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Old 04-22-2010, 08:29 AM   #1
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Spare Tire Questions

Hi, I have a 1995 Jeep Wrangler, Rio Grande. I have only had it since the winter and don't know much about it other than I like it!

The spare tire used to sit inside the vehicle where the backseat might be, it's been stolen and I need to get a new one and would like it mounted this time.

There is no where to mount a spare tire. I picked up a wheel that will fit my car, the guy said to just take it to a tire store to have a tire put on. He said he can order in a used spare tire bracket kit for $120 but I don't really know what to expect. I think he said it has the high break light with it.

Can someone link me to pics of what this mounting assembly is for my model jeep?

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$120

You can pick up used take offs all day long for maybe $20.

Check your local craigslist and post up in the wanted section of the forum. Most people take them off to mount an aftermarket bumper with tire carrier and end up throwing the stock away, giving them away or lay them in the back of their garage to never be seen again.

I'll try and get you some pic's bud.

Also....WHAT SIZE tires are you running?

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here is a picture of the stock YJ tire mount....

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Thanks for the reply, I think what he priced is the bracket thingy, bolts and has the breaklight assembly to go over it, I'm not sure as I was confused!

I'd be glad to post a wanted ad, but I guess I'm not really sure what to ask for. I want to have knowledge of my jeep but just don't know where to start and am not in a crowd of car people either!

I'm gonna run outside and check my tires... it shows "31 x 10.5 or 15 LT" so I'm guessing that means I'm running 31s?

I'm attempting to include a pic of my jeep, mine's the '95 here, my husband drives the '08. I like my rumbly little Jeep

okay well I can't paste the pic in, so here is a link:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/...9&id=576353667
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thanks for showing me the stock spare tire mount. The auto parts store must have been pricing something else, being that it has a light attached. I never realized until today that I don't have a breaklight at the middle of my jeep like the '08 has over its spare. Do I need that? The wires are there for it.
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Here's an idea, I could order in a catalog of jeep parts to flip through and figure out what's what on my wrangler. Any company you suggest?
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Click this link and it will instruct you on how to post pictures on this forum...>> http://www.wranglerforum.com/f2/this...-pic-8794.html

As for the third brake light...well that depends on your state laws..Some do require you to have a third brake light "IF" it came from the factory with it on the vehicle.
Alot of jeeps run without it but if you wish to run it you can. The factory third brake light mounts to the tire mount. " if you look at the picture I posted you'll see a couple hole on the top of the mount"" it mounts there.
Still can get all of what you need for ALOT cheaper than what that "fella" quoted you. ALOT cheaper.

And here is the picture of your jeep....
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Not sure on years but 93,94,95 yj had a
rear brake light that came up off that rear tire carrier

But like Distorted said lots of people up grade this
tire carrier so they put the old one in the garage
now its cleaning time so you can find them for sale
on craigslist and such
Or you can post WANTED


I see your tires sure are stuffed in there
go slow
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Thanks guys, I just posted a wanted ad on Craigslist
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another option, granted a more expensive one would be to install a new rear bumper with a swingout tire carrier. Again much more expensive.
here is just one example:
Classic Rock Crawler Rear/Tire Carrier Bumper with D-rings by Smittybilt and Other Jeep Parts and Jeep Accessories by 4 Wheel Drive Hardware
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I see your tires sure are stuffed in there
go slow
I'm sorry, I'm confused here....
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another option, granted a more expensive one would be to install a new rear bumper with a swingout tire carrier. Again much more expensive.
here is just one example:
Classic Rock Crawler Rear/Tire Carrier Bumper with D-rings by Smittybilt and Other Jeep Parts and Jeep Accessories by 4 Wheel Drive Hardware
Thanks for the tip, I see it's recommended for oversized tires. At what size is a tire considered oversized?
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For your "WANTED" add........here you go. You can cut and paste this in the wanted section on this forum.....

Title....WTB stock yj carrier/brake light

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Wanted// stock yj tire carrier and third brake light.
If you also have the hardware (bolts to mount) I would also appreciate it, But not required.

Thank you so much for your help.
.................................................. .................

I wrote hardware not required because you can pick bolts up at any hardware store such as , lowes, ace hardware...and the such.

Does that help?
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Does that help?
Yes, thanks!!! =)
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I see your tires sure are stuffed in there
go slow
I'm sorry, I'm confused here....
What he means is that your 31's arn't stock, they came with 29's I believe. It looks like you have no lift(or/and your springs sagged) and the tires your running are to big. If you go to fast over a speed bump or any bump or hole you run the risk of ripping up your flares. Look at getting a SOA(spring over axle) or a full lift kit. Just know you can't go offroad in your Jeep till you make some room in between your tire and fender.
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good grief, glad I shared a picture. I never would have know that on my own! Thanks Zybeon

**looking at the picture, I now see it is totally obvious...
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Thanks for the tip, I see it's recommended for oversized tires. At what size is a tire considered oversized?
generally speaking a "33" would be considered "oversized". A big aggressive treaded "31" in some cases could be, but not likely.
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I ran into an issue with the new hard top and had to remove my tire carrier. I plan to re-work something with it just not sure what yet.

IF you have to open your hatch first in order to open your tailgate, the stock tire carrier WILL NOT WORK! Trust me... There is no way to open the hatch with the tire in the way and you cannot open the tailgate with the hatch closed.

We must go with a swing out bumper mount or something entirely different.
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Hi Chris, I've been wondering about exactly this. I do have to open the top hatch before I can open the tailgate so I guess I shouldn't even bother looking for a stock carrier.

But if a swingout bumper mount were to be installed, in order to get in the back I'd have to swing out the tire mount in order to open the hatch and tailgate.

hmm...


if I used the stock tire carrier I will free up the space inside my vehicle but my back hatch/gate will be useless.
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How about a spare tire bracket mounted atop a safari rack? good idea/bad idea?



ok, I totally pasted the direct .jpg image into an IMG tag.. you'd never guess that I used to program and design websites, lol, I've become so useless with computers.

http://www.quadratec.com/products/pr...84-add1-th.jpg
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if that works for ya, are you strong enough to get it down? could be cumbersome.
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Well I'd have to be strong enough, eh? Beats getting a flat and having nothing though. I'd have to start manhandling tires and prep for the day I get a flat. haha

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How about a spare tire bracket mounted atop a safari rack? good idea/bad idea?



ok, I totally pasted the direct .jpg image into an IMG tag.. you'd never guess that I used to program and design websites, lol, I've become so useless with computers.


You almost had the picture posted right, I fixed it for you.

I would suggest either a rear bumper with tire carrier or just getting a stock on from a junk yard and spend the extra cash on a lift, or even just new springs.

Edit: your link didn't work in the first place. Had to take down what you were looking at and get it

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So if I understand correctly, the rear bumper with tire carrier is able to support the extra weight of a larger tire. Does this swing out to allow the window and tailgate to open?

So far as a lift goes, all I think of when I think of lifting my jeep is "that sounds like fun!" I have no clue what is involved in that. I'm happy to learn to do some basic things, but that's the sort of job I think I'd let someone else do. Maybe I should look up a basic thread on lifts?
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Practically all bumper mounted tire carriers swing out to provide access to the tailgate in some way. Make sure it says it has a frame tie in kit, 31's should do ok but any bigger and you will want it.

Lift kits can get very pricey very fast, especially if you have a shop install it. You say your husband has a Jeep. I am sure he wouldn't mind helping. Also check for an off road group in your area they usually have wrenching parties to go work on peoples rigs. Normally for a case of beer.
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Funny, I hop on today for tips on what to do with my spare tire and now I'm researching lift kits =) The Rough Country 2.5 and 4 inch lifts seem to have good reviews on the forum and the price of the kit seems good.

Yeah, Greg drives a Wrangler also... a JK and he's not so mechanical... I'd totally dig working with someone on it, I think it would be cool to learn how to be handy with my Jeep. The off road group sounds like a super idea. We're in eastern NC, Craven County area if anyone knows of a group!
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Oh and one more thing. You will probably get from a lot of people on here. Quadratec is a great place to find what you want as their selection is unrivaled but most just find what they want on there then buy someplace else as Quadratec's prices are high and there shipping is a joke. Not to mention that I have heard a lot of customer service problems with them.
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Thanks for the heads up on Quadratec, I've already wandered across their site several times just today.
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Just some ideas


Spare Tire mount. $50


3rd brake light $15



Rear bumper with tire carrier. $360




For your lift you definatly don't want to go higher than 2.5" as any bigger and your tires will look real small and you will have to get so much more stuff to get your Jeep running smoothly. SYE(slip yoke eliminator) and new drive shaft/ or transfercase drop Bigger tires, regear axles or stronger axles, better brakes, stronger steering linkage. The list goes on but I think you get it.

I have a 2.5" lift with 33's I have a tranny drop of about 1/4" to get the vibs to go away, all Jeep's are different so you won't know how much you can lift without getting vibs till you actually do it. Also most lifts come with the tranny drop so you can always install it at the same time and probably won't get vibs to begin will. Oh I rattled on too long(what happens when your finished with your work load for the week and have nothing better to do!). What size tire do you ultimately want to get to and what do you use your Jeep for? I really do think you would be happy with a 2" or 2.5" lift. Man YJ lift kits are expensive! You should wait till the YJ'ers come out and recommend some lifts to you.
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Cool, yeah I was thinking a 2.5" lift would be adequate. The 4" lifts looked like too much for me. I don't think I have much need for larger tires, etc. anyway but I really don't have a clue what I want/need. it's my every day ride, but I'm sure I'd play off road if it was better equiped for doing such. I kinda happened upon this Jeep, we had an old broken Tacoma and the man that was going to repair it wanted to trade for his Wrangler. I said hell yeah!

I've been reading this thread on YJ lift reviews: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f8/yj-l...ews-25156.html Looks like the one highly recommended brand runs around $450, is that pricey? It seemed good to me but again, I am clueless about these things! But then if I have to pay someone to do it, yeah, the price will climb. I honestly don't understand most of what you typed but I'll keep reading, reading, reading and eventually I know it will all fall into place.

I'm wondering too about the other thing you mentioned, the SOA kit. I totally need someone cool with Jeeps to be here with my jeep and tell me what's up!

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