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Old 08-24-2014, 05:06 PM   #1
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Remembering the old M-151 Jeeps

After owning my TJ and getting 11 MPG, with AC and lockers, I can't help but think back on the days gone by with the old M-151 Jeeps.

Had 4WD, handles on all 4 corners so a couple o' GI's could pick this thing up off the ground, the 2-45 air conditioning option ( 2 windows open, 45 miles per hour ) crummy heater, 4 cylinder 65 horsepower engine held together with chicken wire and bubble gum. You'd start her up with a foot starter and unlocking the Series 200 padlock from the hard plastic steering wheel.

But we'd load her up and hook up an old trailer and cram 4 guys into the Heep. One tankful and a five gallon can of Mogas and we'd be good for a 500 + mile patrol. They were old as dirt but the last thing you'd worry about was if the old girl would let you down in the field cause they never would. And if they ever did, well, see the paragraph above about the bubble gum.

No, it wasn't refined , didn't have seat heaters or dual zone climate control, or any of that crap. No GPS so you figured out your route and location with six digit map coordinates and a grease pencil scribbling on the windshield. It did have a helluva radio, though. And every time you pulled the drain plug that stuff that came out was like black molasses. But that POS was always there for us.

I wished I had taken a picture of the old girl but hell, it's too late now. I transitioned to the HUMMER after I got stateside and within the first month, my HUMMER died while I was parked in the parking lot of the PX on a Top Secret mission (Pop Tarts and Pepsi for the Captain) (can't fix an ECU with chicken wire!) talk about embarrassing!

Those old Jeeps would go anywhere, Roads, trails, a mountain side, and they weren't so massively ginormous like the HUMMER so they could fit inside those old mineshafts and tunnels that are spread all over Western Europe.

My hats off to the Jeep.
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Old 08-24-2014, 11:03 PM   #2
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*well said*

my own adventures Du Jeep began circa 1961 with a 1945 CJ2.mil surplus.
Had the same A/C "2-45", power steering courtesy Armstrong, and could drive thru an amazing variety of small places & earth berm culverts otherwise accessible only to VW Beetles.

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That's the reason I have an old Jeep today. It is a wagon but still very simple. I have built it but kept it stupid simple. Roll up windows, no A/C, no computers of any kind. I also have a JKUR but, it really doesn't compare as far as I am concerned ! Got to love the old iron
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re: "the 2-45 air conditioning option ( 2 windows open, 45 miles per hour ) crummy heater,"

just realized there WEREN'T any windows in the old CJ2.....until the canvas top/doors were attached....

and the 'heater' was theoretical at best....

Once I stuck my hand down to see if the thing was actually 'working'....and got the end of my finger smacked by the fan blade. Fortunately it was so slow moving & blunt there was no open skin wound. However, there was so much torque in the motor the end of that finger was numb for months!!! And even in the relatively arid SW Idaho climate a windscreen wiper rag was mandatory, as 'defroster/defogger' was another theory whose time had not yet come.
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Ya, the good ole' Mutt!

They were in service longer than any other Jeep model.

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There are two of these I see out here now and then. They are great to see in the sand dunes.
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Until about Nov of last year, I had a Model A Ford Roadster. Read somewhere that the Jeeps made by Ford for WWII used the same 4 cyl block as the Model A and Model B 4 cyl's. Anyone know if this is true or just an old Ford legend?
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Wheeled a m151 in Germany for 84 winter Reforger. Putt an estimated 2000 miles sittin on that canvas cushin. Rag top and plywood halfdoors. Froze my ass off. Spent 90% offroad in fields and woods. Was in 7th heaven,loved every minute. Bout a week after returning to base had to park it next to the rail load depot. Jeeps were being phased out. Going to the scrap yard. Truly a sad day for me and the military in general.

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My hats off to the Jeep.
But is was a Ford, not a Jeep.
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But is was a Ford, not a Jeep.
Dude, it was the Army, ok? Grenades and howitzers... Close enough for government work is good enough! It wasn't NASA or brain surgery.
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Dude, it was the Army, ok? Grenades and howitzers... Close enough for government work is good enough! It wasn't NASA or brain surgery.
Come on now. We have TJ owners here calling JKs not real Jeeps, let alone the travesty (to the purists) that is the JKU (probably the best selling "Jeep" ever) To call a semi-monocoque (not body on frame), fully independent suspension, Ford made vehicle a Jeep might just be the ultimate heresy around these parts!
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Come on now. We have TJ owners here calling JKs not real Jeeps, let alone the travesty (to the purists) that is the JKU (probably the best selling "Jeep" ever) To call a semi-monocoque (not body on frame), fully independent suspension, Ford made vehicle a Jeep might just be the ultimate heresy around these parts!
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Ya, IMO the M-151 was that last military "Jeep" even though it had many features associated with non-Jeeps like IFS and uni-body construction (things they are considering for the next Wrangler model btw). Heck, even the grill slats were sideways because there was a trademark on the vertical 7-slot pattern.

I guess the reason we still think of it as a Jeep was its size and that it was so open and usually only had a canvas top. Its definitely not a HMMWV.
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FYI there is confusion being caused by something that has been established:

jeep (lowercase j) refers to a rough and tumble, rugged, off road 4x4 vehicle, both military and civilian owned. These can be made by ford, GMC, Willy's Overland, Bantam...(you get the point)

Jeep (upper case J) is a company that makes jeeps along with other automobiles such as SUVs.

Examples: a Tj is a jeep made by Jeep.

The M-151 is a jeep designed by Ford and built by kaiser or AM general corps.

Semantics, I know...sorry
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True, the name Jeep was trademarked by the Willys-Overland company shortly after WWII.

The term "jeep" has been used by military folks throughout the years for many purposes.
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Alas, the m151 was deemed unsafe for civilian use and surplus units had to be de-militarized by being cut in half. A few escaped, but they are very few and far between.
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I was stationed on Wake Island at the Coast Guard loran A station in 65-66. I inherited an old military jeep that was pretty much a ball of rust.

I can't remember the year or model but it had the F-head motor. Ripped off the remaining sheet metal and built a replica body out of plywood. She ran great and would plow through axle-deep soft sand with ease. Head lights were gone so I strapped a couple of flashlights on the fenders for night use. Happy memories.
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They didn't all get cut up. This is my '67- 2N 9283. I take it to some local 3 gun matches.

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They didn't all get cut up. This is my '67- 2N 9283. I take it to some local 3 gun matches.

Het wait a minute, I see 4 guns there!

Just kidding, nice rig
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Ha ha! Good point!

I've heard Vets talk about how these are almost indestructible and I'd believe it. I've owned this M151 12 years as of last month and the only thing I've had to do is oil change, top off tranny lube, a set of batteries, and put gas in it. The motor starts whether the temp is 0 degrees or 100, and it purrs like a small house cat. (It's only 72 HP, so I think that's a reasonable analogy.)
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Aw yes, I remember them well. We had two weeks of training on all of the vehicles. One week for the M151 and the rest of the time on the rest.
You can go up a hill and down a hill. Just don't go around the hill. M151A1 you could go around the hill if careful.
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They also had the best ride of all the jeeps. They made bumps go away.
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jeep - Jeep

Reminds me of the Springfield M14 and Springfield Armory M1A controversy.

Essentially a company registering a Army Products name and selling to public a very similar product and riding on that previous products laurels.

Not that Jeep's are terrible or anything but its the same kind of relationship.
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I'm not so sure I like the word "OLD" when referring to an M151 Jeep. I put a lot of mile on those Jeeps. They weren't the safest thing to drive but when you haven't many choices what the hell.
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I remember my first MUTT ride... Germany, 1973, audubon, steel throttle handle pulled all the way out of the left front dash causing the accelerator to mechanically move totally against the firewall, scart the shit out of me as I knew I was gonna die before making it to see one actual month in-country. The Staff Sergeant driving the thing screamed at me between the wind and the whine of that lil fourbanger I knew anytime it would blow up if we didn't suddenly lose control and scatter my body parts to here and there... There are many other stories I could come up with regarding these mechanical mules. But Mustangs they were NOT!
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I had a lot of fun in the M-151. One of my favorite pics from my service time was in the ultimate patrol car. Jungle or swamp, nothing stopped it and you could take the top down. Really miss that thing.
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Had 2 m151's that we utilized for minor off road activities, in the early 90's. Goodtimes indeed


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I was in the 82nd Airborne from 79 to 83 and one time my unit went to Fort Irwin for a big exercise. I was Advanced party and we my jeep was loaded on a C 141 and we went to some air force base by Riverside I think.
Thought I was cooler than crap sitting in my jeep while we flew to this base.
Any how, me and this captain had to drive from the Air Force Base to Fort Irwin about two and a half hours and a lot of that was on the LA freeways while towing a trailer. I was scared Shi*tless, the jeeps wandering all over the place and he screaming at me to "just drive like an asshole because that's how everyone else is driving".
I can laugh about it now. Good times....
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I grew up driving a M151 its the first thing I ever learned to drive and its also where i learned to drive a stick. I was my ATV i drove it all over the farm and when i broke it I had to fix it. I think its where i got my love for the jeep. I remember one time running it so hot i could hear the valves chattering, i let it cool off filled it with water and keep on running it. We only had one running one but had two of the ambulance models and one that was still cut in half sitting in a field, it was my parts jeep. I dont know whats happened to it now I grew up and moved away last time i saw it was in a pasture sitting against a wood line going to waste, it was my uncles and he wouldnt sell it to me, although i think he finally sold the whole lot of them to someone. I wish I had some pics of the old girl...

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