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Old 09-19-2010, 08:11 PM   #1
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This Willys has been at the same place for 2 months. The guy was originally asking $8,000 then he dropped the price to $5000 two weeks ago Now he has "make offer" on the windshield. The odometer reads 6806, but I assume its 106,806 miles maybe 206,806 but I don't think so. It runs and seems in pretty good shape.
What do you guys think?
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:18 PM   #2
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That thing is sweet whats it got in it for a motor?

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Old 09-19-2010, 08:26 PM   #3
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Cool old CJ-5, NADA average retail is $9750 so his price is not bad if Jeep runs good.
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Old 09-19-2010, 08:43 PM   #4
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Cool But it's not a truck and dial 911 lol jeep looks to be in good shape
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Old 09-19-2010, 09:37 PM   #5
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Nice find!

I own (with my brother) a 1960 CJ5, so I watch the prices. I'm not seeing anyone get close to $8 for them, with a couple of exceptions of ultra-restored things. Guess we'll just have to keep ours.

Here's an example of an "ultra-restored" (or maybe way over restored) CJ. I put this one on my blog months ago. It was selling for about $35k. I think that's how NADA gets it's high price point.

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nice find!!
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the dial 911 decal is upside down.
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no, you put the dial 911 sticker on so that when you put your jeep on it's lid, the sticker reads correctly.
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no, you put the dial 911 sticker on so that when you put your jeep on it's lid, the sticker reads correctly.
Ok got it, I thought maybe you were keeping score.
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So I should probably jump on this opportunity pronto then? I was thinking about restoring it if I do get it. I don't know how to restore it though, maybe back to 911 originality? I also like the outlet on the drivers side!
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So I should probably jump on this opportunity pronto then? I was thinking about restoring it if I do get it. I don't know how to restore it though, maybe back to 911 originality? I also like the outlet on the drivers side!
911 is not orignal, 1961 was way before we had that.
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911 is not orignal, 1961 was way before we had that.
ok, I was thinking I might like the old army style better anyways.... or just give it a new paint job (maybe something dark) and fix up the interior.
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Old 09-22-2010, 10:19 PM   #14
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I'm not very familiar with the CJ's though, does anybody any "common" issues or concerns that I should be thinking about?
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It has pre-saginaw steering...probably a 4 cylinder (134), no power steering or brakes (drums all around)...check the frame for cracks and twists. Early cj's had open c-channel frame rails...lots of twist and flex. They are simple to work on. Front axle is probably a dana 25 (or 27) and has closed knuckles up front (pain in the a$$). Rear is probably a dana 44 offset diff axle with a dana 18 transfer case. You won't go fast, but you'll be cool going slow (most likely a 3 speed). Most parts are interchangeable for Pre 1971 cj5's. Just so you know, 1972-75 parts won't work, and neither will 1976 and up.

If it is a 4 banger, try to go $4000....it is in good shape according to the pics, but you never know. Nice thing is that it still has the correct seats, which is hard to find and desirable. Just my info. to help you along. I have a 1972 cj5, which is what they call an "intermediate". Parts are interchangeable only for the years 1972-1975 for me, and certain ones are hard to find (when AMC was changing the line from Kaiser-era).

Check out Earlycj5.com. I am a member there also. Nothing but info. on pre 1976 cj5's.
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It has pre-saginaw steering...probably a 4 cylinder (134), no power steering or brakes (drums all around)...check the frame for cracks and twists. Early cj's had open c-channel frame rails...lots of twist and flex. They are simple to work on. Front axle is probably a dana 25 (or 27) and has closed knuckles up front (pain in the a$$). Rear is probably a dana 44 offset diff axle with a dana 18 transfer case. You won't go fast, but you'll be cool going slow (most likely a 3 speed). Most parts are interchangeable for Pre 1971 cj5's. Just so you know, 1972-75 parts won't work, and neither will 1976 and up.

If it is a 4 banger, try to go $4000....it is in good shape according to the pics, but you never know. Nice thing is that it still has the correct seats, which is hard to find and desirable. Just my info. to help you along. I have a 1972 cj5, which is what they call an "intermediate". Parts are interchangeable only for the years 1972-1975 for me, and certain ones are hard to find (when AMC was changing the line from Kaiser-era).

Check out Earlycj5.com. I am a member there also. Nothing but info. on pre 1976 cj5's.
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No problem...got a soft spot for 5's. In my opinion, they are what made Jeep what it is today...Longest production of any jeep model-says alot about a vehicle.
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I had a 59 Willys CJ5. It had a 4 cyl 75 HP flathead engine (the Hurricane). Was the most powerful 4cyl engine on the market when it came out - you may have that too.

The windshield wipers ran off a vacuum line, so if you went up a steep hill they would slow down and stop - not a problem though, they had a handle on the inside that used to keep them going.

Did not have any synchros in the transmission, so you had to know when to shift or you would have to stop and start over. Taught me how to drive properly. Top speed of about 45 mph.

In 4 Low, it would pull anything. Once pulled a truck out of a ditch back onto the highway with it. Loved it; wish I still had it. If I could get one and restore it I would.
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911 was a Jeep model?

Are you sure it wasn't used as a police vehicle?
If it was, then 206K miles is highly plausible, and so is 306K My DJ racked up over 450K delivering mail from 1971 to 2002...

It also may have had a few improvements made to it... Police departments haven't been in the business of "hotrodding" their vehicles for quite a few years, but that CJ goes back that far, so it's possible... It's also possible that the engine is considerably newer than the Jeep. Government vehicles get engine swaps a LOT more often than normal ones do... My '71 DJ had the original 4 CYL traded out for a 232 I6 in the late 70's... The engine is from a passenger vehicle (best guess is gremlin, roadrunner, or something... based on numbers, rocker arms, and a few other hints she's given up over the years...) and the 4 cyl mounts wouldn't fit so they welded the original 4 cyl arms to the frame

something to consider... If it was a "fleet" vehicle, it may have more mileage than you think, but might also have been well maintained...
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Other possibility is that a rural Fire dept or Police dept owned the vehicle (updated the 911 stickers later) and the vehicle has little mileage. A local FD near me sold a 1960 vintage 4 x 4 Dodge truck a couple of years ago with less than 18000 miles on the odo. It could have been used to patrol local trails. Never know until you search the title/history. It looks clean with little body issues from the pics. ask and let us know that you find.
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This Willys has been at the same place for 2 months. The guy was originally asking $8,000 then he dropped the price to $5000 two weeks ago Now he has "make offer" on the windshield. The odometer reads 6806, but I assume its 106,806 miles maybe 206,806 but I don't think so. It runs and seems in pretty good shape.
What do you guys think?
so did you get it? still for sale?

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