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Old 08-17-2013, 08:31 PM   #1
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Why buy a YJ?

I have had my eye on buying a jeep for some time and was mainly looking at TJs, however, this will be my first jeep and for the price, YJs are a very appealing option too at least as my first jeep. Why did YOU buy a YJ and are there benefits of a YJ over TJ?

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You mean other than PRICE...... CAPABILITY...... availability of used parts...... LOOKS.....???

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There were several things that appealed to me when buying the YJ over TJ. The price wasn't the main factor, I could have got a TJ for what I paid for the YJ.

The YJ has a more sexy appeal with the square headlights, leaf springs hanging out of the front, and no matter where I take her she gets noticed. If you like attention a YJ will bring it, at gas stations, parking lots, and pretty much everywhere I go, someone comes up to talk to me about the Jeep.

Now besides the cosmetic appeal, I have the carb 4.2L, and I actually like it. I love to tinker under the hood. I love the stiffness of the suspension. I love the simplicity of the mechanics. Quite frankly, the YJ just has the classic off road look and mechanical design I like. I have a YJ because its just plain Cool! Good luck
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to be honest, at first i didn't even consider a YJ because of the leaf spring suspension, square lights, and wipers sitting on the windshield... but the more I look at them, the sexier they get. Every time I see a great looking jeep with a nice stance, it's a YJ 95% of the time. Thanks, and keep the comments coming, I really like the fact that they are stripped down like jeep should be, the tricky part will be finding one with no rust... that looks challenging.
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YJ wasnt my first choice I wanted a TJ. Love the coil sprung suspension, the interior lay out of the TJ. But I had a buddy getting rid of his project YJ so i picked it up cheap. Im hoping soon to put a 5.5in TJ lift under my YJ cause I want the leaf springs out.
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I initially didn't prefer the yj either. I wanted the so called classic round headlights etc. Cheap parts and simplicity as well as reasonable prices compared to what people were asking for decent CJs swayed me.

For my price range, Rust free TJs were out of my reach, but YJs weren't. And actually were not that hard to find. The squared lights grew on me, the simplified suspension did too. The money I saved over a TJ, and from getting rid of the debt after selling my JK was well worth it. Now I have more to make my YJ exactly what I want, and now I don't worry about denting/off roading my YJ since I own it out right.
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My YJ just kind of fell in my lap when a shop I deal with had a customer wanting to sell it so I bought it. I wasn't looking for a jeep at all. Matter of fact I wasn't even thinking of one. Once I got it back home and drove it I was hooked. I had two friends in high school with old CJ's. One was a '48 and the other a '56. The YJ reminded me of those jeeps from my youth. I fell in love with it. My wife has an 01 TJ. 5.5" lift riding on 33's. Very capable jeep on and off road. Mine is 4.5" on 35's. If I were to buy another jeep, it would either be a CJ or YJ. I just really like the ruggedness of the YJ. When I drive it off road I feel like I can do anything as long as its with me. Amolst like that trusted old dog you never want to go anywhere without. I guess that's it. My jeep is like an old dog, loyal to the end.
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Jurassic park was my favorite movie as kid, and I fell in love with the yj's. My mom also had a 1991 islander that I used to love sitting in and pretending to drive. Price wasn't a real factor in my choice; I had an xj that I got and built for far cheaper than my yj, but I rolled it and decided it was time to get my dream vehicle. And OUJeep2 was right about people always coming up to talk to you about the yj's, I always have people come up to me and tell me things like they don't make them like they used to, and how good my car looks for being about 24 years old. Yj's are also very easy to work on because there is not a tight engine bay, and very minimal electrical. You'd also be shocked at just how capable they are for being leaf sprung, I've gone places were tj's with the same height lift can't go with everything else being the same.
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I needed a CJ7 or YJ/TJ, I just cant get comfortable in those small CJ2-5s....
The YJ was the best bang for the buck, and WAY more modifiable money-wise then the TJ, and CJ7s are getting scarce...

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They are a great choice with less electronics to fail than a TJ, but remember the age of them. With age comes failure on some of the basic parts, which can be a headache. It will give you more time to really learn the ins and outs of the jeep. The YJ is a VERY simple vehicle to work on with basic mechanical skills needed.

Parts are readily available and there's adapters for everything. If you want to drop a big V8 in it, there's adapters for that. Want to drop a turbo diesel in it? There's adapters. Want to change the tranny? There's adapters for that. Want to do the axles? You guessed it What I'm getting at, is they are easily modded from mild to wild, depending on how deep your pockets are..

If I were you, I'd look for a 94-95 as they have the external slave cylinder (if you go with a 5spd), which is prone to failure. Don't get me wrong, the master/slave cylinder can last a very long time, but it's a common issue with these things. The 95 also has a better rust inhibitor on the frame. Also, no carb to worry about. The carbed ones aren't too bad as long as you like to tinker on them.

If you're tall at all, you'll probably prefer the YJ over the TJ since the dash is further away in a YJ. Only a few inches more room, but it seems like a huge difference with long legs. Trust me..

Sure the leafs can make a little stiffer ride, but pull out the trac and sway bars and it really softens it up a lot and still handles great as long as you realize it's not a sports car and as long as you don't have sagging springs.

I'm on my second YJ and kicked myself for 4 years after selling my first one. When looking for my second jeep, I considered TJs and YJs and ended up going back to a YJ. Price had absolutely nothing to do with it as I was trading a modified truck and had lots of nice TJs offered as an even trade. Eventually I'll pass this YJ down to my son after he and I work on it for a while (he'll be born in October) and I'll then buy another YJ

and as mentioned before.. It IS hip to be square
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My husband got a TJ some time back and I fell in love with it so I had to go out and get my own. I got a 95 YJ. I love. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
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My husband got a TJ some time back and I fell in love with it so I had to go out and get my own. I got a 95 YJ. I love. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
When I brought my YJ home the first thing my 5yr old said is "I want mommies jeep not daddy's" that just made my day.
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When I brought my YJ home the first thing my 5yr old said is "I want mommies jeep not daddy's" that just made my day.
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I initially didn't prefer the yj either. I wanted the so called classic round headlights etc. Cheap parts and simplicity as well as reasonable prices compared to what people were asking for decent CJs swayed me.

For my price range, Rust free TJs were out of my reach, but YJs weren't. And actually were not that hard to find. The squared lights grew on me, the simplified suspension did too. The money I saved over a TJ, and from getting rid of the debt after selling my JK was well worth it. Now I have more to make my YJ exactly what I want, and now I don't worry about denting/off roading my YJ since I own it out right.
Rust free is important to me, I'm an engineer in the Navy so I know what rust can do to steel, finding a rust free YJ might prove to be challenging next to coast so I will most likely need to go inland and I like how you're not worried about a little body damage as I think I would probably feel the same (not the case if I had a fancy new rig)
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YJ wasnt my first choice I wanted a TJ. Love the coil sprung suspension, the interior lay out of the TJ. But I had a buddy getting rid of his project YJ so i picked it up cheap. Im hoping soon to put a 5.5in TJ lift under my YJ cause I want the leaf springs out.
I wonder what the difficulty level and price tag is for a coil spring conversion? sounds like the best of both worlds but not sure how practical it would be or if it's worth it, if there are any YJ owners that have done this conversion, please pipe in on your experience... and what;s the difference in ride comfort/quality/dependability? does it fell "rickety" at all?
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My YJ just kind of fell in my lap when a shop I deal with had a customer wanting to sell it so I bought it. I wasn't looking for a jeep at all. Matter of fact I wasn't even thinking of one. Once I got it back home and drove it I was hooked. I had two friends in high school with old CJ's. One was a '48 and the other a '56. The YJ reminded me of those jeeps from my youth. I fell in love with it. My wife has an 01 TJ. 5.5" lift riding on 33's. Very capable jeep on and off road. Mine is 4.5" on 35's. If I were to buy another jeep, it would either be a CJ or YJ. I just really like the ruggedness of the YJ. When I drive it off road I feel like I can do anything as long as its with me. Amolst like that trusted old dog you never want to go anywhere without. I guess that's it. My jeep is like an old dog, loyal to the end.
How much articulation do you have with a 4.5" lift running 35s and did you need to do any other mods to make that combo work like axle swaps, brakes upgrades, flat fenders, tummy tuck, sye, shafting mod, etc...?
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Jurassic park was my favorite movie as kid, and I fell in love with the yj's. My mom also had a 1991 islander that I used to love sitting in and pretending to drive. Price wasn't a real factor in my choice; I had an xj that I got and built for far cheaper than my yj, but I rolled it and decided it was time to get my dream vehicle. And OUJeep2 was right about people always coming up to talk to you about the yj's, I always have people come up to me and tell me things like they don't make them like they used to, and how good my car looks for being about 24 years old. Yj's are also very easy to work on because there is not a tight engine bay, and very minimal electrical. You'd also be shocked at just how capable they are for being leaf sprung, I've gone places were tj's with the same height lift can't go with everything else being the same.
Capability is also very important to me since I plan on taking pilgrimages to all the major hot spots like the rubicon, moab, etc... nice to know YJs can handle the big stuff.
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They are a great choice with less electronics to fail than a TJ, but remember the age of them. With age comes failure on some of the basic parts, which can be a headache. It will give you more time to really learn the ins and outs of the jeep. The YJ is a VERY simple vehicle to work on with basic mechanical skills needed.

Parts are readily available and there's adapters for everything. If you want to drop a big V8 in it, there's adapters for that. Want to drop a turbo diesel in it? There's adapters. Want to change the tranny? There's adapters for that. Want to do the axles? You guessed it What I'm getting at, is they are easily modded from mild to wild, depending on how deep your pockets are..

If I were you, I'd look for a 94-95 as they have the external slave cylinder (if you go with a 5spd), which is prone to failure. Don't get me wrong, the master/slave cylinder can last a very long time, but it's a common issue with these things. The 95 also has a better rust inhibitor on the frame. Also, no carb to worry about. The carbed ones aren't too bad as long as you like to tinker on them.

If you're tall at all, you'll probably prefer the YJ over the TJ since the dash is further away in a YJ. Only a few inches more room, but it seems like a huge difference with long legs. Trust me..

Sure the leafs can make a little stiffer ride, but pull out the trac and sway bars and it really softens it up a lot and still handles great as long as you realize it's not a sports car and as long as you don't have sagging springs.

I'm on my second YJ and kicked myself for 4 years after selling my first one. When looking for my second jeep, I considered TJs and YJs and ended up going back to a YJ. Price had absolutely nothing to do with it as I was trading a modified truck and had lots of nice TJs offered as an even trade. Eventually I'll pass this YJ down to my son after he and I work on it for a while (he'll be born in October) and I'll then buy another YJ

and as mentioned before.. It IS hip to be square
HA... i am 6'1" so loving the fact that i will fit better in a YJ. I'm pretty mechanically inclined so I'm going to enjoy being able to do most, if not all the work on her myself and I definitely like the idea of less electrical
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Old 08-18-2013, 06:38 AM   #15
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I've only had one jeep, a 93'. My jeep rides nice and smooth. I wouldn't want any smoother.
For the life of me, I don't know why everyone who compares the yj ride to a tj and says it rides way stiffer. Mine doesn't.
I just wish the YJ came with air bags.
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a few other questions...

1. I am noticing A/C is a rare luxury in YJs??? i see they all have the controls for A/C but most don't have vents. Does no vents mean no A/C? (seems logical to me)

2. what years have what problems? which years do i need to stay away from and which years have "all the good stuff"?

3. What's up with the Dana 35 axle? I hear they are straight junk and to find one that someone has swapped it out already or swap it ASAP? what axles are best for YJs? (front and rear)

4. No sway bar / track bar? Will i be fearing for my life taking turns on the highway with no sway bar? (are the leaf springs that much stiffer than coils)? As far as the track bar goes, i guess the leaf springs are enough of a connection between the axles and the frame to keep the axles centered under the frame?

5. What is the difference between the 4.0L and the 4.2L performance wise and life expectancy? Are they workhorses like the straight 6 in the TJs? Are the YJ 4.0s the same engine as the TJ 4.0s???

6. i know this last question has probably been answered on here a ton but... manual or automatic? I much prefer stick over an automatic but have been told stick can be really really tricky on the big obstacles and that I'll want the auto. Other than preference, how reliable are the YJ transmissions and what kind of low range/high range can I expect? enough low range for heavy wheeling? enough high range for highway driving?

THANKS EVERYONE, YOU GUYS/GALS ARE A HUGE HELP IN MY QUEST TO MAKE THE RIGHT PURCHASE!
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1. unless you see the under dash unit, no A/C. I'm not sure just how rare it is because both mine came with it. It's ok if you have the top and windows on, but honestly if it's warm enough to use A/C, just take the top off Plus since it's an under dash unit, it basically just cools your knees haha.

2. I'd say 95 is the best. I believe external slave cylinder (which is a huge plus) started in 94 and the 95 has the better frame protection.

3. D35 isn't much good unless you baby it, then it's still a ticking time bomb lol. Good thing is that you can get a Ford 8.8 from an explorer in a junkyard for cheap and it's a pretty simple swap that will also give you rear disc brakes and keeps same bolt pattern. You can upgrade it and have a real strong rear end.

4. sway bar is personal choice. Most just put quick disconnects for trail riding but I've grown to like the way it handles without them all together. Trac bars were put on to make the YJs "safer" than the CJ, but on a leaf sprung vehicle, they're absolutely useless. They can actually cause your suspension to bind when you're offroad. Also as I stated previously, just know that it's not a sports car and you'll be fine around corners etc..

5. not so sure as I've never had the 4.2, but I do know the 4.0 is a workhorse and as long as it's maintained, it'll be good to you. It's powerful enough for most anything you come up against on the trails.

6. I prefer manual, some prefer auto. I know the AX-15 (manual which comes paired to the 4.0) is pretty stout and can handle the power of a V8. It's gearing is pretty good for all around use. You can easily change the gearing in your axles to suit your needs though.
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if you want the smoother ride of coil springs,a/c and all the other car like comforts then you may prefer a tj or newer model.if you want simple,rugged more classic "real jeep " type features then go with the yj or cj..as far as rust in the older ones,find one down south
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Darcong.

Look at my build thread, there is a link to it in my signature at the bottom of my posts and you will get the answers to the questions you asked me and also a small glimpse into how easy the YJ is to work on, modify, and most importantly make your own.
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Simple answer...easy to modify, much stronger frame than a cj, no as plastic as a tj.
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You mean other than PRICE...... CAPABILITY...... availability of used parts...... LOOKS.....???
This is why I did. It is my holiest jeep too and my 95 YJ is awesome. Easy to work on, parts galore on Craigslist and eBay and junk yard...
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I got my 95 cause my brother owed me a lot of money and I made him give it to me for payment. He is pissed that he doesn't have it any more but is pleased with all the repairs I've had to do to it. He figures if he still had it, it would probably be in a junk yard by now. I've always wanted a jeep and I'm very pleased that I got a yj. Its beat to hell but rust free!!! It had sat in my back yard for years with no top on it and still has no rust. 95 is the way yo go for rust protection, I think the tubs are galvanized also cause I can see(what I think) is the coating on it. So far the rust I've had to deal with was the horn button. And I live in Kansas so rust is common but used parts can b difficult to find around here.
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Look at my build thread, there is a link to it in my signature at the bottom of my posts and you will get the answers to the questions you asked me and also a small glimpse into how easy the YJ is to work on, modify, and most importantly make your own.
@rykemc: I will be catching up on your build today that's for sure! thanks man

And thanks to everyone for your wisdom! please keep it coming, the more I learn, the better choices i can make... knowledge is power!
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if you want the smoother ride of coil springs,a/c and all the other car like comforts then you may prefer a tj or newer model.if you want simple,rugged more classic "real jeep " type features then go with the yj or cj..as far as rust in the older ones,find one down south
I thought you were selling your CJ? guess you couldn't part with it huh? LOL, i feel i will have that problem too in the future... If I owned "Bad Boy", i don't think I could ever part with it. that is one bad mamma jamma!
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I thought you were selling your CJ? guess you couldn't part with it huh? LOL, i feel i will have that problem too in the future... If I owned "Bad Boy", i don't think I could ever part with it. that is one bad mamma jamma!
all of mine are always for sell so I can finance building more..my wife and I just enjoy building jeeps as well as harleys..I have owned a lot of badass choppers and jeeps.I try to build each one better than the one before and no doubt badboy accomplished that for me..he will be hard to beat in my eyes but we will try..offhand I can't think of what I would change but if I still have him when it gets cold I may take a hardtop and cut it into a halfcab for it
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1. unless you see the under dash unit, no A/C. I'm not sure just how rare it is because both mine came with it. It's ok if you have the top and windows on, but honestly if it's warm enough to use A/C, just take the top off Plus since it's an under dash unit, it basically just cools your knees haha.

2. I'd say 95 is the best. I believe external slave cylinder (which is a huge plus) started in 94 and the 95 has the better frame protection.

3. D35 isn't much good unless you baby it, then it's still a ticking time bomb lol. Good thing is that you can get a Ford 8.8 from an explorer in a junkyard for cheap and it's a pretty simple swap that will also give you rear disc brakes and keeps same bolt pattern. You can upgrade it and have a real strong rear end.

4. sway bar is personal choice. Most just put quick disconnects for trail riding but I've grown to like the way it handles without them all together. Trac bars were put on to make the YJs "safer" than the CJ, but on a leaf sprung vehicle, they're absolutely useless. They can actually cause your suspension to bind when you're offroad. Also as I stated previously, just know that it's not a sports car and you'll be fine around corners etc..

5. not so sure as I've never had the 4.2, but I do know the 4.0 is a workhorse and as long as it's maintained, it'll be good to you. It's powerful enough for most anything you come up against on the trails.

6. I prefer manual, some prefer auto. I know the AX-15 (manual which comes paired to the 4.0) is pretty stout and can handle the power of a V8. It's gearing is pretty good for all around use. You can easily change the gearing in your axles to suit your needs though.
Just going to add on to the wise words of JD95YJ. The main difference between the 4.2 and 4.0 is horsepower and carb vs fuel injection. Now the 4.2l has a ton of low end torque and makes your jeep feel like a tractor which is incredible for off road, has a crappy carb that is easy to replace, but not a ton of horsepower so very bad highway driving. The 4.0 on the otherhand is a good balance between offroad and on road, but not as much low end torque. I can idle up big hills without giving my car throttle with my 4.2l, my friend with a 94 4.0l can't without giving it throttle. The 4.0 also gets a little better gas milage. Both are very dependable as long as they are maintained well. My 4.2l has 240000 miles on it without a rebuild and is still running great, my old xj had 260000 miles on it without a rebuild and it was also very strong. Also, engine swaping is very easy in yj's, when my motor dies, I'll just swap in a v8 I have and keep her going. Also, the D30 axle is a good axle as long as you stay under 33" tires. The D35 is not so good, I broke it once I put 31"s on....
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What ever you chose, go with Raptor Bedliner. Best product I have found as a spray on. Amazon has deals on it. Prep well, and you won't be sorry. Clean your Jeep with a hose. Best move I have made so far. Good luck bud.
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5. What is the difference between the 4.0L and the 4.2L performance wise and life expectancy? Are they workhorses like the straight 6 in the TJs? Are the YJ 4.0s the same engine as the TJ 4.0s???

6. i know this last question has probably been answered on here a ton but... manual or automatic? I much prefer stick over an automatic but have been told stick can be really really tricky on the big obstacles and that I'll want the auto. Other than preference, how reliable are the YJ transmissions and what kind of low range/high range can I expect? enough low range for heavy wheeling? enough high range for highway driving?

THANKS EVERYONE, YOU GUYS/GALS ARE A HUGE HELP IN MY QUEST TO MAKE THE RIGHT PURCHASE!
5. Don't discount the little 4-banger either! It is capable of tugging a lot with the right gearing! I have 4.88 gears on 33s with terralow gears in the transfer case and I was able to yank a ramcharger mud truck stuck in mud over the axles! Put it in 4 low and turned on my lockers and rolled it out.

6. I have the 5 speed and I will admit I stalled it many times in 4hi when off roading but on serious obstacles that require 4lo you will have to try pretty hard to get it to stall. (Background: for the last 6 years I drove nothing but a 5 speed so im no newbie to a clutch)
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My YJ was actually given to me by my dad. He bought the 95 almost brand new. I love my YJ BECAUSE of the square headlights, the stiff leafs, and the all around square body. it, in my opinion, defines what a wrangler should look and feel like. Weahter your using it for daily and keep it all dressed up, or ride it hard and put it up wet at the end of the day.

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