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Old 08-08-2006, 07:53 PM   #1
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YJ Starter/Solenoid advice

So the YJ failed to start today after work. Turn the key and all the normal lights and buzzers come on, but No Crank.........nuttin. Battery is good, like I said lights work, radio works...etc, I even hooked up a portable jumper just to be sure. I checked codes and got 47 which is low voltage.....but I already ruled that out.

I'm reading Haynes and I think it's the Solenoid that is the problem, This is new territory for me (as most things are when they go wrong the 1st time).

Haynes says could be Bosch, Mitsubishi or Motocraft...........?...But does not give explination as to which years/models........Mines 94' 2.5l Anyone know?

Like I said...new territory for me, Anything I need to know before I crawl under there and start looking for this thing?...which is apparently somewhere near the bellhousing and "may" be tough to get at?

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Old 08-08-2006, 09:06 PM   #2
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It should be attached to the starter. quick test, tap the solenoid with a wrench, hammer or something hard, and try to start it. If it lets go, and starts, you probably have a corroded solenoid. if that doesn't get it, take that starter to a auto parts store and get it tested.

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Old 08-08-2006, 10:57 PM   #3
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I agree. I have had many solenoids lock on me. often they give some warning, like a quick no start, then start etc... let me know how it goes, because mine makes a bad whinning or grinding noise immediatley after a start sometimes. I was told the bendicks(spelling?) or starter, and told it was difficult to remove maybe even taking a special tool. I've replaced starters before and it was an very easy job (couple of bolts). don't know if the machanic was looking for an extra few bucks or not...
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Old 08-09-2006, 07:14 AM   #4
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Verified voltage to the solenoid.
Banged on it with a hammer.......no luck.

Need to figure out how to extract it and take to auto parts.
Any tips on extracting before I crawl back under there and start turning bolts?

Thanks All.
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Should be a simple operation. Two bolts on the front that hold it on and one for the wire. It is a little heavy so don't drop it on your head while you are under there.
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I agree. I have had many solenoids lock on me. often they give some warning, like a quick no start, then start etc... let me know how it goes, because mine makes a bad whinning or grinding noise immediatley after a start sometimes.
Has your starter been replaced before?
I had a freind pull info from ALLDATA and there is a Service Bulletin for 86-94Wranglers w/ 2.5L that the origional starters are no longer available, they have been replaced with an "Improved Starter which does not require the .045 inch shim (used with origional starter), if not removed causes excessive noise or starter pinion to hang up in the ring gear and not release...."

As for mine, I picked up the neccessary Star Sockets, but ran into trouble when one bolt will not budge, one came right out, other.............did not. I soaked with PB and will try again in the AM.
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Has your starter been replaced before?
I had a freind pull info from ALLDATA and there is a Service Bulletin for 86-94Wranglers w/ 2.5L that the origional starters are no longer available, they have been replaced with an "Improved Starter which does not require the .045 inch shim (used with origional starter), if not removed causes excessive noise or starter pinion to hang up in the ring gear and not release...."

As for mine, I picked up the neccessary Star Sockets, but ran into trouble when one bolt will not budge, one came right out, other.............did not. I soaked with PB and will try again in the AM.
I baught it used, i have no idea... but your description sounds a lopt like what is happening... i will check it out thanks. is it hard to find these starters? the local auto parts said they had one for me... i assume it would be correct...?
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I baught it used, i have no idea... but your description sounds a lopt like what is happening... i will check it out thanks. is it hard to find these starters? the local auto parts said they had one for me... i assume it would be correct...?
No not hard to find, parts store will have them. PLEASE NOTE: The above information is for NEW Starters not Remanufactured, if replaced with Reman the Shim DOES need to be used.....if its not or not in there properly you will get grinding/noise.

So for your situation, not knowing what prev done, You could have a New Starter installed improperly With the Shim.....or an OLD Without it. (or something else all together...)

As for mine, I got it out this AM, verified it was dead at the auto parts store, bought a Remanufactured unit and installed it. Working Good Now!
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awesome.. thanks for the tips I am going to just crawl under and take a look. Glad to hear you are happy Jeeping once again.

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