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Old 08-29-2006, 05:25 PM   #1
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Question whats your opinion (Lift)

I have a 94 yj with 31x11.50 ltb swampers and am looking for cheap tire clearence (they rub when I hit a rut or bump) Ive considered a body lift but the guys at 4-wheel Parts say they can be a nightmare to put on if the old bolts dont come out.
I've also considered a shackle lift but they only go to 1 3/4 and that would only give me 1" and I don't know if that would be enough. and I dont have the money for a suspension lift at all
(wife and 2-kids)
so "whats your opinion"

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Old 08-29-2006, 06:35 PM   #2
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We put a 2" shackle lift on our 93 YJ, yes it only yields a 1" lift
but it was enough to fit 31x 9.5 Mickey Thompsons . We are going to trim the flairs to get rid of the ocassional rubs. Also these tires actually measure 30". Measure yours to see what the actual height is. Our project was to replace the P235s that were on the jeep with out major expense of springs , shocks, brake lines,drive shafts, etc. Ya know the expensive stuff.

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Old 08-29-2006, 06:43 PM   #3
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mine measure 30 1/4in. the biggest shackles I have found are 1 3/4in. lift. where did you find 2" Did you have them made? Just wondering because I thought about fabbing some myself but I thought there might be a reason they are only 1 3/4
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:46 PM   #4
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Spring over? Might cause you other drivetrain problems maybe putting the cost to high...
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Old 08-29-2006, 06:52 PM   #5
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what kind of problems? would you run into the same problems with the rear driveshaft as a suspension lift (slipjoint replacement, or Tcase lowering kit?)
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:26 PM   #6
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unless you want a TON of clearance then you don't want a spring over...i've heard they ride rough...plus they give you well over 4 inches of lift...thats way too much for 31's...a lot of times of heard that it will give you 5+ inches of lift
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Old 08-29-2006, 07:29 PM   #7
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your right that would be way to much for me. Have you guys heard of those add a leaf kits? are they OK I just saw one on ebay and was wondering.
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Old 08-29-2006, 08:13 PM   #8
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We had our 2" shackels installed locally. I will ask what brand they are when I pick it backup tomorrow. Broke a motor mount ,
but thats another story. The hardest part they say is getting at mounting bolts at the rear.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:07 AM   #9
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Where are the tires rubbing? Front, rear both? On the flares, body or both?

I have known several people that have used the add-a-leafs to get a little extra lift. It will work, but will stiffen your ride. You will loose some flex if that concerns you.

Go to google.com and type in:
2" lift shackle YJ"
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Old 08-30-2006, 03:11 AM   #10
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I've got some Bestop TJ Extended flares I need to sell. PM me if you're interested. They'll get you a lot of clearance in the rear. Shackles are an easy way to get a little clearance and seemed to firm up the ride when I first installed them. I've got a few sets of differing lengths laying around, lemme know what if you need some. I'd try to trim the body first for clearance. Moderate shackle lift next, and 1" body lift after that.

Installing a body lift isn't too bad, but they're right that if you break a nut loose in the tub it can be a nightmare getting it handled. You can do it super cheap with hockey pucks though. Maybe try spinning the bolts out one by one and see how they do. You can't really get to the back to PB Blast them though.
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Do a small schackle lift, and Extend your bump stops a bit. This should help with the rubbing. Having too much of a schackle lif (the one's you see on jeeps at the mall with 4"'s of schackle lift) will also cause the springs to wear faster over time, and just looks dumb.
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:28 PM   #12
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Thanks for all the advice I will probably go with a 2in shackle lift and if that dosent help then I guess its either a body lift or add a leaf. but just wanted to say thanks for takin the time.

Just bought some Hella fog/driving lights should help it to look better.
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Old 09-05-2006, 12:34 PM   #13
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I have 2" shackles from warrior products. The only problem I have with them is the powder coat didn't hold up well. Another option is a set of TJ flares. A little fender trimming is required, but this alone should stop your rubbing problems. These are also easy to find on ebay.
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Old 09-05-2006, 01:17 PM   #14
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Where are the tires rubbing? Front, rear both? On the flares, body or both?
I have a 95 and am running 31 x 10.5's no lift. The only place I have seen mine rub is on the shackles at full steering turn. I've been meaning to adjust my stops, but haven't gotten around to it. In the meantime, I am just careful not to turn full range.
If you have 11.5's I can't imagine that yours isn't rubbing on the shackles at full turn.
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Old 09-05-2006, 04:07 PM   #15
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if they rub the shackles then wouldn't that be due to backspacing? or do the shackles move up when you lift it so that they are not in the way?
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Old 09-05-2006, 06:36 PM   #16
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Your right DARE2BSQUARE they do rub when I turn completly so I just try not to cut it so hard. I think this is caused by my rims not being offset enough. thought about spacers but everyone says they will wear out your bearings quick. I dont know but I will just save up for some new rims.
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Old 09-05-2006, 06:39 PM   #17
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they do wear out bearings quick but more importantly is that the studs get shorter when you put the spacer on and then some of your lug nuts could come off...you can get black steel rock crawler wheels with the correct amount of backspacing (3.75" is probably right) for about $50 a piece or cheaper (15x8)
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Old 09-05-2006, 07:00 PM   #18
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This is probably my backspacing problem. The wheels are off of a late 80's xj. I like the look, and for my uses (muddy terrain on the hunting club) they work fine.

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Old 09-05-2006, 07:05 PM   #19
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wow good looking jeep. (do you work at a body shop?) looks flawless.
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Old 09-05-2006, 07:34 PM   #20
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No. That's how it looked when I bought it in January. I added the bikini, windjammer and duster. Put in a console. Pioneer Super Tuner w/CD and Sony xplodes. Bought and mounted the jack. Got that killer conservation license plate. Put in a fire extinguisher and first aid kit. Next up is Grizzly Grip for the inside of the tub, and a receiver hitch. Need some camo neoprene seat covers. Oh, and I have got to get rid of that spare and get a real tire for it!!!
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:28 PM   #21
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Dare2besquare, I've always loved the look of those wheels. Don't they remind you of hurricanes? Like the wheels that were on the General Lee...

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