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Old 01-05-2014, 04:46 PM   #1
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Switching to stick

Wanna change my 3 speed auto to a 5 speed manual.. What do you all think

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I'd say go for it. I've always been partial for a 5/6 speed

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Wanna change my 3 speed auto to a 5 speed manual.. What do you all think
that's a good way to spend a lot of money and decrease the value at the same time
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that's a good way to spend a lot of money and decrease the value at the same time
Decrease? id say Increase, you get LOADS better millage, and most Joe Satriani
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Its not too hard, Flywheel, Clutch assembly, Tcase input gear, AX-15.
Clutch pedal assembly, hydrolic lines and fittings, and a harness connector for your reverse light plug...
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I would agree with harleydragon on this.

You are going to spend a lot of money to switch from an auto to a manual trans. unless you have a donor YJ sitting right beside yours to get all the parts from.

Starting from the front back....

You need a new fly wheel, starter, and is the crank bored to accept a pilot bearing (some were not)

A bell housing, trans, change gear on the t-case, as well as a new skid plate.

New driveshafts, wiring harness for the trans.

Then inside, new clutch and brake pedal assemblies, clutch master and the hydraulic line. different brake light switch, cut a hole in the floor pan.

And I'm sure I forgot a few other things as well.

A local garage here did that for a guy and the bill was over 5 grand. $5,000 for a jeep that was worth $2,000. There's a good investment...NOT!
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WAY better off looking for another jeep that already IS.......

Then selling YOURS....... OR doing a trade with the manual owner.....
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Decrease? id say Increase, you get LOADS better millage, and most Joe Satriani
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Wed, Feb 12, 2014 prefer a manual in a Jeep.

Its not too hard, Flywheel, Clutch assembly, Tcase input gear, AX-15.
Clutch pedal assembly, hydrolic lines and fittings, and a harness connector for your reverse light plug...
How the heck did that Joe Satrani get in there, ignore that...

You will gt mucgh better MPG with a manual, most jeepers want a manual, so it adds to the resale value.... unless you want a Barbie Jeep..

IMO...
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How the heck did that Joe Satrani get in there, ignore that...

You will gt mucgh better MPG with a manual, most jeepers want a manual, so it adds to the resale value.... unless you want a Barbie Jeep..

IMO...
most of the jeeps I sell are to 40+ adults and a very large percentage of the ones that come to me looking for a jeep want an automatic..that has just been my experience..At present I have a 91 yj,4.0, auto with 33's.It gets a consistent 17mpg.I doubt that there are very many 6 cylinder standard shifts beating that by very much in combined day to day driving
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If it were a TJ, id recommend an auto, the overdrive is GREAT!
YJs only have the 3 speed (unless I missed something), and that means you can only get the overdrive with a manual.

Guys 40+ should know Jeeps are traditionally a manual, lol

My 2.5L with a manual got 14... but its a small motor to be pushing 33s....
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If it were a TJ, id recommend an auto, the overdrive is GREAT!
YJs only have the 3 speed (unless I missed something), and that means you can only get the overdrive with a manual.

Guys 40+ should know Jeeps are traditionally a manual, lol

My 2.5L with a manual got 14... but its a small motor to be pushing 33s....
traditionally ? Really ? Jeeps were available with automatic transmissions for at least 11 years before they had square headlights.So,I guess all you guys need to sell your yj's because they are not traditional..I can't believe that the guy who trys to push fuel injection everytime someone asks a carb question is now talking traditional..Most of the 40+ guys that I know put what they like above tradition or what someone else likes..

As far as gas mileage,there are many things that determine that..My 4.0 engine with auto tranny and 33's turns about the same rpm at say 60 mph as it would if I were running an overdrive tranny with stock tires.I think that is why I get such good gas mileage.If it had an overdrive with the 33's and running the same gearing it would probably get less mpg..


Bottom line is run what YOU like best regardless of what anyone else things..My original post was only my opinion from what I have experienced.I can sell one with an auto,faster and for more money than I can a manual.So,in only my opinion,it would be throwing money away to spend the time and money to swap to a manual..No doubt everyone has an opinion..
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traditionally ? Really ? Jeeps were available with automatic transmissions for at least 11 years before they had square headlights.So,I guess all you guys need to sell your yj's because they are not traditional..I can't believe that the guy who trys to push fuel injection everytime someone asks a carb question is now talking traditional..Most of the 40+ guys that I know put what they like above tradition or what someone else likes..

As far as gas mileage,there are many things that determine that..My 4.0 engine with auto tranny and 33's turns about the same rpm at say 60 mph as it would if I were running an overdrive tranny with stock tires.I think that is why I get such good gas mileage.If it had an overdrive with the 33's and running the same gearing it would probably get less mpg..


Bottom line is run what YOU like best regardless of what anyone else things..My original post was only my opinion from what I have experienced.I can sell one with an auto,faster and for more money than I can a manual.So,in only my opinion,it would be throwing money away to spend the time and money to swap to a manual..No doubt everyone has an opinion..
In 1942 you couldn't get an auto...
Manual is my preference, Automatics are too prone to failure, and that is why my posts reflect this.

You are correct, whats best is what you prefer as a Jeep owner.

I lean heavily towards fuel injection because its less prone to failure, How often do you adjust your carb? EVERY EMISSIONS TEST!

You sell autos faster, thats great, there are ALOT of people who cant drive a stick, or its easier to drive a automatic, while texting, putting on makeup, and changing the radio in heavy traffic, compared a stick, so odds are you will sell more autos.

That is a no-brainer with today's market, too many people dont WANT to drive a stick, or cant, dont want to learn.
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anyone that wonders about different jeep transmissions being prone to failure should just take a stroll through the pages of questions in the yj forum..You will find post after post about clutches,slave cylinders,master cylinders,gears grinding,gears inop and being stuck in gear,among other problems with manual trannys..I bet on this same trip,you find very few questions concerning auto tranny problems..In the past year I have had 5 jeeps with auto trannys and they all worked great.I had 4 jeeps with manual trannies and the only one that didn't have problems was a 71 cj5 with a manual clutch and a 3 speed tranny
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When I worked at Autoworld Dodge in Petaluma Ca. we have TONS of issues with autos (mind you these were 4 speeds with the OD, and REQUIRED ATF+4).
For some reason, if you stick with 30K service intervals, and ATF+4, no issues...

No issues with manuals until the NV3550, and those were only noise complaints.

My personal Jeeps experience is driving 6 years on 33's stock 4:10s without grenading my AX5...

But I have said enough...
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Another thing if I may add is there are more manual trannys in the Jeep world the autos. You also wont find more auto questions on here because most people that have any ambition to do anything with a jeep other just go grocery shopping bought a manual. The few that bought an auto either got a good deal, didnt know how to drive a stick, or dont like juggling things when your trying to drink or eat while driving. When you picture a Jeep im sure most people see a stick in it, in fact if I picture it with an automatic it has a 350 in it. Manual trannys give you more control throughout your powerrange and is more fun to drive (for me at least ). I know in the winter on ice and snow I downshift before i ever touch the brake. There is a reason super cars come with sticks and not autos. If you would rather drive an auto then more power to ya. Also to the guy that made this thread. Youd be better off selling your jeep and buying one with a stick unless your jeep holds a special place in your heart.
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Old 01-13-2014, 03:51 PM   #15
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Thanks for the input guys but there's no way I'm getting rid of my jeep it's way to special to me so I think I'm gonna wait till I can save up enough money and find a manual trans
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I am currently doing this to mine, but I'm putting a sbc up front. IL probably have a little better than a grand in mine before it's said and done. If you are mechanically inclined it's not a very hard swap.

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