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Old 12-20-2011, 07:01 PM   #31
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More Bill Mauldin cartoons #2...

I am sorry but the captions didn't come out with the cartoons.

The first cartoon's captions is, "Don't startle him Joe, it looks almost full."

The second cartoon's caption is, "Joe, I feel I am a fugitive of the 'Law of Averages'."
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Old 12-21-2011, 08:59 PM   #32
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Great post, thank you for all the great info! the history is fantastic.
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Thanks for the kind words! I hope you and "yours" have a fantastic Christmas!!

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Outstanding thread and information. I'd give my left one for most any of the restored Willys you pictured throughout the thread. Thanks and Merry Christmas.
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Thanks! Have a fantastic Christmas!!

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Thank you so much for the post. It is an honor to my Dad, who couldn't serve in WWII even though he wanted to. He was the great generation, building pipelines and refineries during the war through out the Deep South, which helped to supply fuel for the war effort. My uncle went into the Navy, as did Granddad (WWI), but had to leave because of blind spots in his vision.

Some of the WWII times and technology are familiar to me because of Dad, even though I wasn't born until the 60s (I have a brother and sister, all in their 70s now), and because of Mom, who ran the blood bank somewhere in Philly during the war. It must have been one hell of a time to be alive. The adventures, the hardships, the fears. Lives were radically changed from the 30s through to the 50s because of the war. I could feel that history rubbing off them onto me, which is why I hung around adults, older ones because they had great stories to share compared to us kids who only showed up a few years prior. That was like a kid being a largely empty refrigerator (okay, a pie and a jug of margarita, I guess I need to run down to the store of Life for some Experiences) compared to one completely stocked, both fresh food and science experiments being conducted (what in hell is this? Something's moving here).

I guess I need to go to an reenactment to get a feel for things, see if I remember anything. I stood inside a submarine housed in east Oklahoma, and it seemed like memories came up, mainly sub materials, how they feel and handle to the users of such things. I don't know why, but they do. Is there any possible way that memories can be passed down through the body somehow? I don't know if Mom would have been allowed to tour a sub with my Uncle. Or she might have toured one, post-war. I guess this is why I feel a preference for old school. Thanks for bringing back an ancient connection.
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I forgot one other thing. Are these Jeeps mechanically old enough to not be affected by EMPs? Restore as many of these things as you can. We might need them.
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I am really not sure about EMPs... there doesn't seem to be a lot of information out there about "real life" answers to protect your vehicle. I seem to see the same information, but I don't know if it is accurate. The people who test this stuff for the military aren't really giving this information out, so I don't know. I would like to know myself. The biggest thing that goes around is EMPs will "fry your starter". If this is true, a starter isn't electronic so that would affect all starters. Now any transistor type set up is supposed to be fried immediately. WWII jeeps don't have such devices. Their most complicated device is a voltage regulator... and if I told you what it looks like on the inside, you would laugh. It is a series of "plates" for lack of a better word, which make contact with other "contacts" when "energized." It is contacts, springs and wires. That is it. Nothing to fry there.

As far as "experiences passing on to" children... I am originally from Louisiana and down there, we called it "Deja Vu." It was a recognition of something you have been through but couldn't "prove it"... I guess that is close. Remember, more goes on than Man knows OR WILL KNOW FOR MANY, MANY CENTURIES...

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More WWII Jeep Photos #22...

These photos show how the WWII jeeps were shipped overseas. Most of the jeeps were shipped in crates, as the first two photos show. They would then be assembled somewhere else in Europe. Most were done in England and after "D" day, and proper deep water harbors were made available, the jeeps were also assembled in France.

The next "set" of photos show how the jeeps were shipped by rail. It was quite an ingenious system which showed how sturdy the jeeps were and how simple pieces of wood, added in the right spot, kept it all together.

The last photo shows an assembly plant in the states with fresh L134 engines ready to receive their "flat heads" and their oil pans.
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More WWII Jeep Photos #23...

These photos are "soldiers living out of their jeeps."

The first photo shows Japanese Americans of the 442nd taking a moment to eat. This unit was one of the most decorated of WWII. They fought hard for their new country and let everyone know, they weren't impressed with the enslavement of Asia by the Emperor of Japan. How? By kicking the Nazis butts in Europe. They were true warriors and earned their place in AMERICAN history. Notice we were fighting Japanese and these guys signed up to fight the Japanese for America. It was decided it would be a problem so they fought the Germans. They proved themselves "worthy" to those who didn't believe in them by fighting the Emperor's buddies in Europe.

The second photo shows soldiers of the 10th Mountain Division eating. The 10th was a hard, hitting unit that gave the Germans hell in WWII. Today the 10th Mountain Division is still keeping the proud tradition earned during WWII of being hard hitting warriors who destroy the enemy no matter where they hide. Be it a village, town or mountain high. Hooah 10th Mountain!!!

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Hooah! Great pics! I've worked with members of the 10th mountain, great group of guys. Did you find these pics online or do you have a connection to them?
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The 10th Mountain Division...

When I was at Ft. Benning, some of the soldiers I was with were part of and going to the 10th. They were great guys and really had great pride in being part of the 10th. I also trusted them to watch my back.

As far as the photos, I found them online.

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WWII German "JEEP"...

A fellow jeep restorer sent me these photos from Germany. He is doing a "frame up restoration" on his YJ and he came across my rebuild thread. He sent these to me this morning.

These photos are of the WWII German Volkswagen Type 42 "Kubelwagen". This was the German equivalent of the WWII Jeep. It was only two wheel drive but having the engine in the rear gave it a lot of added traction as compared to having the engine in the front. (However, it didn't have anywhere near the traction our American Willy's had!) It was an air cooled engine and you could see how that was a great benefit in desert fighting with little water. These vehicles were mostly destroyed after WWII so the few that survived are extremely rare and expensive.

As you can see, these photos show a pristine example of a restored Kubelwagen. It is immaculate and you can see the simplicity of its design and function. Now don't misunderstand me... the WWII Jeep "ruled" in WWII. I have seen many photos from WWII with the German Army driving as many American Jeeps as they could get their hands on... I often thought that was flattery for our Jeep and its ability. The fact is our jeep could go many places these Kubelwagens only hoped to go.

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Old 01-11-2012, 06:51 PM   #44
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Wait a minute... Didn't VW sell civilian versions of these for the US Market? I have a friend whose family had one in the 70s-80s.

Edit: I found it - http://www.carlustblog.com/2008/09/the-thing.html
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WWII German "Amphibious JEEP"...

These are the last photos from a German Jeeper who is doing a fabulous job of restoring his YJ. This is the VW Type 166 "Schwimmwagen". It is the amphibious version of the Kubelwagen. You will notice in the photos how smooth and rounded the body is compared to the Kubelwagen. You will also note the rail going around the entire body of the vehicle. This was to protect the body of the vehicle while in the water, at the water level. In many photos I have seen, many soldiers attached their kit to these rails.

In the second photo, you will see the oar attached to the side and the funny looking attachment attached to the rear. That attachment is the propeller assembly. It is hinged in the "upright" position to be out of the way while driving on land. This unit would be unlocked and put down where it engaged the "PTO". It was then locked in the "down" position. Now the propeller would turn with the drivetrain. It propelled the vehicle about 3-5 mph in the water.

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Very neat photo's of the Vw's...I spied the US version of the amphibian Jeep at a local Military Vehicle collector show a while back...This is not my video though...kman

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Very very cool. Looks HEAVY. Thanks for sharing.
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These are the last photos from a German Jeeper who is doing a fabulous job of restoring his YJ. This is the VW Type 166 "Schwimmwagen". It is the amphibious version of the Kubelwagen. You will notice in the photos how smooth and rounded the body is compared to the Kubelwagen. You will also note the rail going around the entire body of the vehicle. This was to protect the body of the vehicle while in the water, at the water level. In many photos I have seen, many soldiers attached their kit to these rails.

In the second photo, you will see the oar attached to the side and the funny looking attachment attached to the rear. That attachment is the propeller assembly. It is hinged in the "upright" position to be out of the way while driving on land. This unit would be unlocked and put down where it engaged the "PTO". It was then locked in the "down" position. Now the propeller would turn with the drivetrain. It propelled the vehicle about 3-5 mph in the water.

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I've got a 58 cj3b I want to restore to look like military jeep but parts are getting hard to find.
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Parts are getting hard to find? I guess you better get busy with a CNC machine and collect manufacturing tools.
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I've got a 58 cj3b I want to restore to look like military jeep but parts are getting hard to find.
I know what you mean. I'm restoring a 2a and it's killing me replacing a lot of the good old American iron with Taiwanese tin. The problem I have is all the used parts I find are in worse shape than the ones I already have.
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I know what you mean. I'm restoring a 2a and it's killing me replacing a lot of the good old American iron with Taiwanese tin. The problem I have is all the used parts I find are in worse shape than the ones I already have.
Yeah, I've managed to get all new brakes. They were coated in some anti rust stuff. My very front body mount that rests on wood on the frame just below the toe board rotted
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WWII photos of the unusual and modified jeep...

A buddy of mine sent me some more photos of WWII jeeps. These jeeps are different...

The first photo is of a "typical" armored jeep found at Bastogne (The Battle of the Bulge). It features frontal and side armored plate. This "plate" was just a little thicker than heavy sheet metal and would not stop the 7.92mm round the German MG42 fired (This was the German equivalent to the American 30 calibre round the Garand fired.) But this plate would stop any submachine gun round and it was better than nothing.

The second photo shows the rear of a modified jeep. This jeep has a storage rack mounted in the back to give the jeep more storage capacity. You will notice it is mounted high so the jeep can still go up high angled inclines. As I understand it, the Jeep's original carburetor was good for running at 45˚ in any direction. A pretty impressive feat for that day.

The third and fifth photos are from Bastogne again. Here we have a double mounted bazooka. Pretty impressive firepower and creativity. Of course, contrary to what hollywood tells us, bazookas couldn't penetrate the Tiger tanks, nor the King Tigers that the Germans were using at Bastogne. (Thank God those bad boys ran out of gas!) The bazooka could penetrate a German Panther tank from the rear, but it had difficulty penetrating the sides of the armor. It was truly designed to take out the smaller Panzer tanks and fortifications. FYI the Army originally didn't even want the weapon. They thought it was too bulky. The inventor than showed the Army brass (on a testing range with non-explosive warheads) that he could hit a moving tank all the time. The brass than had a change of heart and went with it. It is a shame the bazooka didn't go through any "upgrades" during the war that would have allowed our soldiers to take on the Tiger tanks and the King Tigers.

The fourth photo shows a loaded and packed jeep. You will notice how these guys "pack for safari"... they are "loaded for bear". These guys were recon troops and they lived out of their jeeps. I always find these photos interesting because they are very similar to how people pack their jeeps today when they go on long trips in the wilderness. We may be some 67 years later, but "jeepers" are still "jeepers" and they pack for the long haul, whatever the mission..

I hope you guys liked the new photos!


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That's interesting , my first Jeep was a 1942 Ford Military. I was wondering about the '19' radio you said your friend had in your old Jeep. Was that a ANGRC 19 ?
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div4gold,

The next time I talk to my friend, I will ask him about the #19 set. Remember it was a British wireless set, not an American one.

Also, I was sent this photo from a jeeper in Germany. He sent a more intricate and detailed photo of the German Schwimwagen's water propulsion system. I thought you guys might like it. Remember this unit it "hinged up" and resting on the rear trunk/hood. When in use, it is "hinged down" and locked into the "PTO". Then it is "driven" off into the water. Its water speed was about 3-5mph. Not very fast but it worked.

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Yeah, I've managed to get all new brakes. They were coated in some anti rust stuff. My very front body mount that rests on wood on the frame just below the toe board rotted
Late respond, but I replaced my front rzeppa joints on both front axles. The box that the new ones came in was dated back to 45'. I honestly felt horrible just opening the box. The box was covered with a heavy wax and paper. Inside was another box with more wax and paper and the joints themselves were covered with the stuff. They really packaged them to last. When I got them all cleaned up they looks brand new.

This was the first time I also shed a tear opening a package. Lol
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The following photos are of WWII Jeep "Convoys" in a forest. These guys dress up in WWII uniforms and take their vehicles out to go "camping." They use all WWII gear and have a great time.

The first photo contains five WWII jeeps, both Ford and Willys and on the very end, there is one CJ2A. You will note the two "tow bars" on two of the jeeps.

The second photo (in the first column) shows two of the jeeps hooked up by "tow bar." When these guys cross a river, they hook up their tow bars and they go at it "in line." They just plow through. Usually the lead jeeps gets the worst of it, while the last jeep gets the next worst of it. But they all manage to get through, in line and together. All kicking butt.

The third photo (in the second column) shows the jeeps on the side of the road. It was "lunch time"...

The last photo is cruising down the trail. These guys really enjoy these "outings" and the vehicles are so quiet. It is amazing how quiet these "Flat Head" four cylinders are!!! They are super quiet. If you ever hear a noisy one, it is "out of tune" or there is an exhaust problem. When they are going slow in the field, you can barely hear them.

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With the push/tow bars on some of those Jeeps you could make a choo-choo train and go just about anywhere. Pretty neat set up , I haven't seen those before.
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Just a thought...

One of the things I truly loved about owning a WWII Jeep was it was "living history." It truly was. It was more than nostalgia. It was more than driving a curio. It was driving a piece of history. It was so fantastic driving an original jeep on the road or in the field. Sure, the current jeeps can go faster and carry more weight. Then can go over bigger obstacles, but there is a difference.

When I drove a WWII jeep, people turned their heads. They really looked. WWII veterans waved and at times, cried. That jeep brought back so many memories to the veterans AND their families. Their children would point and want us to stop... they just wanted to touch the jeep that their father talked so much about. There truly is something about those original jeeps.

Living history is bringing that jeep to a Veterans' Public Event and watching people swarm to the jeep just to see it. It has an American Iconic memory attached to it, more than anything else from WWII. The jeep is the symbol of what is good in America at a time America "saved the world" with its greatness!

I loved living history so much, almost 30 years ago, I began WWII reenacting. In this organization, men and women collect WWII uniforms, equipment and vehicles to put on "tacticals" and "public displays." These men and women "fight" with real weapons (that shoot "blanks") in the field. These battles are harmless but as close to fighting in WWII as you can get without being harmed. You experience what it was like in a "war game scenario" very similar to what our troops used today to prepare them for war. It can be very realistic, fun AND EYE OPENING! You start to realize how wrong Hollywood "has it" in many war movies. The hobby is more than collecting the gear, it is researching the period and "getting it right".

Many years ago, my father-in-law introduced me to a man who had converted his garage to a museum for the American Calvary. He had mannequines dressed in various US Calvary uniforms and equipment for different periods in their history. It was very nice and very elaborate. He had the mannequines in atmospheric controlled cases that really protected the original uniform and equipment. it was beautiful!

I commented on how nice it was and he commented on what he thought of "living history" and "WWII reenactment". He told me, "I really don't like it because you guys tear up the uniform by wearing it." Then I reminded him, "Doc, more people see my uniform and equipment in one event than will ever see your museum." You see, Doc, collected but no one saw his collection except on a personal invitation. When we did the many public events we supported, thousands (if not tens of thousands) of Americans saw our uniforms, equipment and vehicles. These people got to interact with us and ask us many questions about the uniform, gear and equipment AND VEHICLES. Each of us kind of became a little "museum curator" that you could interact with. It was a great service to the veterans and they kept inviting us back year after year. It really works well.

I have always loved jeeps. There is something special about them. I have always loved and respected out veterans, especially our WWII veterans. Driving that WWII jeep is living history.

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Old 06-04-2012, 03:32 PM   #59
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this thread is awesome. i'd love to find a GPW to restore someday.
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Great thread. I took 7 years to build my 1945 cj2a. I now use it as a daily driver and wheeler.


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