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Old 06-26-2008, 12:48 AM   #1
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trying to decide about my lift

whats a good lift size that will make it look good. i was thinking 3-3 1\2

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yeahi would suggest at least a 3", as you said. I'm runnin a 3" i think... and I like it, looks good with 32" tires... I might put some new shackles on there one day and step up to 33s or something, but I do like the look I have now, especially since it is a dd, and didnt want to go too big

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soa is the way to go, rides nicer than stock and way nicer than any lift.
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soa is the way to go, rides nicer than stock and way nicer than any lift.
yeah that would be the way to go... I kinda wish I did that, but maybe in the future sometime... i dunno
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Is there a good SOA lift kit out there ive seen a bunch and dont really know which one is the best buy.
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how much would it be to go soa
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yeahi would suggest at least a 3", as you said. I'm runnin a 3" i think... and I like it, looks good with 32" tires... I might put some new shackles on there one day and step up to 33s or something, but I do like the look I have now, especially since it is a dd, and didnt want to go too big
i was thinking about doing the shackles and thats it for now what do you think?
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:33 PM   #8
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i just did a soa on a frinds. it took a few hours and didn't cost that much. i did all the welding and cutting. i would go that route if i had a good set of stock springs. if you springs are good i would buy the spring perches and weld them in and get ride of all the unnecessary crape. it is not as hard as most people think..
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soa is the way to go, rides nicer than stock and way nicer than any lift.
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You'll need a SYE and a CV driveline, a drop pitman arm, and spring perches. At least thats what I needed. I also just relocated the brake lines under the frame instead of getting extensions. You might be able to get away with a t-case lowering kit instead of the SYE and CV but I don't know. I've never ran a t-case lowering kit on an SOA.
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hmm thanks i might need someone to help me on this one i might be able to do it myself

how much did the SOA cost all together?
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This is a list of what you need and how much.

Slip Yoke Eliminator - $189
Rubicon Express
http://www.rubiconexpress.com/Produc...=EF35426260476

CV Driveline - About $350+
Tom Woods or 4WD
http://www.4xshaft.com/index.html
http://www.4wd.com/subcategories.aspx?cid=8&jeep-sid=98

Spring Perches - $20 +/-
I got mine locally from a spring and axle shop

Drop Pitman Arm - $75
4 Wheel Drive Hardware
http://www.4wd.com/productdetails.aspx?partID=7062
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soo im looking anywhere from 6 to 700
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About that, ya. Now I don't know, and maybe someone else will chime in, but you might be able to run just a t-case drop instead of the SYE and CV saving about 500. Shocks I forgot about shocks. You'll need new lift shocks or do what I did and relocate your shock mounts. I did it because I didn't want the shock mounts hanging below the axle tube.
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ya you can run a t drop and not do sye so it will be a lot less.
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i'd say not doing sye would be just temporary, you'll need it eventually if you wanna wheel. i run t case drop w/ soa to reduce the angle of the rear pinion, the more its changed, the less oil the pinion bearings get.

don't forget about setting rear pinion angle when you do sye.

you can make spring perches out of square tubing, drill the right size hole, and cut it in half, will need u bolts to most likely and sway bar disconnects if you aren't gonna ditch it all together.
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so the more this goes the more complicated it seems
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I'm also thinking about doing a soa, I found a good shop to do the work for me, including the sye and cv......my only hesitation is Im not sure i should do this to a 4 banger.

I love my jeep, got it for cheap, it looks nice and runs great......what I need is someone to tell me, "sure go for it, or "dude get a 6 cyl first"

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This Jeep was my motivation. I did upgrade my rear axle to a Ford 8.8 at the same time. You can start a pile of parts like I did to help spread the cost out.
BTW this Jeep is a 4 cyl.

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my first wrangler was a 4 banger and i did soa and eventually bigger. do it, you'll like it.
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my first wrangler was a 4 banger and i did soa and eventually bigger. do it, you'll like it.

That's it! I'm doing it. Been thinking about it for over a year and I've made up my mind.

I will drop my jeep off this coming Saturday...look em in the eye and say, "Give me the SOA"!

I'll worry about gears and axles and all the other stuff later....because if I dont get the lift done, I can't move on to the next mod.

I wanna ride high (can already here the jokes) and proud, and damnit I'm doing it!!!

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congrats man... i plan on doing this conversion in the future... maybe after i graduate and am working with a steady paycheck...
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I'm also thinking about doing a soa, I found a good shop to do the work for me, including the sye and cv......my only hesitation is Im not sure i should do this to a 4 banger.

I love my jeep, got it for cheap, it looks nice and runs great......what I need is someone to tell me, "sure go for it, or "dude get a 6 cyl first"

Help me out

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How much is it going to run you to have someone else do it??
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Probally about 2k for the soa with all the necessary mods. If i wanted to switch out the rear axle with some different gears ...probally around 1k.

Ill know more next week, Im going in there to get an itemization. I know it sounds expensive, but I want to know my Jeep can do what is asked of it when the time comes.

The quotes I got for a 4 inch lift kit were aroun 1300-1700. So, I guess the extra money would be better spent on the soa from what people are saying.

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I know people that have had a wrench fest for their SOA and I had people offer to help me save money by doing mine at their residence. I decided to go to a local shop that does many SOA conversions and it was nice knowing any surprises would be easily handled and not leave me stranded with no vehicle since it was my only vehicle at the time. Any little bugs Tony was quick to fix and I had no worries about safety. Axle swap and SOA with his fab work was done in a weekend.
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http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/soa.html

Heres a good link explaining the soa lift

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