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Old 02-01-2011, 09:04 AM   #31
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I do agree. But I don't have the equipment needed to build up the YJ. That's what I've been trying to say. So the most I can do on it is a lift and tires. I can't play with the axles because I don't have a welder

But for now, I think you guys persuaded me to keep my YJ. Having a Jeep loan at this age would suck.. and although it'd be nice to have a newer Jeep, I like being able to show people how much work I've put into it so far.

If you guys could give me ideas about the axles, that'd be appreciated too.

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Buy the tools you need with the money that would have gone to your monthly payment. As for the axles ford 8.8 under $250 most yards. For the front dana 30 find a YJ with 4.11 or have the gears changed. You can also put 1 pc shaft in the passenger side if you want to get gone with the vac system. Have to add a seal but not a big deal if your getting gear change.

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Alright sounds good. I guess I'll hold off on the 8.8 until I find that I really NEED lockers. My friend and I were going to look into a club next year so we can enjoy Jeeping with other people.

My biggest concern right now then is the gearing. I want to put a 3.5 inch black diamond lift on with 32s, but with 3.07 gears, i don't know if that's a good idea.

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For 32's ideal gearing should be 4.11's
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I think it would be fine for the time being, you have to remember that when your in low your 2.72 times that. We run a 4.56 on a 33 but its all preference
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lol im not worried about low gear though. I'm worried about streetability. If I give it hell, will I still hit 5th gear on the high way? Can the Dana 35 handle 32s? My cousin has a 97 TJ with a 4 inch lift, one inch body lift, Ford 8.8 in the rear, and 33s all around. When he goes wheeling, he really goes hard on his jeep. He brought his Jeep in for an alignment and they said they wouldn't do it. They declared his Jeep not street safe because his whole front end was beat to crap lol. With 33's he kept having to replace his front wheel hub bearings. So I'm worried about going with 32s.
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You might end up with a 4 speed until you swap gears....as far as strength goes I am on the wrong side of the Dana 35 argument. Dad ran one for 13 years in his YJ with a detroit locker and 33's and never hurt a damn thing....my bro in law has the jeep now and its still going strong. My last YJ was setup the same way and I never had a problem either. I understand some are having issues with um, but the way I see it they are prolly where they don't need to be in the first place
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be proud of what you have and appreciate the fact you dont have a note, im only 16 so the age thing your throwing out there is BS. nothing is wrong with yjs, dont try to be something ur not and be happy with what u got
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87 yj here..37 irocs -i6-d35 -3.07 im not complaining,,, just got to keep saving for the new parts ,after all it took me 43 yrs to get a paid for jeep
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Lift kit $600ish,lol, sorry but if my lift kits for my TJ cost $600 I'd be laughing. Jeeping can be a VERY expensive hobby, if I were you I would keep the YJ. Do the repairs that are needed to keep it safe, forget all the mods you are "DREAMING" about because after you throw bondo at something it really isn't worth anything, get out of highschool, go to college and finally when you start making some real money of your own go severely into debt (like most of us are) building your Jeep. At least then you should have a steady paycheck you will be able to see get gobbled up by bills and payments.
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lol im not worried about low gear though. I'm worried about streetability. If I give it hell, will I still hit 5th gear on the high way? Can the Dana 35 handle 32s? My cousin has a 97 TJ with a 4 inch lift, one inch body lift, Ford 8.8 in the rear, and 33s all around. When he goes wheeling, he really goes hard on his jeep. He brought his Jeep in for an alignment and they said they wouldn't do it. They declared his Jeep not street safe because his whole front end was beat to crap lol. With 33's he kept having to replace his front wheel hub bearings. So I'm worried about going with 32s.
Thats just a fact of life with unit bearings, like I said before Jeepin ain't cheap.
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Lol okay so I'll be good for now with my gears. And um fmhyj what are you talking about? I dont talk bs
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Figure out what you are going to be paying monthly for the TJ. There are several online loan calculators you can use. Call you insurance company and ask how much the insurance is going to cost. Add those two together. Take out the half payment your mom is going to make.

Now you have a good solid number to work with. I suspect it's going to be in the $200+ per month range. Start putting that aside right now before you buy the TJ. Get a savings account at the bank and deposit the money every month. In a year you have $2400. In two you have $4800.

Use that money to upgrade your YJ. And then if you have a month where you have to fix something that broke, you won't mess up your credit because you missed payment.

It's much better to pay yourself than pay a bank note on a car. You will be a slave to that loan. Avoid it at all costs.

You want a TJ? Make a plan to pay yourself instead of the lender and then trade your YJ and pay cash for the TJ. There is nothing like paying cash for a car and walking away with a clear title and no payment.

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Get past college before you start taking on loans for Jeeps or cars. It will make a world of difference.
Best financially sound advice IMO. Wait until after college, or until you've got all the money saved up before you go and buy another one. You'll enjoy the new jeep a lot more not having a huge car payment, or having to split it with your mom. Bird in hand is better than two in the bush.
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Lol thanks guys for the advice! I'm sticking with my YJ for now. Just wish I had that 4800 bucks to spend right now ;D
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With your school... Well, been there, done that, got a box full of T's, and f..k them all with their BMW, Rovers, and other sh..t! It's your life not theirs, they're not paying your bills so if they happen to disagree with you on you choice of a vehicle to drive - hough sh..t! All this race after being cool will do is will get you in deeeeeep financial trouble that will expend at the rate you can not imagine. Keeping up with Johns' is a loosing battle. I think that was THE ISSUE here, not buying a new Jeep. Good choice, btw

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Lol okay so I'll be good for now with my gears. And um fmhyj what are you talking about? I dont talk bs
im sayin dont give a crap what people think about ur yj. thats bs cause ur hole age and thats the reason u want that rubi to impress and stuff cause im 16 and proud of my yj
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You should deff keep the YJ, im 17 in high school and ive been building my jeep since i was 15 when i baught it. See how much money your parents were going to give you for the new jeep and then talk to them into giving you that money for your YJ. You dont need lockers, from what i can see in the pic(no offence) it could use some other upgrades before you should worry about trails that need lockers
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On top of the money learning to wheel in a no locker skinny tire YJ will make you a bad a** on the trail when you get that rubi later when you can afford it.
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"Paid For" or "Paid in Cash" is always better.....I would never want to finance any vehicle and every vehicle I have bought in the past 10 years has been in cash....not by making allot- but depositing my "car payment" into a savings account and then buying the vehicle outright...... never finance!

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I do agree. But I don't have the equipment needed to build up the YJ. That's what I've been trying to say. So the most I can do on it is a lift and tires. I can't play with the axles because I don't have a welder

But for now, I think you guys persuaded me to keep my YJ. Having a Jeep loan at this age would suck.. and although it'd be nice to have a newer Jeep, I like being able to show people how much work I've put into it so far.

to be honest with you , if you learn to drive it properly that will get you by for a while, I live in colorado, my family, dad, drandparents, great grandparents all grew up in the mountains and all of them drove on jeep trails that are closed nowadays and all they had were stock jeeps, the older crowd has alot to teach us about old school 4 wheelin, 6000lb winches and 4 cylinders were pretty standard and if they could get by with it you can to, my grandpa used to drive the black bear and others in colorado with above mentoned jeeps with no prob, and these guys are right, its always a work in progress thats whats fun, talk to other jeepers and maybe they can help, there is a guy on craigslist that builds 8.8 rear ends for 450 dollars ready to go, im a master mechanic and im buyin one cause thats cheap and not worth me taken the time, if you look around you can probably find deals like that too. Remember a real pretty jeep like the ones at your school probably are afraid to get dirty and banged up,make sure you drive past them and wave when they stop at that treacherous trail. college is around the corner and you will be spendin your money on girls, parties and drivin with the top down! good luck

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im sayin dont give a crap what people think about ur yj. thats bs cause ur hole age and thats the reason u want that rubi to impress and stuff cause im 16 and proud of my yj
Um don't talk. I'm tolerant of people, but when a kid has the nerve to tell me that it's bs, thats where I draw the line. I don't want a rubi to impress people. Yeah I'm a bit jealous that most kids in my school at least have a decent paint job on their car, but mines coming soon enough. I want a rubi because I like them. They have everything I want in one package. I've wanted a jeep since I can remember when my dad told me stories Bout his CJs. I'm 17, I'm proud of my YJ, and I'm going to stand up for myself when someone disrespects me. So back off please I don't want anymore trouble.
I'm sorry everyone, I'm defensive due to past experiences.
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You should deff keep the YJ, im 17 in high school and ive been building my jeep since i was 15 when i baught it. See how much money your parents were going to give you for the new jeep and then talk to them into giving you that money for your YJ. You dont need lockers, from what i can see in the pic(no offence) it could use some other upgrades before you should worry about trails that need lockers
Oh I know lol. I don't have my most recent pics up there though. It's mechanically sound, And ready for tires and a lift as soon as the money comes this spring/summer. Por as well. I'll never be done with por lol. But the frames in great shape as is everything else under there. So I think I'm all set. I redid my interior first since it's winter. So in the spring is when the real fun begins.

But as for lockers, I think it's more of a comfort thing just so I know that I have them if I need them. But I highly doubt I'm going to be doing trails anytime soon that require a locker. Jeeps are known for their 4x4 capabilities
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On top of the money learning to wheel in a no locker skinny tire YJ will make you a bad a** on the trail when you get that rubi later when you can afford it.
Lol my thoughts exactly. A good driver with no lockers can be more effective than a bad driver in a rubi
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Man do what I do. Invest into the YJ when you can. Add to it little by little and eventually youll surpas that rubi. Look for deals on the things you want until you find what you want for how much you can spend. For example I'm doing a Chevy 350 swap and 7--r4 tranny. I waited to find a deal picked up both for 200 bucks together. I just had to wait for my neighbor to get sick of having them taking up space and not having a use for them. The things you want will come you just have to be patient. And by the way I'm only 19. But my build is going to take off like a rocket soon. The Navy pays well. And I have 28 days till I start bringing in the doe...to bad itll be gone just as fast as I bring it in. Also stop your damn bickering. Its just ridiculous to argue on the internet with people you barely know. Just ignore the comments from him.
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Hey man, I'm glad to hear that you're sticking with the YJ! You're gonna love that jeep. I know it sucks to drive a beater to school when IT SEEMS that everyone else is driving $50,000 cars. Realize that for the ten kids driving uber cars, there's probably 80 kids driving regular beater cars.
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Man do what I do. Invest into the YJ when you can. Add to it little by little and eventually youll surpas that rubi. Look for deals on the things you want until you find what you want for how much you can spend. For example I'm doing a Chevy 350 swap and 7--r4 tranny. I waited to find a deal picked up both for 200 bucks together. I just had to wait for my neighbor to get sick of having them taking up space and not having a use for them. The things you want will come you just have to be patient. And by the way I'm only 19. But my build is going to take off like a rocket soon. The Navy pays well. And I have 28 days till I start bringing in the doe...to bad itll be gone just as fast as I bring it in. Also stop your damn bickering. Its just ridiculous to argue on the internet with people you barely know. Just ignore the comments from him.
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Thanks man! And hahaha you're probably right, but us kids only see the nice cars that pull I'm and out
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Thanks man! And hahaha you're probably right, but us kids only see the nice cars that pull I'm and out
Ironically enough last night I was pulling those BMWs and Mercedes' and all kind of other crap out of ditches with my 2.5 95 YJ. I came to realize that those $50K piles of nice looking and packed with all kind of stuff sh..t will not necessarily get you back home safely. You should have seen people's faces seeing me being practically the only none-utility vehicle moving while everybody else had nothing more to resort to but a shovel (if that even helped at all). YJ is a great piece of machinery. Be proud and screw the all
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Ironically enough last night I was pulling those BMWs and Mercedes' and all kind of other crap out of ditches with my 2.5 95 YJ. I came to realize that those $50K piles of nice looking and packed with all kind of stuff sh..t will not necessarily get you back home safely. You should have seen people's faces seeing me being practically the only none-utility vehicle moving while everybody else had nothing more to resort to but a shovel (if that even helped at all). YJ is a great piece of machinery. Be proud and screw the all
Lol that's awesome. I definitely am proud of my YJ it has been through our blizzards up here in CT and it goes through the snow great even with the street tires! During one storm, there was one poor soul stuck on a hill which held up a ton of cars. I didn't have a tow rope or anything to help him so I sadly had to pass him and all the other cars. Btw, is it normal for a Toyota prius to ride your rear end in a snow storm? Because this prius was like right on my tail. Then came a hill and a ford explorer that spun out on it. Again, no tow rope. So I had to pass him. After I passed him and got up the hill, I looked behind me and no more prius lol. And now I carry a tow chain on me
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If I may recommend changing it to a rope or something of that nature unless of course you're planning on yanking something out of the dude you're trying to help Last night I used 10mm nylon rope folded 4 times to get some lady out of a ditch and had to actually yank her out 'coz pulling wasn't working, so we ended up getting her out but ripped the rope ones. I'll post some videos later of my trips last night in Illinois local forum (check my profile for the posts with it if you want) after I'm done cleaning it up. I was in haven Clean style mudding

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