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Old 03-07-2012, 03:26 PM   #1
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Question Soon to be owner with questions

Hey everyone another newbie here with a couple of questions regarding an 1988 YJ. I have searched and found info on the always on brake light in the dash. When I get the Jeep I will check on that problem and see what I find. Thanks for the good info!

My next question is, how do you open the tail gate if the outside door handle is broken? It looks to me that not only has the pin fallen out for the hindge but that the hindge is broken on the left side.

Is there an access panel on the inside of the tail gate? I don't remember seeing one but I was busy playing with my soon to be new toy.

TIA everyone!

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Unfortunately there's no way to open from the inside and ya you can access it from the back via like 6 torx bolts

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Old 03-07-2012, 04:17 PM   #3
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Unfortunately there's no way to open from the inside and ya you can access it from the back via like 6 torx bolts
OK cool, that is kind of what I was thinking I would have to do. I will try that when I get it and see how it works. Wish me luck!
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Old 03-07-2012, 04:42 PM   #4
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Haha good luck!
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Old 03-08-2012, 11:16 AM   #5
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OK how about another question. But a little background first. Back in 1982 I owned a Toyota SR5 pickup that was 4WD and I never did notice the noise I will be asking about, but it could be that it was due to it had carpeting where the Jeep does not.

When I test drove the Jeep and put it in 4 low I noticed a gear whine when I got up to 4th and 5th gear and about 25-30 mph. Is this whine normal for a Jeep and am I hearing it more due to the fact the Jeep has zero carpeting? Or is it a sign of a potential problem?

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Your supposed to be offroad and under 15mph in 4 low, never on dry pavement. Hopefully you didn't break something. 4 high should not be used on dry pavement either, and can be used at speeds up to 55. I do notice a slight whining in either, but it should not be loud at all.
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There can be some sounds in 4lo when going faster in a higher gear.. keep in mind 4lo is for slow speeds so when you go fast and in a higher gear it can whine, even when off road.
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Your supposed to be offroad and under 15mph in 4 low, never on dry pavement. Hopefully you didn't break something. 4 high should not be used on dry pavement either, and can be used at speeds up to 55. I do notice a slight whining in either, but it should not be loud at all.
Sorry, I did not make myself clear. I was off-road testing it to make sure the different ranges did in fact work. It was a simple dirt road with a sand covering of about 2". It was not loud, I just can hear it is all. Thanks for the advice!

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There can be some sounds in 4lo when going faster in a higher gear.. keep in mind 4lo is for slow speeds so when you go fast and in a higher gear it can whine, even when off road.
OK good info, thanks!

One thing I plan on doing is to change the oil, filter, trans oil, transfer oil, and both diffs oil so I have a known starting point for any maintenance I do to it. I will more than likely do a complete tune up as well for the same reasons.

Thanks guys I appreciate the help.
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The NP231J transfer case is a chain driven transfer case that will begin to make some whining noises when driving faster in 4wd.

You didn't mention which engine it is...
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The NP231J transfer case is a chain driven transfer case that will begin to make some whining noises when driving faster in 4wd.

You didn't mention which engine it is...
Damn, did it again!

IIRC it's a 2.4 4 banger with a 5 speed.
(can't remember if it's 2.4 or 2.5, sorry)

Thanks for the update.

Once I have all the info I will put it in my profile.
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Was that YoYo 24yrs OLD?
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Was that YoYo 24yrs OLD?
Yep, a 1988. I have to talk to the PO to see if he kept any kind of records, kind of don't think he did for some reason. I think he just drove it and from what I remember he is NOT the original owner.
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:55 AM   #13
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OK here is another question. I remember back when I had the Toyota there was a company that made some sort of teflon/nylon insert for the leaf springs. You would remove the springs, take them apart, clean them up, install the inserts and replace the springs. I have searched this site as well as used Google but have not found anything.

Have any of you heard about this product and it is still being made? TIA!
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Haven't heard of it before for YJ's...

You have a 2.5L engine (it should say it right on the airbox). The 2.4L engine didn't come with Jeeps until 2003-2004.
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Haven't heard of it before for YJ's...

You have a 2.5L engine (it should say it right on the airbox). The 2.4L engine didn't come with Jeeps until 2003-2004.
Thanks. As I was looking over the pics we took there it was plain as day on the top of the airbox! Looked right past it I guess.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:15 AM   #16
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Talking I finally got it!

So I finally got it Saturday night, woo hoo. Seller even took off another $200.00 due to the fact he never got around to cleaning it, heck I was going to anyway but $200.00 is $200.00.

I did find the problem with the always on brake light, the switch on the E-brake was bent causing the always on condition. Unplugged it and all is good, now I will try to find a replacement switch. Replaced some broken parts on one headlight and the headlight itself now I have working lights, that's a good thing here in the desert.

Took out the seats and removed the old broken topper framework and gave it a good cleaning. Tried to remove the seat adjustors on the drivers seat and broke a bolt, so I switched the seats for now until I can get that repaired. Might have to look for new adjusters if I can't clean them up and get them to work.

Onward and upward. Thanks for listening.
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Unhappy Found our first problem

So the wife gets it smogged, registered, insured, and takes it to get all of the fluids changed and while doing so she notices that the clutch is not working correctly. So the guys at the lube place try to bleed the clutch and find a huge problem, the slave cylinder is just puking fluid everywhere.
Oh great.

So now we get to pull it apart, replace the slave cylinder and while it's apart throw in a new clutch for good measure. Well you know as well as I that the clutch is now soaked in brake fluid so it really has to have a new clutch.

No problem, I bought it knowing I would have to get some things repaired but man this one came fast! Onward and upward.
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So the wife gets it smogged, registered, insured, and takes it to get all of the fluids changed and while doing so she notices that the clutch is not working correctly. So the guys at the lube place try to bleed the clutch and find a huge problem, the slave cylinder is just puking fluid everywhere.
Oh great.

So now we get to pull it apart, replace the slave cylinder and while it's apart throw in a new clutch for good measure. Well you know as well as I that the clutch is now soaked in brake fluid so it really has to have a new clutch.

No problem, I bought it knowing I would have to get some things repaired but man this one came fast! Onward and upward.
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Thank you Dassquatch! Believe it or not I love it so far. Fun little Jeep, can't wait to get it in the dirt here, lots to see and do in the California high desert.
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Thank you Dassquatch! Believe it or not I love it so far. Fun little Jeep, can't wait to get it in the dirt here, lots to see and do in the California high desert.
I can believe it, I bought mine back in 2004, and had to rebuild the motor 3 months in. Get some dirt on it, and find a group to roll with.
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I can believe it, I bought mine back in 2004, and had to rebuild the motor 3 months in. Get some dirt on it, and find a group to roll with.
I have already found the local 4 wheel drive club and will go to my first meeting on the 28th. Time to see if I fit in the group, should be fun.
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So the wife gets it smogged, registered, insured, and takes it to get all of the fluids changed and while doing so she notices that the clutch is not working correctly. So the guys at the lube place try to bleed the clutch and find a huge problem, the slave cylinder is just puking fluid everywhere.
Oh great.

So now we get to pull it apart, replace the slave cylinder and while it's apart throw in a new clutch for good measure. Well you know as well as I that the clutch is now soaked in brake fluid so it really has to have a new clutch.

No problem, I bought it knowing I would have to get some things repaired but man this one came fast! Onward and upward.
If the clutch felt good before, there's no need to replace it. REPLACE THE SLAVE CYLINDER WITH A NAPA OR OEM PART!!! Don't waste your money on a cheap plastic unit unless you absolutely have to (like me).

The clutch won't get soaked in fluid, generally the slave cylinder just dumps it out through the bottom, there's not much that can cause it to splash up. Pulling the transmission will be the hardest part, though I've done it 3 times now and can have it out and back together in 4-5 hours.
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If the clutch felt good before, there's no need to replace it. REPLACE THE SLAVE CYLINDER WITH A NAPA OR OEM PART!!! Don't waste your money on a cheap plastic unit unless you absolutely have to (like me).

The clutch won't get soaked in fluid, generally the slave cylinder just dumps it out through the bottom, there's not much that can cause it to splash up. Pulling the transmission will be the hardest part, though I've done it 3 times now and can have it out and back together in 4-5 hours.
The clutch did feel OK before but I will check it, don't want to have to remove it all twice you know. Good advise on the slave cylinder, thanks!
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Talking My update

OK guys here is the latest, I now have a new slave (plastic was the only one I could find), new clutch (it was toast!) and all of the fliuds have been changed except for the radiator, just have not done it yet.

I also found an aftermarket tailgate latch and put it in last night, now I can open the tailgate, hell even the lock works. I am slowly getting her fixed up. If anybody has been looking for the latch I found it on Ebay by a seller named PartsPros and did not break the bank with the cost.

Thanks to 87jeepwrangler for the advise, after removing all of the torx bolts and bending the cover ever so slightly I was able to stick my finger in and work the release rod and open the gate.

Now I am waiting on my mirrors that should come today so I can legally drive her here in Ca. Onward and upward!

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