HOTROD I know he has a reliable solid Jeep. Oh what do I do?
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Have a heart to heart talk with HOTROD and ask him what he wants and how he feels, after all, it's his find. About 30 years ago, I was ready to trade in my little 68 Triumph TR250 on a new 75 Datsun 240Z and took my folks down to see it and get their opinion. I had a serious crush on that Z, but my mom talked me out of it because I really couldn't afford the payments. Then she went back a few days later and bought the same car for herself. I was devastated and felt utterly betrayed. When she tired of the car she gave it to my sister, and that made it even worse. It still burns after 30 years. So even though I still have the TR and it's more of a collector car than the Z (it was the first 6 cylinder TR and they only made it one year), I still harbor that anger, and the hurt now is as fresh as it was then. So don't steal HOTROD's find unless he's okay with the swap. Even though it's the sensible thing to do, he needs to be okay with it. He may have his heart set on building something of his own and not taking over yours. Best of luck whatever you decide to do.
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Cyndi B, thanks for the advice. It was a great heart to heart HOTROD loves my Jeep and from working on it he became obsessed. His dream Jeep so happens to be mine. The final decision was I will be picking up a project Jeep and start a complete restoration on with his help. He is going to buy my Jeep from me. Your advice of a heart to heart was perfect and spot on. I want ahead and ordered his vanity tag thanks to MrWrolGuy you can guess what it is HOTRD KD
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Cyndi B, thanks for the advice. It was a great heart to heart HOTROD loves my Jeep and from working on it he became obsessed. His dream Jeep so happens to be mine. The final decision was I will be picking up a project Jeep and start a complete restoration on with his help. He is going to buy my Jeep from me. Your advice of a heart to heart was perfect and spot on. I want ahead and ordered his vanity tag thanks to MrWrolGuy you can guess what it is HOTRD KD
I'm so glad you worked it out and you both are happy! I see some memorable times in the garage ahead, you're a great dad and I think he knows it too.
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Cyndi B, thanks for the advice. It was a great heart to heart HOTROD loves my Jeep and from working on it he became obsessed. His dream Jeep so happens to be mine. The final decision was I will be picking up a project Jeep and start a complete restoration on with his help. He is going to buy my Jeep from me. Your advice of a heart to heart was perfect and spot on. I want ahead and ordered his vanity tag thanks to MrWrolGuy you can guess what it is HOTRD KD
LOL that's awesome!


My son is 10 years old and he knows my jeep will be his jeep when he turns 15. Lucky for me I have plenty of time for its replacement.
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Update on HotRods Jeep new Brakes, drums, rotors and RS-5000's . I also finally found my Jeep Project. Don't yell it is a 97 TJ with 95k miles. 4.0L, 5-speed, with air. Getting ready to start my build post here shortly.
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Update on HotRods Jeep new Brakes, drums, rotors and RS-5000's . I also finally found my Jeep Project. Don't yell it is a 97 TJ with 95k miles. 4.0L, 5-speed, with air. Getting ready to start my build post here shortly.
We're going to miss you on the YJ forum, you'll have to keep us up to date with HotRod and sneak your TJ pics in
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Update on HotRods Jeep new Brakes, drums, rotors and RS-5000's . I also finally found my Jeep Project. Don't yell it is a 97 TJ with 95k miles. 4.0L, 5-speed, with air. Getting ready to start my build post here shortly.
Haha!!! Get over here fellow TJ owner!
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Labor Day was a great weekend. It started off nice and hot with a threat of rain, which never arrived. My first task was to get rid of that greening interior and find out if there was any rust hiding beneath the carpet. To my excitement the floor pans only had a little bit of surface rust. After breaking out the wire brush wheel, sanding and wiping down the complete interior tub with mineral spirits then denatured alcohol. All of the metal was primed with Rust oleum metal restorer. Then sprayed 2 coats of the Rust oleum Spray in bed liner. I also attacked the interior dash with Dupli-Color's interior vinyl trim paint, and freshened up the trim. Pulled out the radio and figured the elementary school wiring was most likely the reason why the radio was not working. Thank-you google for the wiring diagram for the after market radio. After connecting the wires the correct way, and breaking out the soldering iron, a little shrink wrap. Amazingly the radio, front speakers and the speaker bar worked. I tested the paint on the hood and yes it will buff out. This will be next weekends project, cleaning up the looks of the exterior. Here's a couple of photos and remember it is your eyes playing tricks on you the headlights are square.
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