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Old 06-24-2013, 07:20 AM   #7801
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You could also mount it across the 2 rear wheels inside the cab behind the rear seat. You would need to take out the plastic inserts for the wheel wells to bolt them in, but a great place to install them.
sounds like a great idea. Thanks

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Old 06-24-2013, 10:09 AM   #7802
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I hope you just cut the bolts and bought new ones, dropping the springs would be a major PITA!!!

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I hope you just cut the bolts and bought new ones, dropping the springs would be a major PITA!!!
No we ended up dropping the springs only had to loosen them up a bit so wasn't as bad as we though it would have been!! All shocks are I stalled. Couldn't get the old steering stabilizer off to replace it. Hubby took the nut off tried beating it out and wouldn't budge at all. Been driving it around with the nut off as it won't go back on from beating on the threads hoping for it to come loose but see it happening!
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No we ended up dropping the springs only had to loosen them up a bit so wasn't as bad as we though it would have been!! All shocks are I stalled. Couldn't get the old steering stabilizer off to replace it. Hubby took the nut off tried beating it out and wouldn't budge at all. Been driving it around with the nut off as it won't go back on from beating on the threads hoping for it to come loose but see it happening!
Start spraying the bolts with PB Blaster twice a day for a few days and try again, that should do ya!
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No we ended up dropping the springs only had to loosen them up a bit so wasn't as bad as we though it would have been!! All shocks are I stalled. Couldn't get the old steering stabilizer off to replace it. Hubby took the nut off tried beating it out and wouldn't budge at all. Been driving it around with the nut off as it won't go back on from beating on the threads hoping for it to come loose but see it happening!
For future reference, it's always wise, especially when working with any tapered bolt; such as a tie rod end, or ball joint, to thread the nut back on a few threads in before beating on it.
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No we ended up dropping the springs only had to loosen them up a bit so wasn't as bad as we though it would have been!! All shocks are I stalled. Couldn't get the old steering stabilizer off to replace it. Hubby took the nut off tried beating it out and wouldn't budge at all. Been driving it around with the nut off as it won't go back on from beating on the threads hoping for it to come loose but see it happening!
I had to use a gear puller to get mine off and by the time I did it was destroyed. Glad I had gotten a new one.
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You really don't even need to run one on a yj.. I never bothered trying to after I swapped axles and I've never had any problems either
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You really don't even need to run one on a yj.. I never bothered trying to after I swapped axles and I've never had any problems either
Will keep that in mind!
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That all depends on setup though. If I didn't have mine I would be dead, or at least without a Jeep.
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How so? All it does is provide resistance when steering.. Now if something else is messed up in your steering and the stabilizer is just masking it, then sure if you took it off you could have issues.. But running without one will let you know early on if you have any problems
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How so? All it does is provide resistance when steering.. Now if something else is messed up in your steering and the stabilizer is just masking it, then sure if you took it off you could have issues.. But running without one will let you know early on if you have any problems
No, the resistence in steering is a side effect of its intended purpose. It stops wobble, and also stops things you hit from shaking your steering strait through to the steering wheel. It assists in keeping your tires where you point them regardless of what you hit that tries to knock them in a different direction. Without it energy transfers directly into your steering box and then into your wheel causing loss of.control. Bad at higher speeds, and even worse if lifted enough.

The reason I said it is so important for me is I am lifted about 7", and the highways going to my in-laws have long strips of potholes here and there. I have a hard enough time keeping it strait now when I hit them, and I slow down quite a bit.
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I'm lifted about 9 inches higher than stock, hit bumps and potholes at almost any speed, havent had a steering stabilizer on in over a year and have never had any negative steering input, wobbles or anything..

What you describe is worn out components, be it ball joints or tie rod ends, even a bad alignment.. Steering stabilizers usually mask those problems until they become so bad they overcome the steering stabilizer entirely
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I'm lifted about 9 inches higher than stock, hit bumps and potholes at almost any speed, havent had a steering stabilizer on in over a year and have never had any negative steering input, wobbles or anything..

What you describe is worn out components, be it ball joints or tie rod ends, even a bad alignment.. Steering stabilizers usually mask those problems until they become so bad they overcome the steering stabilizer entirely
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I've NEVER had a stabilizer in place the ENTIRE time I've owned my YJ (about 12 years) - and it was set up with stock suspension and wheels when I owned it - and I noticed the same thing as OverkillYJ AFTER I lifted and put in bigger wheels - she was nearly out of control on the highway after hitting major bumps and what-not. After further investigation, I needed to replace quite a few things that had worn out over the years and after that I hardly notice the problems I had before.

Though, I will comment that I still DO experience a little bit of wandering after hitting major bumps/potholes in my YJ on the highway... Though it's not too bad. She just wants to slightly - SLIGHTLY - turn in a certain direction after hitting them and after correction, she's fine.
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Nothing worn out on mine. All new actually. But I do have a high steer, not that it makes a difference. My angles are great and I don't even have a drop Pittman arm. Either way why do you think they call them steering stabilizers? They absorb all the shock. Nothing else between you and your wheels is designed to. That it what makes components wear out faster.

Just because you drive it without doesn't mean you don't need it. I wouldn't let anyone drive mine without it. When it comes to steering I do everything to keep it safe.
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This belongs with the popular, "do I need a swaybar" question. My answer is always yes, Some people with springs arched more than mine don't, but I do. I still drive it disconnected all the time though. I know not to make and sharps turns at higher speed unless I want to roll. Just depends on where I am going. Whenever anyone asks I always tell them they need it and not to drive without it since I don't want to see a pic of their totaled YJ on here next week. For all I know these people got their teenage kids driving these things sometimes.

I also live in a city of potholes. As far as components, Hubs, and Tie Rod Ends are new. Steering box is tight. Even replaced the bearing in the firewall not too long ago. But I have no problems, my steering is nice and snug. I will be putting in a Durango steering box soon though.
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...Is that a 'Jolly Roger' I see flying as your flag?
I always sport one too!
(I used to run at the Badlands in Indiana. They require a flag on all vehicles... good idea in a crowded off-road setting. I just started flying my pirate flag every time I went wheelin' - kinda became a symbol).
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No, the resistence in steering is a side effect of its intended purpose. It stops wobble, and also stops things you hit from shaking your steering strait through to the steering wheel. It assists in keeping your tires where you point them regardless of what you hit that tries to knock them in a different direction. Without it energy transfers directly into your steering box and then into your wheel causing loss of.control.
I agree .... I have had several different off-road vehicles. Especially on the trail.... hit a large rock and feel the steering wheel jerk, gets kinda scary, more so going down a boulder-strewn hill. I have noticed a difference with the stabilizer. On road, not much of a big deal, but then I'm not 'bumpin' into things either.
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:35 AM   #7820
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...Is that a 'Jolly Roger' I see flying as your flag?
I always sport one too!
(I used to run at the Badlands in Indiana. They require a flag on all vehicles... good idea in a crowded off-road setting. I just started flying my pirate flag every time I went wheelin' - kinda became a symbol).
It's a modified Jolly Rodger for the infantry. I'll post a photo later. I fly mine at SMORR all the time.
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Sounds like your steering problems are do to the loss of caster... when you lifted your junk it turned your axle and changed your caster....now you need a steering dampener to mask issues such as death wobble and the jerking the steering wheel out of your hand when you hit a bump.....not to mention your wondering all over the road problem....
No steering dampener here....on any of my leaf spring rigs...
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So I attempted to swap my YJ steering gear for a Durango steering gear but after snapping the heads off of TWO breaker bars trying to get the pitman arm nut off, one Craftsman and one Snap-On, I gave up... For now... I've soaked it all in PB for the past week!

... I need air tools... And an impact drill.. Haha!

In an attempt to accomplish SOMETHING today, I finally removed my stock jack from under the hood...

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Bought my baby some new shoes.


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So I attempted to swap my YJ steering gear for a Durango steering gear but after snapping the heads off of TWO breaker bars trying to get the pitman arm nut off, one Craftsman and one Snap-On, I gave up... For now... I've soaked it all in PB for the past week!

... I need air tools... And an impact drill.. Haha!

In an attempt to accomplish SOMETHING today, I finally removed my stock jack from under the hood...
Get a 24" or longer with a 3/4 drive rated for 800lbs or more. You won't break that.
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Get a 24" or longer with a 3/4 drive rated for 800lbs or more. You won't break that.
Haha! Noted! I'm going to go at it again tomorrow... And with a torch of in gotta!!
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Might need to add some heat to the nut...

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So I attempted to swap my YJ steering gear for a Durango steering gear but after snapping the heads off of TWO breaker bars trying to get the pitman arm nut off, one Craftsman and one Snap-On, I gave up... For now... I've soaked it all in PB for the past week!

... I need air tools... And an impact drill.. Haha!

In an attempt to accomplish SOMETHING today, I finally removed my stock jack from under the hood...

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Might need to add some heat to the nut...
Word.. I'm going to back over to my Dad's garage tomorrow (It's been in the 90's - not gonna work outside. Haha!) I didn't have my torch with me today - I didn't even think about it until after I got home - but I'm going to bring it this time. Got a "rose bud" tip I think will work well for the job.

The Steering gear the junkyard gave me still had the pitman arm on it as well - though the "bottom" side of the pitman arm is different - so it looks like I'm going to have to struggle with removing that as well.

All the seals appear to be good, and the gear was still holding fluid - but I managed to get a new seal kit from the parts store - for $12, I figured why not?
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Flushed ac system and changed dryer. Got her 10 degrees cooler. I know jeep no doors or top who needs AC but someone back in 94 paid extra for that in the Sahara might as well make use of it. it will be need come August.
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