Hi, i bought a 1991 Yj and its great. except the fact that the frame is badly rusted only by the rear shackle. I have already bought the cut out pieces for the back to be weld in but for some reason everyone i know that has a welder is being difficult. Is it really that difficult of a weld to do? I've seen people done this to their jeeps over weekends so i really don't understand. Are they honest or just being a**holes? and also does anyone know or have the ability to do this job relatively cheap? i bought this jeep because i worked all summer and i really don't have anymore money to spend on it. Thanks
Welding is an art. The average guy can do body work but when it comes to critical things like frames and axles, they need to be done right.
I can't speak for your friends but I have a welder, and have done some body work with it on my Willys restoration. If someone asked me to weld their frame, I'd have to say no because I wouldn't want someone to trust theit life to my welding skills.
That being said, it may come down to the job itself. Frame work can be quite dirty so maybe if you offered to do all the prep work they might be glad to help you.
Is it possible to do over a weekend? Yes. Is it likely to get it done cheap? Maybe. Is it an easy thing to do? No.
To do both sides of the frame is about an 8 hr job. That is if you have already prepped the area by pulling the fuel tank and getting all the bad sections cut out and removing the fuel lines and the electrical wires in the area to be welded. So figure an 8hr. job times what most professional welders get per hr. Which in this area is $80-$120/hr. So if you had it professionally done it would cost you between $640 and $960 for the pieces to be welded in.
To weld the repair parts onto the existing frame it has to be stitched together, because 1 continuous weld will create too much heat and the frame rails will warp. Thus the reason why it will take 8 hrs. to do the job.
You cant own a 20 something year old Jeep that needs repairs like yours without having all the tools to do the repairs needed, unless you have really deep pockets that are stuffed with boat loads of cash. Free or cheap just doesn't happen in the welding business, specially when it pertains to frame welding. Like it was said above, welding is an art, and if you want it done correctly, you will pay for the artist to do his work.
'87 YJ, 4.2L built and bored, 8.5" of lift, 8.8 rear, AX15/NP 231, Tom Woods drive shafts, Flat fenders, 12,000LB winch, Custom bumpers, Rattle can paint job. Never completed...
I did mobile welding for a while, I wouldn't do frames because of the liability. I would do my own but to take a chance on someone elses for a couple of hundred bucks just wasn't worth it. my nephew builds custom cars, some with complete frames but refuses to weld patches on a rusted out frame, if its rusted thru theres a good chance the rest is ready to go from internal rust.
1987, 4,2, rebuilt, head casting cleaned up, port matched and milled-9.5 compression, hotter cam holley 4 bbl
Im just really annoyed because i do understand that its art but everyone around me was really helpful until the came to look at it and realized that it is not a 2 min job. Also i am not saying that i want to just give someone my jeep to do the whole work on get it back for almost free. I am a handy guy, I've done almost everything on my volvo (daily driver) including changing a blown head gasket. which everyone told me not worth it, sell the car for 500 buck and get a new one. Bullsh*t. Ive done the whole job including changing the water pump for 400 bucks. So after that experience it just feels like its repeating again but with welding. All i need is something that i can lift the car with. I will clean it up and take the gas tank out, which btw has the weirdest leak I've ever seen, because it seems like the gas leaks from the bottom of the trunk floor onto the gas tank. and all I'm asking those people to do is just weld in those two pieces, if i knew how to weld i would have done it my self as well.